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Title: Billy Newman Photo Podcast Episode 299: billynewmanphoto_podcast ep 40 - Part 3 | Scaling Social Media with Hootsuite

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<v Billy Newman>Welcome to the Billy Newman Photo Podcast. Commercial, landscape, and outdoor photography techniques, gear retrospectives, and field tutorials from the Pacific Northwest.

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<v Billy Newman>time or you know like you save it up or like you go out on a trip or you go to a spot and you get

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<v Billy Newman>to check out photos for a little bit while or for a while longer and then you can take more photos

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<v Billy Newman>that are better so we've been like carrying the filter with us for a while yeah that big stopper

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<v Billy Newman>yeah which is great and it's been really cool i like the surreal look that it gets we've had a

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<v Billy Newman>couple photos from like the last roll of film that we had developed from the waterfall stuff

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<v Billy Newman>that we did that saturday trip up to the gorge we had a few photos from that that uh that i'm

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<v Billy Newman>working on there they're pretty good but they're but i'm hoping that some of the new stuff that we

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<v Billy Newman>have on this next roll will be will be better or will look a little bit sharper a little clearer a

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<v Billy Newman>little bit more photographic yeah i'm excited to take our our new film in to get developed or these

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<v Billy Newman>last weekend was a good photo opportunity or it was nice to get out of this gray weather oh yeah

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<v Billy Newman>definitely yeah so this last saturday we took off we packed it up uh with the the camera stuff the

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<v Billy Newman>tripod the filter like we're talking about and a big thermos of hot chocolate and we took off up the

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<v Billy Newman>126 uh up the mackenzie river and traveled to i guess the top of the cascades there near like the

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<v Billy Newman>hoodoo snow park we passed that and then went down to sisters uh and what we were hoping to do was kind

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<v Billy Newman>of stop and check out the east side of the three sisters and see if we could get a cool sort of early

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<v Billy Newman>or late winter early springtime view of the mountains with snow on it you know kind of work

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<v Billy Newman>that out um but really they were just getting hit with rain and and with a lot of snow up at the pass

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<v Billy Newman>uh so we decided to head down into into sisters and then kind of head out into the eastern oregon

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<v Billy Newman>high desert area where the rain shadow of the cascades really kept a lot of that wet weather

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<v Billy Newman>that was over in eugene and portland in the william valley all that heavy rain that we drove through

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<v Billy Newman>on the way over up to the top of the mountain kept all that rain west of the cascades so east of the

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<v Billy Newman>cascades it was all really pretty dry it was cold it was windy it was sort of spitting snow or hail

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<v Billy Newman>it kind of blew up at me it seemed i'd see a lot of snow blowing up at me so it seemed like it was

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<v Billy Newman>cold and a little brisk not quite yet springtime or summer and uh but we went over we decided to

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<v Billy Newman>head over to smith rock from there so from sisters you take off and you go uh over toward the 97 and

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<v Billy Newman>hit uh redmond probably if you're if you were driving or but basically what your intent is is

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<v Billy Newman>to go up to terabon and that's the town that's closest or that's kind of surrounding or associated

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<v Billy Newman>with smith rock and uh and that's a cool spot we've been there i guess i don't know how many times

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<v Billy Newman>now maybe half a dozen or so i think that sounds about right something like that a lot of them

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<v Billy Newman>might be let's say shorter trips like what we did this weekend or sort of shrunk rated trips where

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<v Billy Newman>we don't really get to go into and explore everything but this time yeah we went over

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<v Billy Newman>to smith rock and uh we had a uh gopro with this so we were trying to kind of test that out and work

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<v Billy Newman>with it a little bit and you know kind of figure out the video stuff on it but we were trying to do

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<v Billy Newman>some test footage stuff with that over at smith rock so it was a cool spot for it park was really empty

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<v Billy Newman>essentially there were probably a dozen or so hikers but as it is like in a nice spring day in

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<v Billy Newman>a couple months when we go back to check it out again and do more hiking ourselves when it's nicer

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<v Billy Newman>we're gonna see that that whole parking lot is stuffed with people oh yeah but we were yeah down at

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<v Billy Newman>the south end and we were using or what is that no it's the north tip of like the the driving area

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<v Billy Newman>or like the uh i guess the parking the parking area that you are yeah so we went to that north tip

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<v Billy Newman>uh and you look out to the crooked river which is the one that kind of flows through

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<v Billy Newman>the the smith rock area there right as with all its little meanders being crooked um so we went out

