WEBVTT Kind: captions Language: en Title: Billy Newman Photo Podcast Episode 297: The Reality of Permaculture Farms | Balancing Art and Commerce in Photography 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:23.068 Welcome to the Billy Newman Photo Podcast. Commercial, landscape, and outdoor photography techniques, gear retrospectives, and field tutorials from the Pacific Northwest. 00:00:23.068 --> 00:00:27.708 Those people say, yeah, I can take a photo of that, I guess, for you for some price. 00:00:30.358 --> 00:00:31.418 Yeah, it's a good time. 00:00:31.578 --> 00:00:36.718 So I remember hearing back from a place that I had contacted that was a permaculture farm. 00:00:37.418 --> 00:00:38.598 A permaculture farm, okay. 00:00:38.698 --> 00:00:41.898 And they needed someone to do media for them. 00:00:41.998 --> 00:00:45.438 Or I think it was someone to do some photographs and some video for them. 00:00:45.538 --> 00:00:49.358 And I think they wanted someone to be there for a full-time kind of thing. 00:00:49.558 --> 00:00:53.628 And it was weird because I remember when I got there, I went to this town. 00:00:53.628 --> 00:00:54.868 And it was different than the one I was in. 00:00:55.068 --> 00:00:58.208 I went out, and it was outside of town, too. 00:00:58.288 --> 00:01:03.028 And then I go out there, and it's like a, I guess, like a cult. 00:01:03.228 --> 00:01:03.988 It's not a cult. 00:01:04.188 --> 00:01:06.988 But I think they think it's a commune. 00:01:08.008 --> 00:01:09.048 It's not a cult. 00:01:09.348 --> 00:01:12.148 But they were just like in a quinoa and stuff. 00:01:12.248 --> 00:01:13.248 But I remember it was weird. 00:01:13.368 --> 00:01:14.688 Yeah, it was like a permaculture farm. 00:01:14.688 --> 00:01:19.348 They wanted to have a bunch of recruitment videos and stuff. 00:01:19.408 --> 00:01:21.848 And a bunch of photographs for their flyer. 00:01:21.848 --> 00:01:25.788 So I remember going there and like walking around this permaculture farm, 00:01:26.688 --> 00:01:30.948 like photographing like little chickens that were running around the garden and stuff. 00:01:31.148 --> 00:01:32.928 And then talking to like these different people. 00:01:33.328 --> 00:01:37.868 And so the next job, that was fine for the most part. 00:01:37.948 --> 00:01:40.848 I think they used some of those photographs and stuff. 00:01:40.968 --> 00:01:45.608 But I think the next one that I did was like a video interview section 00:01:45.608 --> 00:01:49.488 where I had to kind of do like a documentary-style video interview with them 00:01:49.488 --> 00:01:51.448 where it was just them that was videotaped. 00:01:52.188 --> 00:01:55.628 And they would kind of talk about, you know, so what's this farm about? 00:01:55.768 --> 00:01:56.968 And then they would talk about that. 00:01:57.088 --> 00:01:59.528 And they'd say like, oh, our vision for this farm is whatever. 00:02:00.388 --> 00:02:02.888 And then they would kind of put that on video and stuff. 00:02:02.928 --> 00:02:03.868 And so they would talk for a while. 00:02:03.968 --> 00:02:05.548 And I got those videos and stuff. 00:02:05.668 --> 00:02:08.068 But I remember like kind of looking at like their work and stuff. 00:02:08.168 --> 00:02:10.748 Like I guess they were supposed to set up a farm permaculture. 00:02:10.968 --> 00:02:11.648 Permaculture is kind of weird. 00:02:11.648 --> 00:02:14.788 I think it's supposed to be like low-impact agriculture. 00:02:15.918 --> 00:02:18.058 I think it's a little more than foraging. 00:02:18.638 --> 00:02:23.318 I think my understanding is that it's sort of like you're setting it up to be foraged. 00:02:23.558 --> 00:02:26.998 But also really, I don't know. 00:02:27.098 --> 00:02:31.958 So there's people in forestry, people that have been doing projects in the outdoors forever 00:02:31.958 --> 00:02:35.018 that have been doing this kind of wilderness husbandry 00:02:35.478 --> 00:02:38.958 where they're trying to like manage a piece of land to be the most developed, 00:02:38.958 --> 00:02:41.418 the most natural, but also the most productive that it could be. 00:02:41.778 --> 00:02:43.778 So I think it's been something that's been kind of going on for a while. 