A7R III and the Expanding Sony Mirrorless line
Billy Newman Photo Podcast | A7R III AND THE EXPANDING SONY MIRRORLESS LINE
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Hey, what’s going on? Thank you very much for listening to this episode of The Billy Newman photo podcast. I’m here with Marina Hanson. today. How you doing Marina? Hey, I’m doing well. I think it’s pretty cool. We’re back in the studio again. Yeah, it’s cool. I love the new setup in here. I’m putting it together. And yeah, by the way, we put a little time into it and kind of set it up again. And I’m hoping that we do a bunch of it’ll be fun. Yeah, I’m really excited about it. It’s really cool. So Marina and I are photographers, we’re based in the northwest, we shoot a lot of landscape photos. And we try and put together a bunch of different creative projects when we can we do a lot with internet and content marketing and branding stuff. And we’re trying to put our hands in as many different places as we can right now. But before a while, we’re gonna try and do a bunch of podcasting stuff. I’ve been doing podcasting with you for a long time. And yeah, it’s gonna be fun to kind of get back into doing stuff here in the home studio. I’ll probably still do a bit in my truck. Do some little updates. It is Billy. So we’ll try and still do a few of those. But, but I think this is gonna be way better. It’s gonna be way cooler to kind of build it out a little bit. Yeah, I think it’d be really fun. To do your truck studio studio. Yeah, I’m trying to do more content overall. Yeah, I’m trying to put out more stuff I want. I want more video stuff. I want more audio stuff. I really want to push audio stuff like primarily that’s like, what I want to try and grow some skill in. Me too. Definitely. audio and video. I really want to grow a lot. Next year. Yeah, we’re gonna do a good job at that, too. I think I think we’re well set for it, too. You know, I think like we talked about before, in the past, like the first podcast, it was about 10 years ago now. Yeah, man, If only I’d been old to everybody. Gotcha. But yeah, it was the first podcast at Oregon State University on the the KB VR radio channel. And it was really bad. It’s such a silly podcast. It’s fun. It’s fun kind of doing that. 10 years later. Yeah, still seeing it grow and grow and grow. And I remember like, when I went into Tom, like, hey, I want to do a podcast here at Kp VI. And they’re like, what’s, what is that is I like a good idea. Or and like there should be they were really condescending about it. And then they told me like, I couldn’t say stuff. I was really strange. Like, I couldn’t read news on a podcast. I’m like, it was a copyrighted. Was there consideration, which is not true. Yeah. I don’t think it works like that. Yeah. Yeah. Like you hear people like just cite clips all the time. Yeah, I just reference it. Yeah, it was very, is a very silly school. But their, their thinking was that they didn’t have the rights to those copy written stories of news, which are just newsworthy, which means that report is always a goofy thing with those guys. They’re always like, had, at some some silly reason, Corvallis thinking, you know what I mean? I was like, Well, we’d rather just not do this. There’s always a lot of it. So yeah, 10 years ago, that was the fight of doing podcasting stuff. It was fine. I did like a bunch of those for a year and a half, I got some credits and stuff for him. That’s really cool. It’s clear. So on top of it, doing so much so soon after this photo podcast, I want to do, like a more more personal stuff. This one, I want to do more personal stuff about, like the photos that we’re working on and editing stuff, little projects that we’re doing the places we’ve been kind of like a journal about stuff that we’ve been doing. And I want to talk about, like the marketing stuff we’re working on, and just sort of like the changing projects that we go about with, yeah, it’s fine. And then but then I want to try and do some more podcasts, or I want to, you know, try to like break it out a little bit and do some other stuff about just about other things in the industry, which would be cool. We’ll talk about it more, probably another podcast in the future. But it’d be cool. So we’ve made like a big switch over the summer. And like I’ve been talking about on the podcasts over to like the Sony lineup, which has worked out I think pretty well for us. I think it’s been cool, like using the Sony camera systems for a couple months now.
Yeah, I’ve really liked it. It’s been cool having a completely different camera setup.
Yeah, see, we were working with Nikon for the longest time, like it was probably about 10 years ago, also that I bought my first Nikon camera. And that was like a D 40. Before that. I’ve used a couple others, but But yeah, that was the first DSLR system that I got to get into digital photography. And that was about 10 years ago. And so I was with Nikon kind of building a system and Nikon for a really long time, nearly that whole 10 year period. And it really didn’t didn’t blossom into a ton of stuff. So I thought yeah, I’m gonna sell all this. I’m gonna try and go with a different system for a little while. And I think the Sony stuff is paid out pretty well. There’s definitely some stuff that fits what we do in photography really nicely.
Absolutely. I think that yeah, I think that the Sony cameras are really really good for like outdoor landscape and all that adventure photography that People are saying to their seven two
Yeah, I love doing the the outdoor adventure tourism photography stuff and like the low light stuff
really the low light all of the nighttime photography options. It’s really amazing.
Yeah, there’s so many great options or just abilities that you can have with with high ISO sensors now, like on the Sony line, there’s just a lot you can do really cool stuff you can shoot stuff you can never done before like, like the whole like Chris Picard, documentary or film that he put out about. photographing like surfers in the auroras. Yeah, at night. Yeah, you just could never have captured up before. But it’s really one of the first times and it’s right on the cusp of at that point in history, where we have sensors that are that are capable of capturing that kind of low light stuff in real time, by capturing that many frames to get video at night like that, but also captured those real colors. So it’s cool to get stuff that’s kind of close to the human eye can do.
Yeah, it’s really cool. It’s It’s really amazing shooting with it and seeing that, really, yeah, like you just said, it’s, it’s capturing really just what you are able to see. Yeah.
Yeah, it’s a really fun part about it. And then that’s also what’s so cool about being like our age, and being photographers is we’re gonna get to kind of grow into some of this technology is it’s really starting to mature over the next decade and two decades, it’s really going to advance a lot where we get into way more capable sensors. I mean, you know, now we’re just getting to this point where we think like, oh, wow, that’s starting to look like what an AI can do. Like, imagine 10 years now into the future where we get wide dynamic range photos, or, you know, like things that have like, like, just way more capabilities way more information than the files we get. Now we get like 3d maps that are like 360 degree, you know, we’re gonna have like, we’re gonna be shooting holograms someday. Yeah, no kidding. Really cool. If it happens, I don’t know. But it’s fine. Now. Yeah, working with the Sony stuff, and kind of transitioning into something that’s a bit more of a modern camera system for like a long time in the last couple years. We shoot with a Nikon d3 system, and which was great. And that was kind of the first, the first time that we were working with full frame cameras. Right, which was a big upgrades. I mean, I said the film work that we did for a long time. Yeah, working with full frame digital was was a big upgrade. And then now working with with video, which is a silly thing to talk about. Sounds like 2009. But I’m really excited. Yeah, having a DSLR are now not a DSLR. Since it’s not single lens reflex. These mirrorless ones are interchangeable lens cameras,
right. I saw that it was written as that in smiles that I read.