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<v Billy Newman>to the the rim of that uh that rock there look down to the crooked river and then to like the the wall

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<v Billy Newman>of smith rock that's uh that kind of all that jagged um volcanic rock that's over there and so we set

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<v Billy Newman>the tripod up over there with the film camera i had the f4 and uh with whatever roll of film i was

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<v Billy Newman>working through and then that that tense the 10 stop uh neutral density filter to drop my shutter

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<v Billy Newman>speed down so we could do some long exposure stuff also some long exposure stuff of the mountains with

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<v Billy Newman>the clouds in the background so i'm hoping to get some cool sort of surreal sweeping cloud shapes or

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<v Billy Newman>that look you know that more surreal look that you get with those long exposures i think it'd be cool

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<v Billy Newman>so there's i don't know maybe five or six seven or so exposures of uh of using that filter in there

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<v Billy Newman>and then there's a bunch of photos that we took um walking around as the sun kind of broke out that

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<v Billy Newman>afternoon yeah as we yeah as we walked around that other side of it that was cool i think you got a

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<v Billy Newman>bunch of cool photos too yeah i think i got around like 10 photos nice from walking around do a little

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<v Billy Newman>smith rock cruise there's there's some of my favorite photos some of the stuff that i'd still

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<v Billy Newman>leave in my portfolio which what is like from what 2012 2013 some of my favorite stuff is from smith

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<v Billy Newman>rock over there it's just such a cool surreal place as like a lot of it looks really interesting yeah

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<v Billy Newman>it's cool it's a nice spot the faces of the mountain or like the view that you get just from

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<v Billy Newman>the parking area is really incredible looking and then when you actually get to hike around it it's

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<v Billy Newman>pretty great yeah it's definitely a unique geological feature that especially one that you get to walk

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<v Billy Newman>around it's really self-contained which i like a lot you can just kind of go to that park and it's

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<v Billy Newman>really not ginormous you know you can get to just about everywhere in a fairly short amount of time

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<v Billy Newman>but you can really spread out too you can hike you know you can you can travel around it's not big

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<v Billy Newman>enough though to be like a national park but man it's just such a cool sort of unknown spot it's big in

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<v Billy Newman>the sport climbing community but outside of that it just doesn't seem like people are really aware

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<v Billy Newman>that it's you know such a cool kind of interesting thing is just being a state park on the 97

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<v Billy Newman>somewhere you know yeah it's fun i'm glad it was such a fun time i remember back in like what was it

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<v Billy Newman>2002 or three when uh when we were driving through eastern organ

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<v Billy Newman>You're my

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<v Billy Newman>oh

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<v Billy Newman>you

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<v Billy Newman>interesting way that it locks his attention and stuff so it's kind of fun to use snapchat

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<v Billy Newman>but even still like posting other photos which is what i'm like most interested in right because

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<v Billy Newman>otherwise it's just like pretty boring stuff and me like i'm at a laptop i'm in my car

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<v Billy Newman>yeah yeah i'm just walking around there's a camera here's a car it's like so it just doesn't

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<v Billy Newman>seem like it's not like big stuff because like that's not like the experience of routine life

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<v Billy Newman>so i don't know it's kind of strange i like using it but i really like instagram i think for

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<v Billy Newman>all the like professional photography stuff that we're into the most right now and i really liked

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<v Billy Newman>using a lot of this well we've been posting a lot more to it i really noticed in this last year i

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<v Billy Newman>think it's been now one year since i started using hootsuite i've been using buffer i think before that

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<v Billy Newman>for a good amount of time but i think it was like right when we went to vegas last year and it's like

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<v Billy Newman>just switched over to hootsuite and i'd set up a bunch of stuff and uh yeah well we got it was

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<v Billy Newman>cool because you'd like watch it drop out and you're like oh cool wow yeah like i set all these

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<v Billy Newman>things up two weeks ago and i still have like all these messages yeah because with buffer was a big

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<v Billy Newman>pain because i wasn't it's only like 10 yeah it's limited on how many you're allowed to yeah

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<v Billy Newman>yeah yeah and uh yeah so and i jumped into it because i wanted to try and manage it more this year and

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<v Billy Newman>it's probably been the most uh i don't know what it would be like i probably posted more content or

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<v Billy Newman>more pieces of more photos this year than i had in the years past i've noticed a lot it's probably

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<v Billy Newman>been a lot in the last couple years though i think since like 2015 end of 2014 i even earlier than that