00:02:43.958 --> 00:02:48.858 I do understand there's differences in commercial farming or even like local organic farming 00:02:48.858 --> 00:02:52.458 where you're doing a lot of kind of traditional agricultural processes 00:02:52.458 --> 00:02:57.878 or traditional gardening processes that are a little different than the ethics behind permaculture. 00:02:59.598 --> 00:03:04.718 But yeah, I think they were really into setting up these permaculture gardens. 00:03:04.718 --> 00:03:10.738 But when I was out there, I noticed they had no gardens or they had nothing prepared. 00:03:10.738 --> 00:03:14.358 And then I remember looking at this other thing where they walked me around to like videotape 00:03:14.358 --> 00:03:18.378 these different sections of their beautiful establishments there, the grounds. 00:03:19.178 --> 00:03:23.538 And I think they were like really proud of this like pit that they had dug. 00:03:23.758 --> 00:03:30.198 They just like dug this hole like a three foot by maybe six foot or is a three foot deep hole 00:03:30.198 --> 00:03:34.098 that was maybe six foot wide by two foot wide or something like that. 00:03:34.098 --> 00:03:36.558 Yeah. And they said that they'd been working on that all summer. 00:03:38.028 --> 00:03:42.488 Oh, all right. I don't know. It just seems like there's like 20 people there. 00:03:43.868 --> 00:03:45.888 Is that what you get done over a whole summer? 00:03:46.048 --> 00:03:50.908 And then they took me over to this other thing that I think was supposed to be like a gray water wash. 00:03:52.648 --> 00:03:56.928 Like, yeah, there's, I don't know, there's systems that have existed for that for a long time. 00:03:56.928 --> 00:03:58.748 And it seems like people still put those in all the time. 00:03:58.868 --> 00:04:02.728 So it could have been a lot of, I don't know, it was very unfinished. 00:04:04.238 --> 00:04:07.778 The next thing that they did though, or the next place that they took me over to was like this, 00:04:09.898 --> 00:04:11.358 this cabin that they were building. 00:04:11.498 --> 00:04:17.438 It was supposed to be like a, a green insulated cabin, but it really was not. 00:04:17.438 --> 00:04:20.598 It was like, it seemed like a crazy project. 00:04:20.738 --> 00:04:23.938 It was like none of them had like a background in doing construction stuff, 00:04:23.938 --> 00:04:30.418 but it just seemed like it was kind of this patchwork plywood shack that they were trying to put together. 00:04:30.618 --> 00:04:34.158 And I think they were like putting, I think it was far enough along. 00:04:34.318 --> 00:04:45.458 What they were trying to do was put like a wire frame in and then put hay and mud in the walls to act as like a strong insulation. 00:04:46.908 --> 00:04:54.668 And then I think they were going to cover that over again and then put the, the more finishing layer on it after that. 00:04:54.808 --> 00:04:58.948 But also, I don't think it was that, that, that well thought through. 00:04:59.048 --> 00:05:02.208 I think it was just sort of, I don't think it was a blueprint kind of idea. 00:05:02.368 --> 00:05:02.808 You know what I mean? 00:05:02.848 --> 00:05:05.808 I think it was just sort of like, well, we'll just start, start one of these. 00:05:06.668 --> 00:05:08.688 And a lot of fine building projects are like that. 00:05:08.768 --> 00:05:11.628 A lot of people can do just fine doing that. 00:05:11.728 --> 00:05:13.908 But man, this one was a first timers thing. 00:05:13.908 --> 00:05:15.588 So it looked like a playhouse or everything. 00:05:15.728 --> 00:05:24.188 It looked like a playhouse with mud kind of smeared over the walls, mud and hay smeared over the walls as it was prepared to be continued. 00:05:24.368 --> 00:05:27.068 But they said that they'd been working on that for like four months too. 00:05:27.168 --> 00:05:29.128 And then I think it had been in about the same state for about a month. 