Yes. And interchangeable. Camera. Yeah. It’s kind of strange. But But yeah, I’d like to have a shoot with it and kind of change and
yeah, it’s really cool. Because it’s kind of our camera set up before it was like you said it was the the d3 the Nikon d3. Yeah, but that doesn’t do video. Nobody does our full frame camera. And then the camera that we had for video stuff was my Nikon D 7000. Yeah, full frame.
Yeah, the crop sensor, but it was cool, though. like working with it and try it
was great. I loved that camera. We do a lot of really wonderful video with it. Yeah, but it’s so cool. Having a full frame camera that does really nice video. Really amazing. Well live video.
Yeah, it really does a lie. You know, I know that. A seven S is like the the monolith that’s supposed to be like the hot one for video. Right? Yeah, I think it has like a, I think it has a different kind of sensor. And it’s like a way lower megapixel sensor. And I think it’s supposed to be able to capture some kind of higher quality file type. Like I think it’s s log sweater here before. It’s you know how we were shooting like the AVC HD. mp4 is I think there’s this other one called s log, it’s sort of like it’s closer to a raw file, or it’s supposed to be closer to like a higher end file that you would get out of a Cinema Camera. So you know, something like that is I think a little close to what it is. But yeah, these these cameras do like a great job at shooting video. It’s been really cool to get used to that. And man like compared to what you could do years ago. It’s it’s astounding what you can do. It’s awesome. So it’s been cool switching over. But the thing is, is like we have an a seven our I think this is modern technology in 2014. That sounds right, maybe it was 13. But I think yeah, it was like 2014 that this one had popped out. And it’s a fantastic camera. I really appreciate it. I mean, we were living here at that time. It doesn’t seem like it’s that far in the past. But there’s been a lot of advancement even since then, and especially from Sony as an equipment manufacturer for cameras. And I think you were doing some research about that and you pulled up some some great notes about like the a seminar three release that was just announced. Right? That’s pretty cool. We had like the a nine announced I think earlier this year, which is also really interesting camera option like it’s the higher the more fully professional version of a Sony interchangeable lens camera. Yeah, I think that’s what it’s supposed to be but there’s a lot of interesting stuff about the a seven oh Three now that that could be pretty cool. I think there’s a new battery type Yeah. higher capacity battery system now.
Yeah which is great news because those batteries suck it’s really that’s what I don’t like about this cameras
yeah for as much as screen time as it uses with you so much battery yeah for the types of files that is writing to disk I mean if you if you ask like your laptop to transfer 40 gigabytes of you know like when we shot one of those weddings and we burn through a battery it’s like well we did right 32 gigabytes to a card pretty constant. yeah pretty cool. Yeah, we wrote video like Cosmos I guess it must take like some amount of electrons to want to run that to charge it. So it’s amazing that it can do it but it’s it’s it’s really awesome and necessary that the a seminar three gets the upgrade of having a more stable battery system. And that’s really been one of the downsides of the Sony system for a long time. The other upgrade that they’ve been talking about was improved autofocus systems like it was a faster autofocus it really I don’t know anything about it, though. But I’ve been upset with the the autofocus system so far. On on the a seminar. I think a lot of people have complained about that. It’s one of those weird things where I think it has like a gajillion autofocus points, but just they’re not like fast. You know what I mean? It’s like, it’s just, it’s like it has them but they don’t like operate.
Yeah, they don’t respond the way that they’re supposed to all the time.
It doesn’t seem like it. I mean, I suppose it was supposed to be kind of a slower auto focusing camera. I don’t really know what changes the the dynamics of what makes like faster, slower, but man. Yeah, it was definitely behind some of the competition on Canon or Nikon of like just being in focus. Yeah. Maybe that’s an issue that we have with our camera. It could it could very well be more more prevalent with this one. But I noticed like with, with the a seven two that we had for a while. That that seemed like poor focus a little faster. Yeah, it seemed like work a little bit sharper.
It seemed like the second model. I bet that a seven or two is probably Yeah, really Similarly, a little bit quicker at it.
I know that it was supposed to have a new autofocus system in it. It was like a 500 point. autofocus system that was supposed to be just kind of a crossover is supposed to be a lot better. So guess what? I don’t know what it was supposed to be really. But now this one’s supposed to be better than that
one. That’s what I heard. I heard it was supposed to be pretty comparable to the a nine. I think
that’s great. I mean, yeah. It’s decent or acceptable. And it’s really cool that it’s coming out soon. I think we’re probably likely to hear announcement of an a seven or Yeah, an a seven s three and a seven s three instead of an a seven or three. Yeah, we’re I think we’re gonna see like an upgrade to that one. Also sometime in this next year. And maybe an a seven three as that goes to you know, things upgraded. Yeah. Yeah, maybe an upgraded sensor, or, or upgraded sensor options or something. But, but it seems like maybe they’re on track to do something like that in the next year. I think they kind of space their announcements a little bit.
Yeah, they’re quick with it, or they they have a lot of announcements, this seems like are just like through the last few years, it seems like so many things have been updated. Oh, totally. I totally agree, like quicker than quicker than canon comes out with things quicker than Nikon comes out with it. It seems like
it seems like it’s going pretty fast, though. I do remember like 2000 by 2001 234 and five, man, it really exploded during that time. Like the like it was just boom, boom, boom, a camera like every six months. So it seemed like, you know, to get to get that many iterations out that quickly. It was like cuz they were just populating the whole the whole market channel for the first time with digital cameras. So they just had to had to make the professional one an immediate one, the beginner one, all at the same time for the first time. And then again, like a year later, so it was just like, like every couple of weeks. new cameras coming out. Yeah. Yeah. Like, I mean, if you imagine like, how much how much changed, it was between 2000 in 2007 or so that was a huge growth, you know, and in camera stuff during that time. It was crazy how that was and now like, we’re kind of thinking like 2010 to 2017 let’s say Sony’s definitely come a long way. I think in 2010 they were working on like the early any x mirrorless systems, those cropped up sensors. Yeah. And, and that was kind of the predecessor to the a 6008 6500 you know, whatever they have right now. That’s out but but yeah, it was interesting. They’ve kind of progressed so much. And then and then really built out the, the interchangeable or the mirrorless systems, because for a long time in the 2000s. They had sort of a mid range, Sony line that was built by Mumia Or not me, me, me. Some other some other camera manufacturer Minolta um, and also, okay Minolta made Sony DSLR is I think in the 2000s the other a series like the one that we gave our friends like that was, I think a camera that was sort of constructed by Minolta as a manufacturer, but it was sold as a Sony system and sold with Sony branded glass and it was and he was looking for a camera system. But I think that these are these are now like more in house Sony systems and they’re much, much better. You know, like, That’s why, like Sony DSLR was never really something you heard back about 10 years ago. And then now like the next point that you’d brought up, is that Sony is overtaken Nikon as the second company in the US for for full frame, interchangeable lens camera sales. Yeah, really interesting. I heard another thing. There’s a photo out of some photo convention over in New York. And there was there’s like, you know, two big booths it was it was traditionally canon in a big booth and then Nikon and a big booth this year. Not Nikon. It’s Sony. Yeah, yeah. So he’s taken over in that spot. And he’s announced in a seminar three, I think Nikon that just had an announcement, you know, they’re out that they’re at the place with a different booth or somewhere else or something. So it’s interesting to kind of see that that change over from so many people sort of moving away from Nikon stuff and moving into some of this interesting Sony equipment it’s becoming,
it’s really interesting. I really noticed it, I think, to just when we were selling off our Nikon stuff, oh dang exciting stuff. We saw a lot of a lot of other people seemed to be doing the same thing.