00:05:29.208 --> 00:05:34.548 So I guess what I'm gathering is that just with all these people here doing whatever at a permaculture farm, 00:05:34.648 --> 00:05:40.108 they wanted a videographer, a photographer to come in and capture, capture the spirit of this place. 00:05:40.228 --> 00:05:41.928 But yeah, good jobs, right? 00:05:41.928 --> 00:05:46.588 So it's that kind of stuff that comes up as a photographer where you're just kind of like showing up to this weird thing 00:05:46.588 --> 00:05:52.048 and you're kind of like brought into this weird environment that is just like a different experience. 00:05:52.048 --> 00:05:52.528 You know what I mean? 00:05:52.648 --> 00:05:56.128 Or it's like a weird place to kind of pop into. 00:05:56.348 --> 00:05:57.108 Plenty of other stuff too. 00:05:57.228 --> 00:05:59.148 Like, I don't know, just the weird churches I got popped into. 00:06:01.208 --> 00:06:05.048 Weird family dynamics you get punched into when you're doing like a family photo shoot. 00:06:05.228 --> 00:06:05.848 Those are strange. 00:06:06.028 --> 00:06:09.008 Weddings are normally pretty light because there's so many people there. 00:06:09.008 --> 00:06:12.568 It's really like one of the more low impact circumstances you're in. 00:06:12.708 --> 00:06:19.068 But like, yeah, the wedding or the church directory photography, that was a strange one. 00:06:19.808 --> 00:06:24.828 The stuff in Maui, you know, just as that is like, it's just like, oh, wow, what a weird dynamic it is to like pop over to. 00:06:24.908 --> 00:06:28.228 You know, it's just like different kinds of things like I was saying as you do over time as a photographer. 00:06:28.228 --> 00:06:30.528 It's like, oh, well, I guess I'll do this gig for a little bit. 00:06:30.648 --> 00:06:33.408 You go over to Maui, you do some photographs for a while. 00:06:34.088 --> 00:06:34.568 It's cool. 00:06:35.488 --> 00:06:37.448 But yeah, just like weird stories that come up from that sort of stuff. 00:06:37.608 --> 00:06:39.128 Weird dynamics that come up from that sort of stuff. 00:06:39.268 --> 00:06:45.548 Or like, like I was saying, yeah, this permaculture farm down out in the country, out in the woods. 00:06:45.668 --> 00:06:57.688 And yeah, I was just run by these, like, I think it was this, I think it was like a guy who was like a younger kind of hippie dude who was into this stuff and sort of into that culture. 00:06:57.708 --> 00:06:59.088 And then, yeah, it was like a team of other people. 00:06:59.168 --> 00:07:00.568 And I remember them trying to like recruit me. 00:07:00.568 --> 00:07:05.828 I think that what they said, yeah, watch out for this move, like this ever happens, right? 00:07:05.948 --> 00:07:17.048 But what they told me was, what if we don't pay you and we let you live here if you go through a process? 00:07:17.048 --> 00:07:17.168 What if they said, yeah. 00:07:45.407 --> 00:07:48.907 So I don't know, I just think it's kind of an interesting way that they seem to be going 00:07:48.907 --> 00:07:51.887 or that the program is built to sort of go about it. 00:07:52.087 --> 00:07:54.087 So I'm trying to get into that and do it well. 00:07:54.207 --> 00:07:59.667 But one of the aspects I'm trying to do is to put in all the portfolio photographs that 00:07:59.667 --> 00:08:05.467 I have into this Word document and then sort of sort those photographs and write about 00:08:05.467 --> 00:08:08.607 those photographs a little bit to see which photographs really seem to connect with me 00:08:08.607 --> 00:08:11.107 or connect and connect with an audience the most. 00:08:11.907 --> 00:08:15.067 And also what photographs sort of have a story associated with them. 00:08:15.167 --> 00:08:20.097 I love that, like if you would follow me for this for a second, you would kind of see that 00:08:20.097 --> 00:08:25.207 there's a difference between the photographs that are going to be the most monetizable, 00:08:25.447 --> 00:08:29.467 the ones that you can make money from, like let's say portraits, let's say business portraits 00:08:29.467 --> 00:08:30.287 for some company. 00:08:30.447 --> 00:08:34.867 You could get some money for that, but you wouldn't really want to post that in your portfolio 00:08:34.867 --> 00:08:36.247 of work necessarily. 00:08:36.967 --> 00:08:41.927 At least in my case, what I'd like to do is show some photos from the Imnaha River Canyon, 00:08:42.067 --> 00:08:44.527 like where we were last week on our photo trip. 00:08:44.987 --> 00:08:50.207 So you kind of want to move into that stuff, but it's not going to be the same sort of thing 00:08:50.207 --> 00:08:57.567 like those landscape fine art photos or just the landscape travel, adventure, tourism sort 00:08:57.567 --> 00:08:57.827 of stuff. 00:08:57.947 --> 00:08:59.407 That's all going to be on one side of it. 00:08:59.407 --> 00:09:05.307 And then the other is going to be, you know, senior portraits, business portraits, event 00:09:05.307 --> 00:09:07.587 photography, wedding photography, that sort of stuff. 00:09:07.727 --> 00:09:10.807 So there's sort of two sides of a portfolio. 00:09:11.167 --> 00:09:14.967 One of them's a photo product that's valuable for money. 00:09:15.127 --> 00:09:21.827 And the other one's an art piece that's valuable because of its aesthetic. 00:09:22.067 --> 00:09:25.567 And those are sort of different things that you're kind of, as a photographer, you're trying 00:09:25.567 --> 00:09:28.627 to build both of those up at the same time. 00:09:28.807 --> 00:09:32.367 It's sort of like two different routes that you have to work on at the same time until they 00:09:32.367 --> 00:09:35.067 sort of merge together and unify. 00:09:35.707 --> 00:09:37.627 So it's kind of an interesting part of it. 00:09:37.727 --> 00:09:41.687 And that seems to be part of the process that I'm in right now is trying to figure that stuff 00:09:41.687 --> 00:09:41.907 out. 00:09:42.047 --> 00:09:46.867 So some weeks it's, I'm working really hard on the aesthetic side of the photography. 00:09:46.867 --> 00:09:53.227 And then some weeks I'm working really hard on the monetizable compensation-based side of 00:09:53.227 --> 00:09:56.987 the products that I want to try and build as a photographer that's in business, right? 00:09:57.527 --> 00:09:59.667 And there are, those are interesting challenges. 00:10:00.887 --> 00:10:05.487 But I guess I've been doing it for a couple of years and it's kind of fun at least to get 00:10:05.487 --> 00:10:06.287 to still be doing it. 00:10:06.427 --> 00:10:11.357 So a couple of things that I'm trying to do is I'm trying to go through and build a new 00:10:11.357 --> 00:10:15.737 Lightroom catalog of all the photos that I've taken this year and all the photos from the 00:10:15.737 --> 00:10:19.237 last couple of years so I can organize those and do a little bit of what I'm talking about. 00:10:19.317 --> 00:10:24.217 So I have this kind of tighter collection to maybe the top 100, top 200, top 50, some 00:10:24.217 --> 00:10:32.727 number in there of well-laid out photo essays and stories with an image. 00:10:32.867 --> 00:10:36.727 You know, that's kind of what I'm trying to get to, especially for like the social media 00:10:36.727 --> 00:10:37.807 content side of it. 00:10:37.867 --> 00:10:42.247 I want to try and have that ready to go with a higher frequency almost all the time. 00:10:42.347 --> 00:10:44.427 So I'm trying to get everything kind of pre-produced, right? 00:10:44.427 --> 00:10:48.947 If that makes sense, I want all the portfolio photos pre-selected and then ready for me 00:10:48.947 --> 00:10:53.007 to go if I want to post those or get those out on any given day. 00:10:53.427 --> 00:10:55.727 So it's interesting. 00:10:55.967 --> 00:10:56.787 It's kind of a cool project. 00:10:56.827 --> 00:10:58.167 So I worked on it a little bit. 00:10:58.467 --> 00:11:00.687 I'll work on it a little bit here and there when I can. 00:11:00.807 --> 00:11:02.267 But that's another part that's kind of tough. 