Oh, yeah. Yeah, definitely seem like that. When I was cruise through kth. It really seems like Sony. cameras, camera bodies are really hard to be found. Yeah, they’re pretty, pretty hard to come by. So there’s definitely Yeah, yeah. It’s it’s interesting to see kind of how that that that shift is happening. And it’s,
it’s really interesting. I see a lot of people using the like, the a 6000. Yeah. Also like the not quite professional ones. I see a lot of people using Sony cameras.
I think that was what a lot of selling cameras of the year that it was produced.
36,000 Yeah, I think that’s one of the I believe it. That’s a really good camera. First cheapest that is Yeah, that’s a great camera.
Yeah, yeah, definitely is one of the one of the best cameras that you can get started with, I think. Yeah. And with a lot of the things that it does, and perhaps simply it really gets it done. I’ve been working with easy’s, yeah, I’ve been working with an A 6000 for a few months now, just as a production camera for work. works great. It’s just the base kit. It’s really simple. It was way cheaper than like the 15 $100.70 mark two system that we were working with. And that was just body only this was like, you know, lens and flash and we were half the price or something. So for a production system like this. Yeah, I just it just fit in just perfectly. It was fine. It was both crop sensor, you know, nothing different about. So yeah, it’s been really interesting to kind of see see some of the interesting stuff that Sony is doing. But what Well, I don’t know what I thought was cool about some of the Sony transition stuff. I heat is coming on
here that at least.
Yeah, it’s a fun old house with a boiler in the basement. And then as the heaters Come on, it sounds like people are sledge hammering the pipes and the walls, maybe look up maybe the pop, the sound filter, or the the noise gate that we’ve got. But yeah, with some of the Sony stuff, it’s been cool transitioning kind of being part of the the wave of stuff that we’re learning about and being able to kind of dip into some of the low light stuff that we can do some of the video stuff that we can do. I’ve liked it so much. No, it’s been it’s been really useful. I’ve learned a lot just by doing that, you know, like before that we were really invested in film equipment. And and that was a really cool workflow. Like for the last couple years, we’ve been doing 35 millimeter film processing stuff, or you know, we’d have a process and do digital adjustments to it and then like, scan it and show it and stuff. And that’s been great. I really dug the style that we got out of that. And I want to dip back into that a little bit with like the nav. Yeah. But for like professional, like commercial activity and work and stuff. I think it’s great, like moving into the Sony stuff, and I really want to invest in some class with you, man, me too. Yeah, we got to do more glass. Yeah, we need a few more lenses. Definitely we are we’re pretty slow on it right now but but we got to figure out some nice stuff. I really want to try and pull in some nice stuff for for wedding season this year. Oh man. Yeah, we really need it. Yeah, I really want to try and figure out some stuff for for like the summer, spring and summer wedding season. When we get closer to that we got to get like something to a sum to eight zoom. Yeah, nice one we need like a top end. We One top end lens, Rena? I mean, yes, we got to be fair. It takes a lot. So I’ve been working on a few photos, putting out a couple. And it’s been going okay. I don’t know I’d last week I tried to put out a bunch of stuff, which was, which was good. It’s cool. I’ve been trying to go through like a bunch of the photographs that we had. There were leftover from our September trip. Hey, yeah. And I had a blast going on, like a big, big trip around Eastern Oregon, and then back up to Eugene. And we got a bunch of photos from it. But I haven’t really been able to cut through most of them. Since we’ve gotten back.
You know, it’s really been true for me to Yeah, I’ve been busy. I’ve been editing other work photos, like wedding photos since I got back from that trip. So I know you’ve been working. It’s really in this last couple of weeks. But I’ve finally barely lately started getting into that editing.
I’m trying to do it when I’m at work. And yeah, pull up the files. And I go through and I’ll edit a couple and I’ll probably try to edit a couple that’ll try and post. And that’s a good way to go through it. I’m just kind of chipping at it. A little bit at a time. But it’s been pretty, pretty useful so far. But yeah, I think the first one was that I put up today, I put up an older photo. As a Facebook ad. I think I’ll talk about that in a minute was the other one that I put up? I don’t even remember. I think I put a picture. Oh, I put up the picture of the alvord at sunrise that we were talking about and I think we put up the other day on the Facebook page. Hey, that was a cool one. I liked our Yeah, I like this photo. But we after the Billy Newman photo podcast cover out in the alvord at sunrise, the cool day, like hanging out, or we did a bunch of stuff on the onboard morning but it was so much colder this time. Yeah, it was different. It was only like a week later in the year than the you know. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I know that was early September and then a mid September is really almost a different season. But, man Yeah, it was a bit cold that day. We had like a bunch of I think it was the day we left there was a lot of clouds up in the air. Up in the higher elevations. You can see like a lot of texture in the clouds. And then you saw that dust storm kind of Yeah. Yeah, the center there. It is cool. It’s really cool. Yeah, it’s strange how, how big it is out there. You know, you look out and there’s this big wall of despo on a grass. But you don’t realize that that’s just like miles away from you. And it goes on for miles and dust inside of that, but it’s just not where you are. And it’s so flat. You just see up to that. That change and whether that’s up there. It was really weird seeing that.
It was weird. Yeah, it was interesting driving around it. And seeing Yeah, cuz you’re because your perception of like, where it is and how, what the size of it actually, is really it’s difficult. Totally. Yeah.
Yeah. I thought it was just a weird thing. You think it’s closer than it is? Yeah. It’s very strange. Yeah. That’s cool, though. It’s cool driving up to it. And you’re just like, wow, this is like a whole big, foggy, thick weather system. You know, it’s very strange. It’s just really weird and kind of surreal to like, see it. But it was cool out there to to spot that. Yeah. It
was interesting being out there a second time.