00:11:02.367 --> 00:11:05.987 I mean, gosh, I haven't even finished my website yet, which I guess the last part is 00:11:05.987 --> 00:11:06.607 still just this. 00:11:06.747 --> 00:11:10.867 I need to, it's kind of what it's been waiting for is I need to finish the selection of 00:11:10.867 --> 00:11:16.187 the portfolio and then I can build the portfolio gallery and put that up on the website. 00:11:16.527 --> 00:11:19.967 But so far, it's been working great just to send y'all over to Instagram. 00:11:20.267 --> 00:11:21.847 I think that's where most of the stuff goes. 00:11:21.927 --> 00:11:23.487 That's where all the current content goes anyway, too. 00:11:23.667 --> 00:11:25.067 So it's fine. 00:11:25.387 --> 00:11:32.067 And up on Hootsuite or it was up on Facebook, up on Instagram today, I was putting up a photo 00:11:32.067 --> 00:11:33.847 from the Imnaha River Canyon. 00:11:34.027 --> 00:11:34.767 It's this really cool spot. 00:11:34.767 --> 00:11:39.647 When you get to the town of Imnaha, that's right where the river would run through, the 00:11:39.647 --> 00:11:40.427 Imnaha River. 00:11:40.687 --> 00:11:43.027 And then from there, it's really cool. 00:11:43.147 --> 00:11:47.147 There's like steep canyon walls on either side of it that go up. 00:11:47.207 --> 00:11:48.067 But it's cool in that area. 00:11:48.207 --> 00:11:54.597 It's kind of this like highland grassland that kind of goes out. 00:11:54.737 --> 00:11:58.497 And that morning when we were camping there, we got to take a lot of really cool photos 00:11:58.497 --> 00:12:03.617 up by the campsite that we were at that was just right up on the rim of the mountain or 00:12:03.617 --> 00:12:04.477 the rim of the ridge. 00:12:04.577 --> 00:12:06.417 And it looks out down into the canyon. 00:12:06.417 --> 00:12:09.857 So you get to kind of see a few thousand feet down into the canyon. 00:12:09.997 --> 00:12:14.037 And then as it kind of climbs back up to the other side, as you would look west out toward 00:12:14.037 --> 00:12:17.077 the Wallowa Mountains, the Eagle Cap Wilderness Area. 00:12:17.257 --> 00:12:21.317 And then over to your east, which you can't see really, but over to your east, if you kept 00:12:21.317 --> 00:12:25.717 going, would be the ridge that would go down to the Snake River on that side into the 00:12:25.717 --> 00:12:26.577 Hells Canyon. 00:12:27.337 --> 00:12:31.597 So it's a really cool, really beautiful spot up there to get to spend some time. 00:12:31.597 --> 00:12:39.177 But the spot that I took the photograph that was posted today was this really pretty just 00:12:39.177 --> 00:12:44.607 corner of the Imnahar River Canyon on the road that you would drive on to get out toward Hells 00:12:44.607 --> 00:12:44.927 Canyon. 00:12:45.247 --> 00:12:49.327 And as you stopped there, we were taking photos in the morning while the shadows are still 00:12:49.327 --> 00:12:51.927 kind of at an angle, which is what I love about. 00:12:51.927 --> 00:12:54.987 You know, it's tough when you get into midday, like where I am right now. 00:12:54.987 --> 00:12:58.147 Now, the shadows from the sun, they come straight down. 00:12:58.187 --> 00:13:04.377 And so you don't really get any detail in some of the contours of the shapes that you'd be 00:13:04.377 --> 00:13:05.377 taking photographs of. 00:13:05.497 --> 00:13:09.417 So I really like the angle, the position, the lighting and stuff for the photograph. 00:13:10.157 --> 00:13:12.037 I thought it was cool to get to be out there again. 00:13:12.117 --> 00:13:12.897 And I love that area. 00:13:13.037 --> 00:13:17.677 But I have a bunch of other photos from that area and then kind of on from there when we 00:13:17.677 --> 00:13:18.717 went to a few other spots. 00:13:18.857 --> 00:13:20.997 But I have a photo from Imnahar growing up today. 00:13:21.137 --> 00:13:23.317 You can check that out at Billy Newman on Instagram. 00:13:23.317 --> 00:13:25.337 I'm also trying to put up a video clip. 00:13:25.517 --> 00:13:28.517 I'll probably put one up from the Imnahar photo trip also. 00:13:28.817 --> 00:13:30.037 I'll put up a longer clip. 00:13:30.417 --> 00:13:35.197 So it's maybe a little behind the scenes stuff of while we were running around working on 00:13:35.197 --> 00:13:35.537 stuff. 00:13:35.897 --> 00:13:37.537 So it should be kind of cool. 00:13:37.677 --> 00:13:40.977 I'll try and get that up onto YouTube and maybe I'll cross post that over to Facebook 00:13:40.977 --> 00:13:45.977 or I'll get that up on as a Hootsuite scheduled link here sometime soon. 00:13:46.907 --> 00:13:50.697 But yeah, I got to figure that out probably before the end of my lunch break here. 00:13:50.697 --> 00:13:56.057 Oh, and then I'm also trying to get the podcasts that I'm recording here up onto YouTube. 00:13:56.337 --> 00:14:00.357 So you can go to my YouTube page if you search for Billy Newman Photo. 00:14:00.957 --> 00:14:02.517 You should be able to find it. 00:14:02.817 --> 00:14:08.097 And I think I have a whole section of the channel there devoted to all of the podcasts 00:14:08.097 --> 00:14:11.057 episodes that I put together so far in the past. 00:14:11.357 --> 00:14:15.497 But I think that's just about everything that I am working on media wise today. 00:15:00.406 --> 00:15:05.986 my stuff is parody for sure and uh it's it's interesting to see how uh how different 00:15:05.986 --> 00:15:11.366 photographers price and sell their work and it's weird how they kind of uh package it and build it 00:15:11.366 --> 00:15:15.966 into a business part of it and i know that's the hugest part about turning what you're interested 00:15:15.966 --> 00:15:21.806 in into a way to make money is sort of transitioning that from just your interest and what you occupy 00:15:21.806 --> 00:15:28.706 your time on to manufacture to really what you're able to deliver or uh or to to deal out 00:15:29.276 --> 00:15:34.996 and to put out in scale to to people and businesses and you know i don't know some kind of commercial 00:15:34.996 --> 00:15:39.096 activity where you can get paid from man that's something i really need to figure out 00:15:40.076 --> 00:15:45.496 something i really need to figure out so the first thing i wanted to talk about was the changeover 00:15:45.496 --> 00:15:51.236 in the workflow that i've been working on uh probably for most of the month of june and july so 00:15:51.236 --> 00:15:58.676 far all of my nikon gear every nikon camera i have is going see ya uh in fact i still got a 00:15:58.676 --> 00:16:06.296 couple film cameras if you want one give me a call um but i have a couple uh well i've just kind of 00:16:06.296 --> 00:16:13.396 collected like a mass of very inexpensive cameras camera bodies lenses that have all kind of come from 00:16:13.396 --> 00:16:18.936 thrift stores or used gear or things that have been hand-me-down or kits that have sort of compiled 00:16:18.936 --> 00:16:27.176 themselves over time uh and so i have like uh countertops full of of sort of strange off pieces 00:16:27.176 --> 00:16:34.236 of camera equipment a lot of it really is like five to fifteen dollars of value like old pentax lenses 00:16:34.236 --> 00:16:40.256 or old olympus lenses that are sort of off-brand vivitar from the late 70s 80s and there's cool 00:16:40.256 --> 00:16:44.536 stuff in there and there's a couple nikon things that were okay glass but but really overall it was 00:16:44.536 --> 00:16:50.496 very dusty very kind of this will sort of work or this would be fun to try out sort of stuff that was 00:16:50.496 --> 00:16:56.156 uh that was just kind of left with me ultimately like a lot of like there's like a canon ae1 i'd never 00:16:56.156 --> 00:17:02.336 shot it before but it was uh picked up at an estate sale and given it to me um you know so 00:17:02.336 --> 00:17:06.476 there's like a big collection of all these cameras that i'd had and all parts of systems that i don't 00:17:06.476 --> 00:17:12.276 use and all parts of the nikon system that i do use but what i was noticing is as happy as i was 00:17:12.276 --> 00:17:16.396 with the d3 body that i've been shooting with over the last year and as much as i like shooting 00:17:16.396 --> 00:17:22.596 with