Oh, yeah. I dug it. I thought it was cool. We went to the fields store. Oh, yeah. So last time, we were out there was 2014. And then, and then there was you know, 2015, and then 2016. And now in 2017. We went back, we went out to fields. And you can get like a milkshake and get a burger out there and get gas out there. I think you can get like a little motel stay out there if you want to. And it’s kind of near the border by Nevada before you get into the night. And it’s the nearest thing to get any resources outside of the airport. And it was cool. When we went down there. I think we looked at the there’s this sort of post that they have for the years past and it shows like how many burgers they sold. And then and then like how many milkshakes they sold. And like, I think it was the 2013 it was like 5230, something like that. It was kind of close to for the years before that. And 2014 it was about that. Their year that we went and then the year after we went It was like 6200 it was like 1000 people jump or something. Yeah. And then it was like 6500 the next year. So you’re like, wow, I bumped up like so much. There’s a 20% increase in traffic through the alvord area just since the time that we started coming here. Yeah, I really didn’t see that jump in the in the period before.
No, no, it was really consistently like about that same number.
Yeah, yeah, it was like the 4000s or something like that. So hamburger sales. That’s my metric to the traffic through the outboard area. But it was interesting. It was really interesting. Cool. I was kind of surprised. Now think about it. I want a milkshake. And I want a cheeseburger. That sounds good matter I think we might read this podcast set. by a few. I think we’ll do that. But, but really there really needs to be a milkshake. It was fun though, going out there to fields. Yeah, seeing that, but seeing kind of the influence of how much how many people are out there in the alvord. Now, yeah, it seemed like there are way more campers out there. Oh my gosh, just kind of doing different projects and different kinds of things. Lots of photo projects. Yeah, that was so interesting to see. I was surprised to see that. Yeah. A couple models with little people assisting a little bounce cards and stuff, trying to throw some light onto him a little breezy.
pieces of fabric.
Yeah. Yeah, it was cool. Seeing like a few other people set up out there for photoshoots. Yeah,
yeah. And a bunch of campers kind of put out, you know, on the on the farther perimeter. It seemed like there’s a lot of people that were kind of posted up out there. It didn’t seem like there was any particularly big event or something going on. Just know, I think that it’s just more well traveled. Yeah. So our Instagram posts, we gotta say, I’m telling ya. Yeah, it was fun. It was so cool going out there the first time she was. Yeah, it was a blast. But it was kind of fun spotting that stuff and going out there second. That was really cool. We spent a couple days out there in the truck and attempt but yeah, windier cold air much when you’re Oh
my gosh. I yelled up the sand during the day. There was no way to avoid it. Yeah, I just had a lot of
little ply this stuff. Yeah, it was weird. Yeah. Just comes in up on the sleeping bags and stuff just kind of blown about. Yeah, it’s a really weird thing. How it comes together.
I must be what Burning Man is closer to the first time we were in the airport. It was not as windy. Why? We were dusty. Definitely. But our stuff was much easier for me to clean.
Yeah. Before I remember that. Yeah, it was it was definitely easier. Way difficult. It was frustrating. But it was.
It was cool. Seeing a different kind of water system kind of moving through there having to be more stormy. I did like that. Yeah. Heavier cloud. Yeah. I missed out on having a couple of good sunsets. I missed that. I was disappointed with a couple of the nights because there wasn’t a sunset. It was sort of strange almost disappeared with behind the cloud, which was behind the mountain.
Yeah. Yeah. It just went to just gray to gray right away. Yeah, but there wasn’t any color in the sky was really strange. I was
thinking that yeah, it was partly cloudy. I thought it was broken up enough that we get a couple of good sunsets or, you know, some some good textures as it was fading off. But yeah, we really missed most of it. And yeah, just definitely dropped to gray and blue pretty fast and wasn’t really quite what I was looking for. But some of the textures on that last day, they were kind of interesting, listening a little bit more stormy. And it was cool on that drive out. I think I had a couple of those posts. This last week on that day that we drove out on highway 78 to go to crane and then up into burns. And I think we’ve pulled over a couple times, I took a couple photos. But those are some others that I put up on Instagram, I pretty recently, I’ve been trying to do a bunch on Instagram, I’ve been trying to do a bunch of like, reaching out and direct messaging stuff. I’ve been trying to do like a little bit more networking stuff overall, too, which has been working a bit and I’ve been trying to work on my story to like the Instagram story. I think you’ve been noticing a little bit like I put up each of the posts that I put up in the day, I try and copy those in Instagram, and then and then post them over into the story also. And then I’ve also been messing around with adding like your location to your story and hashtag, which is something you can pull out from the filters, if you swipe up on the on the thing when you’re making it. And you can add a couple of things. But that like puts it into a location it tags it there. And I think if you do a search for stories, like there’s one that was put in, like Eugene, and there’s like a bunch of people that that hit it throughout the day, just because it was tagged with a location. So I’m going to try and do that more with that some of the location stuff and use that a little bit more interestingly, to try and get people to see some of those posts. That’s really cool.
I don’t know, that was a feature I have, I need to get into the Instagram story stuff.
There’s a lot you can think of Yeah, yeah, I don’t really understand it well enough, either. But there’s a good bit of traction suddenly, like how Snapchat, you know, you just kind of like keep watching the video keeps moving. It’s really visual. So I like a lot of that stuff. And you really get into see what people are doing in sort of a really late way, like what snapshots use for now. And really what Snapchat was or part of what Instagram was, like years ago back in 2010 2011. When I first got on. It was it was really like a lightweight thing where you just take take a picture of anything was sort of you take take a picture of your food, take a picture of a drink, take a picture, just some silly place that you’re at sort of thing, but it wasn’t really any kind of highfalutin level of professionalism or edited posts that would go up. There was just you know, a square only right? Yeah, there’s only the really rough filters that you could apply from your cell phone photos. So yeah, I remember I remember those days Instagram too. And it’s weird to kind of see how it’s progressed a little bit. But similarly, like the stories are a really lightweight way of just kind of showing anything that you’re doing or kind of expressing, like the the moments of your life, like Snapchat, everybody’s kind of familiar, I guess, with the, the language of Snapchat nowadays. But it’s cool. There’s a lot of distribution on the Instagram stories. Like there’s, there’s a good bit of people that it shows do see a lot of the the content that you put up there. So that’s kind of fun to be messing around with. And yeah, I’m trying to like, take those little like snapshots. Yeah, like screenshots on my phone of the Instagram app showing like the the photo that I’m featuring on that day. And then I throw that in there in the location and a hash tag or something with it. And that’s been a cool way to kind of test some stuff out. And, yeah, I’m trying to mess around with that. But try to keep that for I think they kind of heard from marketing stuff that like you want to try and put in about six a day. Which seems like a lot. Yeah, it’s like a lot of stuff. But yeah, like every couple hours, you’re trying to get like some one or two second thing up. And that’s why I try and like kind of punch it up with a few of the photo posts or screenshots. So that those are like remarketed. And if I do like a podcast or something like that, I try to put up some kind of notifier in there. And then like a couple of posts to the photos and working on that day, the camera I’m using or something like that. We should do something of podcast here. Yeah, it would be cool. But yeah, really? Thanks for sure. Do it like a bunch of more podcasting stuff. I’m so happy to be doing it. Yeah, I really like being project smart audio stuff is really cool. Audio is going to explode in the next year or two. Yeah, you really write about it, it’s totally going to be like, the thing of the future. old radio is gonna be the new future. So I think it was like really, the thing that’s gonna be like taking off. And it’s what I’ve been thinking about for years, or, you know, they’re like audio podcasting. So it was cool. Yeah, you really been on top of it a little bit. I need to be doing more stuff with it. You know, radio is a weird thing like radio and like, a college alias. That’s really weird. Getting into podcasting is sort of a strange thing at the beginning, but just like getting in and doing it, you know, it feels like a strange thing. I don’t know if it’s felt like that for you a little bit.
It is really difficult to adjust to. You’re a really good speaker. To begin with, I’d say and I’m not doing very, very well. Thank you. I appreciate you doing. Thanks for doing it with me for a few years now. I should be a little bit better.
A lot better. And I remember like a couple of my first ones It was like it’s like a muscle that you build. I’ve heard other people talk about it that way. But speaking in a mic. You got to do like 100 hours. And then it’s like, you’re still bad. But you can kind of do it a little. It’s a weird thing. Yeah, I don’t know. But that’s what I want to try. So I’m still under 100 hours. Right. So you’re doing all this little short podcast? Yeah.
I think it’s gonna be great. I think it’s gonna be cool. doing the show every night.
No, it’ll be it’ll be great practice for us. And in 24 months, if we kind of keep doing podcast stuff, like we want to. Yeah, yeah, that’s really gonna develop into something that we’re proud of. Yeah. But yeah, I think we started doing this billion one photo when like in 2015. That’s when I first started setting up some microphones and like this laptop is an audio podcasting thing. So it’s cool to have it go through a couple different iterations and sort of develop that and get to use the studio more and get to develop it more. I think it’s gonna be cool. Put up more stuff and using like this, on our website, on iTunes, and on YouTube,
on Facebook. Everywhere. Yeah, I think it’s really cool. Thanks for being my producer. Yeah. Thanks
for training me to be a podcast producer. I’m so excited. Oh, yeah. I want to get into some sound clips with you later.
Oh, yeah. Let’s cut in. That’d be a cool idea. We should go fine with that. This week. We should try to find some cool sound stuff and try and settle on some stuff. Yeah. Next week this week. Pick some sounds ferocious. Ooh. Yeah. We got to get fresh sounds. I want to do more. Yeah, that’s what I’m talking about. I’m gonna do just a little bit about you. Just a little production.
Yeah. I’m so excited about it. I really, I needed sleep. I like that part.
Oh, yeah. No, I do. I love it. Yeah, I like it. All the other podcasts that we hear with production elements that come in that, you know, that makes, it’s great. I dig it. So it’ll be fun for us to kind of do some of the same stuff with it.
I think.
Along with all the content that I’ve been putting up, like on Instagram, like the content that I’m putting up, we’ve been just starting to mess around with boosting posts. I was working with Facebook, and the Facebook page system and the advertising system. I think I’ve been learning a lot from that just in the last two weeks or so. Yeah,
I think it’s so cool and valuable that you’ve been getting into that.
Oh, yeah. I think it’s definitely super valuable. And it seems like it’s really effective. It’s really effective like for the day and date for the age that it is right now for the attention that Facebook has like for the population that Facebook has, using it constantly Twitter, Twitter, is not the deal. Facebook is, Facebook is great, every Grandma, every dad, everybody hits Facebook one time a day or a couple of times a day, really the data shows a lot of times. And so there’s just so many opportunities for an impression of your ad to be seen, or for your content to get promoted to the right audience. And there’s so many abilities for you to target people with the data that Facebook has. So you can really get down and find audiences that you couldn’t have before. Even just friends or friends, so everything, that’s a great audience for me to start with. But just being able to like put your put your stuff in there and get your content promoted to your entire audience. That’s a new thing. Or not? Well, it’s a new thing for me, I suppose. But it’s an because Facebook once allowed you to promote that much content to your entire social feed, you used to get a lot of engagement. But now because of the algorithm, it kind of tailors unpaid content back a lot, right? In the fee, if it’s not being shared a ton if it’s not super interesting. And then now to get it to get it higher ranked in the feed, then you know, you pay this $5 amount, and you get you know, a value that for your impressions that you buy. That’s cool. It’s a good advertising system for boosted posts. And there’s there’s other stuff that I’m not really sure about that I want to try and talk to more people about to put some of those pieces together, of trying to understand some of the ideas around working like an advertising campaign. So there’s boosting post, which is the content that you would you would post regularly into your feed, I’m trying to do that with like, like portfolio level photographs that we have. Or just other other fun photo content that we can put up like, the most successful one so far was one of the first ones I did have a cabin in the woods up in the wallowa Mountains, beautiful spot, beautiful little kabaneri up next to a really cool kind of Alpine looking mountain. And so I get why it was kind of an attractive photo to be advertised. But it was interesting. Yeah, like how effective it was, it was cool to kind of see how much of an audience it could get to if it was promoted a little bit. And it’s interesting, too, if you put a good bit of money behind even a single post that really delivers it to a really large audience. And if that audience like appreciates what you’re doing, like you do get a drawback of people interacting with the content or people liking your page. And all of that kind of eventually turns into the value of a larger brand, or a larger network. And there is like a lot of value in that that I think we can build. Maybe over the next 24 or 36 months. Yeah, well, it’s still good, it’s still gonna be a good deal. You know, like Google AdWords. Now, it’s not really as good as it was back in like 2002 1000, we should we should do Google AdWords. But like, 2017, we should try to do a bunch in these Facebook advertisements, Facebook boosted posts. I’m really excited for it. I think it’s a good way that we can build a cool part of our content, media photo business.
Yeah, I love it. I think it’s so cool. Being able to, because this is something we talked about being the challenge of being able to actually find an audience. Yeah. And it’s really cool being able to actually reach more people who would want to see our stuff.