film and shooting with the nikon f4 and the nikon glass and all that it's been great but what i 00:17:22.596 --> 00:17:28.556 noticed really is that it's just kind of behind the time or maybe what i noticed behind any judgment 00:17:28.556 --> 00:17:33.856 about nikon being better or worse than what i could get outside of it what i noticed most 00:17:35.106 --> 00:17:39.946 is that i'm tired of it or is that uh i'm kind of creatively looking to get rid of like what i just 00:17:39.946 --> 00:17:46.066 mentioned this desk full of bits and pieces of glass that can't really be used and can't really 00:17:46.066 --> 00:17:50.386 be implemented like it's 30 pounds like it's a huge amount i put it all in this big box and i shipped it 00:17:50.386 --> 00:17:56.706 off it was super heavy it was like a big large box full of stuff that's all gone i shipped it out 00:17:56.706 --> 00:18:02.146 i've sold it i pulled in the couple grand that all that stuff is cumulatively worth and then i'm gonna 00:18:02.146 --> 00:18:08.546 reinvest that and try and buy newer equipment and really focus in on uh on buying like nicer higher 00:18:08.546 --> 00:18:14.006 end glass that's been the issue that i've had for the longest time as a photographer is that uh all 00:18:14.006 --> 00:18:19.666 of my investments in glass have been the investments of a college student and that was 00:18:19.666 --> 00:18:29.606 pretty limited like i was astounded i was so excited oh i was paying for all my peers camera 00:18:29.606 --> 00:18:37.546 equipment during my time in college but i was ecstatic to get the nifty 50 for nikon the the nikon 00:18:37.546 --> 00:18:44.706 50 millimeter one eight afd lens it was this like hundred and nineteen dollar lens that you can still 00:18:44.706 --> 00:18:49.786 buy on amazon or anywhere else and that's the one actually i'm still keeping i have that i have that 00:18:49.786 --> 00:18:56.186 50 millimeter and the n80 the n80 film camera that uh that was my cousin lauren's from more than a decade 00:18:56.186 --> 00:19:04.506 ago those two are sticking around really because aftermarket used market stuff you can probably only 00:19:04.506 --> 00:19:11.956 sell that for like 60 or 70 dollars and i think it's worth more than that i love using it all my 00:19:11.956 --> 00:19:18.456 favorite photos are shot kind of with that film set up a full frame 50 millimeter and uh and like a good 00:19:18.456 --> 00:19:25.076 film stock on a good nikon or that's great i'm super pumped for it and especially right now going 00:19:25.076 --> 00:19:31.696 through this doldrum of not actually having a full setup for a digital camera i think uh i think it's 00:19:31.696 --> 00:19:39.256 great but i sold the 28 i sold the 400 or you know the 80 to 400 millimeter i sold a 14 millimeter and 00:19:39.256 --> 00:19:45.636 i'm going to reinvest all that stuff back into sony i decided i think uh i was looking at fuji for a 00:19:45.636 --> 00:19:50.556 while i was looking at some other stuff but i really see sony and the higher end uh professional 00:19:50.556 --> 00:19:56.236 range full frame sony uh mirrorless slr is being sort of the direction that i see a lot of 00:19:56.236 --> 00:20:02.956 the the just the last couple years of photography and maybe the next couple years of photography going 00:20:02.956 --> 00:20:07.976 in in fact i would really say that sony has surprisingly taken over the photography market 00:20:09.336 --> 00:20:15.336 or at least gained a huge amount of ground during this decade from like 2011 12 on with the nex 00:20:15.336 --> 00:20:24.296 6 and 7 line and then the a 5000 and 6000 and then 6500 and all on from there all of that stuff is 00:20:24.296 --> 00:20:30.236 just just way more advanced than the old alpha line of sony equipment that had been in the past 00:20:30.236 --> 00:20:38.026 but i'm really interested in the e-mount system and the sony a7 or a7r the sony a9 that'd be really 00:20:38.026 --> 00:20:44.826 cool even though i hear the sony a9 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