Yeah, there’s, there’s some math to do on it. But like paying for distribution is really worth it. Like, absolutely, it is cheaper. If you think about it for time, like say it would take 10 years to build an audience, that would be an equivalent size that you can make some money on. But like you would make a lot more money if you made that audience in two years, and then work that audience for eight years. That makes sense. It’s like some kind of like compound math of how big something, I don’t really understand it. But maybe that’s a salesman talking about. But it seems like it seems like the benefit of it would be now like working faster now. And I’m really excited for I think it’s cool. I’ve been trying out like a couple different ads and different promoter pieces and stuff. And it’s kind of interesting figuring out, like, what works better, where to target stuff. And I got to figure out more stuff about that. But it’s definitely something just to research. I wish I knew more about it intuitive, or you know, just like from the start, but there’s definitely some stuff that we should try. I wish I could afford it is really the thing I want to try and put you know, like $50 $100 behind, like each of these more impressive posts are more than the things that seem to like, catch on better with people. Sure. Yeah. And I want to try like put like a bunch behind it and then try and like get a better market demographic selected so that new people get to see some of this work, or see some of these photographs. And then, you know, like, come on, or, you know, join or communicate. And then I also want to do some stuff like when we transition into selling more photo packages to like, generating leads with Facebook advertisements are generating like contacts. There’s an option to like, have people like schedule a meeting with you, Oh, right. All sorts of things, of calls to actions that you can you can use in in some of these advertisement systems. So there’s a lot of things that you could pay for that you can probably really generate some business with, which is a cool thing. Yeah, I think it’s really interesting to be getting into more. Yeah. It’s interesting to get into it for sure. And it’s fun, like as a photographer is people trying to do media stuff, just the the new opportunities to just kind of some of the things you learn about, as well.
Yeah, I think it’s really cool. It’s paying Facebook. But it’s cool. I think, you know, getting average. It’s like it’s real. Yeah. Yeah. No, because it is Israel. I love that it works. Yeah, we got to buy some marketing stuff. And that’s been coming together. I think it’s been really cool.
That’s cool. So you’re, you’ve been doing the Facebook ads, and you’ve also checked out the Instagram ads. But
I’ve been trying more Instagram ads. And it’s interesting with the Instagram ads, like I ran promotions, it’s interesting how it’s set up, because Facebook owns Instagram, something that’s connected, I’ve been trying to do a bunch from the phone. The phone’s been great, and just trying to like develop more, more systems for that and how it worked. But you can do promotions just from Instagram, which works pretty well, if you’d like to do that. I think they started at $3. And it’s probably like a $5. CPM, I think it’s a cost per 1000, which is pretty similar to how it is on Facebook. But what I’ve been doing is using like the Facebook pages app, and the the Facebook ads app that you can get for your iPhone. Yeah. And I’ve been trying to like manage the advertisements from those two apps. For both Facebook and Instagram, there’s, there’s an option where you can like simultaneously run this ad on Instagram, that you have just from just from your Facebook ads program. Yeah. And so when you’re creating an ad for your Facebook page, you can click just slide this lever over, it says, simultaneously run this ad on Instagram, and I think you know, kind of picks the market and you know, sends it out. And it seems like it’s a pretty effective way to do it. If Instagrams information about the demographics of the person that correct. What I’ve noticed sometimes is that you put some money into it, and it doesn’t really seem quite as effective on Instagram, given the amount of attention that’s on Instagram. So there’s probably some tricks around advertising on Instagram. I think maybe it’s like a little bit more. I don’t know, I just don’t really have the keys to it. But it seems like just because they were separate social networks. It seems like Instagram maybe doesn’t know as much about a person. Like how old they are? Or like should they see the ad that I’m promoting to them? Yeah, seems like it gets a little a little wishy washy. Sometimes Facebook is really tight. And what that means is that your cost per impression is lower. So it’s more effective for your money, I think, is I think a little bit of what I’ve been understanding, but I’m not really sure I’m just kind of experimented twice. So I’ve tried to figure out some stuff around it. But it’s been really cool kind of getting closer to understanding. I don’t know, internet advertising. Yeah, I think it’s fantastic. Yeah, yeah, it’s gonna be 2020. See, and I gotta figure out something. So we’re gonna live in Lightroom stuff, I’m gonna try to like develop a lot of photos, like with the travel stuff that we did the trip and like the trip that I did with my dad out to Christmas Valley, and some of the stuff around like the teepee rings that I was photographing. We’re trying to like edit a few of those. And I’ve been doing like most of that in Lightroom. But I’ve been trying like a couple different other pieces of software. I haven’t really gotten super far with it. So we got to do more research, this will be an ongoing segment for our podcast, which will be fun, too, we should try out some betas I don’t know where we can really get a hold up. But there’s Lightroom. And see, like, there’s some news about how like Lightroom is switched over to the Lightroom Creative Cloud, which is going to be sort of a cloud based photo editing system, I think it’s going to be a little bit more lightweight, I think it’s going to be a monthly subscription system. And then there’s also going to be Lightroom classic, which is going to be the current Creative Cloud, professional Lightroom system. And I think that’s going to be like your disk management system, like how to put files onto your computer hard drive and how to edit them, and then how to like process them out and put them somewhere. So that’s still going to be around and I guess going on, but it’s only going to be subscription system from now on. I think that’s kind of pushed a lot of people including myself to consider like what other editing options are going to be out there for for like file management systems for your photographs. And there’s a few new other systems that are coming out, but also seem a little bit more modern, in some ways, too. But I think it’d been kind of interesting, and it’s been cool. checking them out a little bit. One of them was Capture One. And you and I had looked at that one a little bit. Yeah, you showed me that one a little bit when you put on your computer.
It’s cool. I want to learn a little bit more about it. I know there’s a lot of content out there about it. There’s the phase, the phase one camera system. Have you heard it’s a little bit medium format, digital camera system. It’s real expensive, real nice, apparently. I only know like a little bit about it. But those raw files are really immense medium format, digital RAW files. And so the processes they kind of constructed their own editing software. That was this Capture One software and I think it was supposed to be a more modern system of rendering your raw file justments and Anything is supposed to be kind of tuned specifically to the raw files produced by, by this phase one camera, which is an interesting piece of software. You know, it’s really technical. And I see like a lot of professional photographers kind of shifting over to it, but at least I see I see it popping up a little bit more in sort of higher end fashion system or like people that are using phase one systems or a lot of Sony systems, there’s because I think it’s so specific to the Camera RAW file that’s produced. It’s sort of strange, right? Like the, I think it’s built for the phase one. Camera. Right. And like for a lot of other file types, yeah, for those file types, and for a lot of the Sony file types. So I think a lot of like the Sony photographers are getting the Capture One Pro software. And they make like a free Sony editing software, that’s a little bit stripped down. It’s like the, you know, the Sony Capture One express or something like that, who knows what it is, but I pulled that on my computer, I’ve been messing with it and I pulled like a demo for for Capture One Pro. And it was cool kind of messing around with a different raw editor. It’s different than Photoshop different than Lightroom. But it’s, it’s still kind of like the same like panel and slider idea. You have a panel you have like hue and color and sharpness and haze, and whatever. And you can kind of make some adjustments on it. But it was interesting, do something different with the raw processing. And I guess it’s supposed to be faster. So the idea are supposed to be a more modern system. It’s one of those things where like Lightroom was built years ago, like back in 2006 2007. I guess there wasn’t the ability to throw a lot of processing over to the graphics processor. I don’t think like it was as important back then to use your graphics processor for rendering and processing and crunching some of the some of the graphics at the Edit. So I think a lot of that was built to like run and process the raw files through the just the main processor. So I guess there’s a lot of things about Lightroom that just aren’t made to run really slow, given the modern computer architecture that people are using. Other people are developing. And so I think that’s where like there’s an advantage to maybe some future new Adobe software, but also for some of these current players that are trying to do some of this photo editing software stuff like the other one. Affinity Photo, which is one that I think you’d see a little bit right.
Just a little bit. Yeah, I really I’ve not put anything on my computer. Yeah,
I haven’t put anything on. I know, I it looks like there’s a lot going on there It looks like and I hear a lot of people talking about how impressive the iPad app is like if you have an iPad Pro, I guess like the the affinity pro app on an iPad is really powerful for for tablet tablet. And you can do a lot of stuff like with the pencil, the Apple Pencil or with your finger to do like healing adjustments, a lot of stuff like that, that you really couldn’t do with software outside of Photoshop before. So it’s cool that they made like some progress on that. And I guess Affinity Photo is also producing digital file management software to go along with Affinity Photo, which I really like the Lightroom part of it. Yeah.
Yeah, kind of be like Lightroom. I think
it’s the Lightroom part and the part where you you can apply adjustments to multiple files at the same time. Oh, sure. Stuff like that. I think it’s like a lot of those features that they’re trying to build out this year because of the changes that Adobe’s made to the Lightroom system. And how they’re changing over to like the Creative Cloud system and the you know, kind of Lightroom Express system. Yeah, not really as much of a pro tool. That’s what I’ve heard it sounds like yeah, so I think that’s why a lot of professionals are a little bit unhappy with that adjustment into their workflow, you know, they’re just looking for that, that professional system that they have to increase and get better in the ways they need. Yeah, yeah, I think I think Adobe is trying to hit a wider market of hobby photographer or Instagram, you know, kind of it’s more about adjustments. Yeah, yeah. One click kind of adjustments. Yeah, sort of things. Yeah.
It’ll be interesting to see how that ends up going.
Yeah, it will be interesting, you know, that that’s sort of the shift in modern computers in a lot of ways. And if you were working an iPad, I bet it will be swell a bit. It’ll be pretty cool, you know, to run a bunch of photos off on an iPad through that system. You know, probably they probably work. Okay. I don’t think it’s really the direction that I’m going to go. I don’t know. I just actually seem like it’s the right, the right zone.
That was what I was thinking. I’m hoping that the change really encourages these other companies to Oh, yeah, develop their, their products where I was, yeah, I was hoping they’ll be they’ll be something to kind of replace what Lightroom is right now.
Definitely. They really like Lightroom. Before Lightroom there was aperture that was built by aperture and then they stopped producing aperture. I don’t know what’s gonna really happen with Lightroom I’m sure that it’s going to stick around. And I’m sure it’s really going to be like top of market share for a long time for photographers editing software, it’ll likely kind of remain in my workflow for a long time, too. I was looking at a capture one, it’s not the thing I really want to use. Yeah. affinity there’s some future, you know, but I haven’t really no, there’s really not the thing that I’m looking to use in the way that I use Lightroom right now,
that was what I noticed when I was looking through other photo editing software, there’s really, there are a lot of things that look cool. And like they could be something useful. Yeah. But it’s just not really. It just doesn’t seem like it’s there yet. Kind of editing. I’m trying to go for.
We’ll see what pops up in the next year. And I you know, I guess the cool thing is is like the the given version of Lightroom that I have right now is, it’s totally fine for me. Yeah, these old version of Lightroom. Anyone? Yeah, they come out. But I’m so happy with the the older one for a long time. So I’m kinda interested. I’m really only interested in buying software that I own. I’m not interested in leasing software, even as a working professional, even if I’m making money from using the software. Yeah, it’s got to be a real special kind of business software license that I’m working. But it can’t I don’t want to rent software, it can’t be my color correction software for my photographs. I need to I need to own that. database. Yeah, it’s a really good thing. Yeah. And for as much as I’m working it, I think I need to I need to have it’s no service.
Right? Yeah. It’s just something that part of your daily we’re
paying for storage, paying for a website pay for hosting, paying for processing, something like that. But the I don’t want to pay for the thing in total, if it’s just raw processing and color correction, cropping and exporting of a file, like there’s a lot of image editing systems out there. And everything I can do, I can do it on an older system. But I’m interested if we go forward with some new software, I’m interested in trying like, like affinity, or you know, one of these other more modern just buy outright systems. It’s like, yeah, it’s like $100. And suddenly, there’s Pixelmator. Pro. That’s it a new program coming out. Yeah. And that’s supposed to be kind of a Photoshop level replacement for stuff. I think that’s like, definitely when you’re like working with layers working with, you know, textures. And so yeah, you can do a lot with it. Yeah.
I think that I had looked at that one really briefly. And yeah, that one is more like Photoshop. Yeah. Or has more like Photoshop capability? Yeah.
Yeah. I’ve heard people are really into that are like really surprised with the level of quality that they can do and the speed that they’re able to process that stuff, as it as like were we talking about? It’s built to work on metal? Like, I think a couple of these things that we’ve been talking about our apple apps, and I think metal is that system where it writes, it writes really quickly to the graphics card. Right? Yeah. So what is that I can’t remember, I can’t remember the names of it. These like these graphic layers, these graphic options used to work. But yeah, this is supposed to be like a way faster system of processing some of that graphic stuff. And it goes this was to be a big benefit. But that’s the sort of thing I want to try out with you is that, and I want to try to kind of invest in that stuff, just because we would own it, we have a license, we get to use it for as much as we’d want to. But yeah, we should try and check it out a little bit. Also, I think it’d be kind of fun to get some of the software’s and just do like little videos about it. Oh, that’d be fun. Yeah, I’m just like, trying it out checking it out. Like hey, like, yeah, we capture one. Yeah. We just kind of check out. Yeah, yeah. But I want to try some of these I want to try, like, you know, tech check out and, and see if some of these other tools are, are better, or are more modern, or kind of make a different, more creative result? Yeah, a bit of that in Lightroom, where you seem to kind of fall in like a little bit of a rut of like, how Lightroom edits a photo? Oh, my
gosh, Yeah, no kidding. Yeah, you can get a little stuck in routines, or just like how you kind of have to adjust it?
Yeah, yeah, there’s a little bit of that. And I’d like to see if there’s some new thinking around around that workflow that makes it a little bit or breaks up my creativity a little bit makes something a little different. So I think it’s worth it just in the sense of that kind of investment. But, but yeah, well, I think I mean, actually, you know, everything’s fine. So I’m one of those people that kind of says, Yeah, I usually use the old or use. I don’t know, Adobe Camera Raw, if you have to, it’s probably like most of the adjustments that you need to do anyway, I think I’m not really big into retouching stuff. You know, but like, I think you need to like work a raw file. Yeah, process it color, correct it make something out of it. So yeah, I think there’s a lot you can do just with about anything, but it’s kind of interesting, just seeing like some of these new software’s come out and how they’re being developed. There’s another one like on one, it’s up in Portland. Yeah. Seems like a Lightroom competitor. So the idea behind it, I’m not really gotten into it. I think that like a beta come out and I was a little confused. About how to use some of it. But really again, like that’s the main thing i’m saying is all these new photo editing software’s. It’s like, I’m kind of confused as to use up so grant are ingrained in using the stuff in? Oh, yes. The lighter weight room. Yeah. Yeah. That’s been really cool. He doesn’t, or you know, it’s just been like, what I’ve gotten used to for a long time. So I know, we’re kind of making a transition. But it’s that bad.
Yeah, it’ll be interesting. Just checking out some of these new things.
Yeah. Alright, check out more stuff with you. I don’t know. We’ll have to figure it out. We got to figure out some new editing stuff to be fine. But really, I think for a long time, I want to want to jump into a bunch of these raw files that we have from the last month or so. One of them is I want to try and compare presets, this is something we haven’t really done much before. But I want to try and get into some presets for Lightroom stuff. Yeah. And I want to try and do a little investment into like affinity are in the Pixelmator, or, you know, one of those other alternatives. I think with affinity, at least, there’s a bunch of preset systems for the photo editing stuff there, too. I want to try and compare them a little bit or run some of our other photos through it and see like, what kind of creative results we get by like working with some of these preset packets, over in Lightroom, or some of the new stuff that you could do over an affinity just be kind of cool to try and experiment a little bit with that.
Yeah, I think that would be cool. To get into the preset stuff a little bit. I see that as like a huge part of a lot of photographers workflow. Yeah. I’m curious about like, what, what that is like to use?
Um, yeah, I’m pretty interested to I see tons of people on Instagram kind of promoting their preset systems. Oh, yeah. selling their preset time. I don’t know if I’ll do that so much as watch a YouTube video about how one built such and such preset package. I’m interested. There’s lots of stuff out there we can find that could kind of be creative start for us to find something to do. But it’s interesting to see that the levels of editing that go into some of the color corrections that happen on these photographs. Oh, yeah. Yeah, some levels of editing that I’m not really familiar with, really. So I guess there’s a lot that I should learn about it. You know,
really, like, that’s a big part of why I’m interested in seeing other people’s preset packages. Yeah, I just want to understand for like, four presets that are for photos that I think look better. Oh, yeah, good, right. I’m just, I’m just interested in seeing like, what does that look like? I’m trying to figure out like when someone else is putting a photo together? Like,
I’m really trying to figure it out, too. Yeah. What What is the system of stuff on the side that you’re looking at? What are the adjustments that are going on? Like what hue and tint stuff is being pulled around? It seems like there’s a lot of stuff going on in there. Like there’s a few kind of granular changes into color correction stuff that that I’m probably not getting into. And my photographs, and I bet there’s a lot of stuff that could be pretty cool.
Yeah, I think it’d be really interesting to get into Yeah, I want to do some imaginations some photographs that have,
yeah, I’ve been going back through really like my portfolio, I guess, and trying to reevaluate what my best photos are, and also just re edit a lot of stuff. Oh, that’s great. Yeah, but yeah, I’m trying to get into better finer editing.
See, yeah, I’d like to try and figure that out, too. Yeah, I’ve noticed that that’s like an element of the post processing and post processing stuff that I really want to get into, in a heavier way is like the level of of editing stuff that I’m able to do, or just the level of choices I’m able to make when I get into something like Lightroom, or affinity in the future. So it’ll be cool that we should really develop on that it’d be cool to try and push ourselves on that a little bit and see if we can learn some new tricks. Yeah, man, I like I process probably 200,000 300,000 photos, and last couple years. I usually export stuff. And so with that, I don’t know what I did, or, you know, there’s really not, it’s just, it’s just sort of automatic. Or, you know, like, there’s just a lot of things that like aren’t setting out there. It’s a weird thing. Like, just kind of like moving through Lightroom for a long time.
Yeah, I know, there’s a lot of stuff that you probably kind of just like, auto work through. I know. That’s how it is for me. Yeah, a lot of pictures. And I think it’s spent as much time on it’s like,
it’s like when, like when Tiger Woods was playing golf. And like halfway through, he needed to get a new coach for a swing. I don’t know, golf, but yeah, yeah, like any coach, because he was like hurting his shoulder because his swing was wrong. So we need to like correct his swing, but it’s one of those things where it’s like muscle memory, right? It’s like so ingrained in like the way you do something, I should hold something. So it takes a lot to kind of break that habit of yourself that muscle habit yourself and then kind of figure out a new way to do the thing that you do. So we got a we got to kind of break ourselves a little bit, but I want to do a bunch. Like as we get more and more into wedding photographs. I want to try and figure out some interesting stylistic things that we can do in those photographs through our post processing.
Absolutely. Yeah, I’ve been really because that’s what I’ve been doing for photo editing. Yeah, mostly last couple months as like wedding photos. stuff from work that we’ve been doing. Yeah. And yeah, I really want to get into more of a stylized way of doing that. I like a little bit more of a particular kind of quality. Yeah, I really like because our photos are awesome. They’re so good. But I want to, really, I mean, that’s kind of what I like about going back to like the Sony cameras and stuff like, like, they don’t even have to be edited. They look beautiful, already, but I want to get into making them look a little bit more like a style. Yeah, not just that it’s a really beautiful photo, but that it’s like,
No, I want to work with a good way to, I really want to be selective about our lens use. Oh, my gosh, I think there’s a lot that we know to do in that that we’re not really able to execute on right now for some of our projects. And that’s something I really want to change, you know, where we get, we get some stuff in there. But that’s that, that right piece. So I really want to focus on that. And the I really want to focus on our post processing element on top of that, to really get the right kind of texture in the file, when we make it and the right kind of colors. And you know, just that the right photo. And then I want to try and really do a great job in Lightroom or in our post processing stuff to kind of pull that out and make it the most and make it look a little stylized, a little different, and a little better. Yeah, that’ll be cool. I think we’ve got a pretty distinct style with the things that we’ve been working on over the years. I want to try and push that visually into just a new directions. So that’ll be fun. I really liked it. And I liked doing this podcast with you, Marina. We’ve done a pretty solid amount of time here. Thanks for being a little a little pro broadcaster. Hey, thanks so much for podcasting with me. I like using our studio. Oh yeah, I’m having a great time using it. It’s uh, it’s better than sitting in my truck. Yeah, I dig it. I think it’s a it’s been having a cool podcast studio with you. Yeah, thanks a bunch for recording with me. Thanks so much for making some podcasts making some content. We gotta come back tomorrow. Do another one shed empty show never too. Well, thanks, Marina for doing this episode of the billionaire moon photo podcast. You can find Marina what’s your Instagram handle nowadays?
Is Marina visual arts
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