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<v Billy Newman>probably like early 2014 is when i started trying to like keep out like a handful of photos every day

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<v Billy Newman>uh so it's probably been going for a while yeah it's a bunch of pictures i'm glad that we've been

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<v Billy Newman>putting up so many photos but there's been a bunch of big breaks too where i'm just like out of stuff

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<v Billy Newman>oh man but yeah it's been like a year since i got that the photos the two photos that went out today

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<v Billy Newman>on uh through hootsuite up on a facebook out to flicker facebook all the other places we just

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<v Billy Newman>talked about especially instagram at least one of them made it uh we've got the first one it's

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<v Billy Newman>another photo from smith rock that we shot when we were hanging out with our friends on a weekend

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<v Billy Newman>trip over to central oregon earlier this year in august it was a great time we had it we had a real

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<v Billy Newman>nice trip uh hanging out in bend and then we drove up saturday morning sunday morning i think it was

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<v Billy Newman>sunday morning i think it was sunday yeah because we drove back i think we took back yeah yeah yeah yeah

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<v Billy Newman>that yeah so we did the saturday so yeah so sunday yeah we we jammed up to uh to smith rock rock we went

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<v Billy Newman>up to smith rock oregon and terabon oregon north of bend probably everybody the eight people you and

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<v Billy Newman>i who listen to this later we'll know where that is and uh yeah we cruised over to uh where our friends

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<v Billy Newman>were climbing on the like north west side of smith rock it was kind of it was a good spot it was still

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<v Billy Newman>shaded rock and that was a tough thing especially in august right now you'd probably want

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<v Billy Newman>or like as we go into winter on the dry days out there you'd probably want to have

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<v Billy Newman>some sun on the rock or some warmth out there like when i was out there in april or something

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<v Billy Newman>the year that we went and did some climbing stuff it was just like way too cold out there it's just

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<v Billy Newman>like that freezing cold so if you can get some warmth or get some sunlight on you it's like like

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<v Billy Newman>a little lizard on a rock is kind of what you feel like probably out there uh it's nice to get a

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<v Billy Newman>little bit of warmth when it's super cold but on those hot days the opposite it just like grabs

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<v Billy Newman>so much heat and you could just get like swamped way too fast so we were out in the shade on these

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<v Billy Newman>uh hot days and it's pretty i mean like anybody's climbed and i've only done a minute of it uh you

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<v Billy Newman>know that it's like super physically straining yeah it's like so strenuous it's like such a calorie

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<v Billy Newman>burner like there's so many like things that you're doing this movie and you're just like oh well i'm like

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<v Billy Newman>flushed and like burned out i'm gassed it's just a minute or two of doing it so uh so yeah we were out

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<v Billy Newman>hanging in the shade on the northwest side kind of near monkey face if you'd been out there you

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<v Billy Newman>kind of see people i think yeah we were yeah just in from it just south a monkey face uh kind of

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<v Billy Newman>climbing up on a yeah a couple what is it like top rope i think that's what it is anybody that knows

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<v Billy Newman>about rock climbing is gonna be like oh this is dumb

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<v Billy Newman>they were yeah well because there's like uh there's like top rope which i think is what this

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<v Billy Newman>is and that's sort of the sport climbing stuff yeah sport climbing might even be different but i

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<v Billy Newman>think it's where uh like you know we have that they have the rope and then like one person does

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<v Billy Newman>and you're gonna do the clip in clip in clip in every 10 15 feet or something until you get to the

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<v Billy Newman>top and then you rope in and you set up your deal hook your carabiners in there and and then yeah

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<v Billy Newman>you drop your up and then you rappel down and then uh then you uh what is it belay oh yeah the

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<v Billy Newman>person on the ground yeah up and then yeah you got them you got them hooked up from the top top rope

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<v Billy Newman>i guess yeah so uh so yeah they were setting up they were doing uh these top rope routes on the side

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<v Billy Newman>of smith it was a cool spot i don't know they probably they have at least a pretty decent amount

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<v Billy Newman>of experience i have really none out there so i don't know anything about the routes or what they

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<v Billy Newman>were how hard they were what it was like it seemed like a mid-level but it was interesting it was cool

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<v Billy Newman>yeah it was yeah it was really a pretty like straight up and down wall it was very it was very steep a lot

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<v Billy Newman>of them it's so weird how it is like the the types of holes and stuff because it's not even about like

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<v Billy Newman>how vertical it is i guess it's a big part of it but like it's like if it's two finger or if it's

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<v Billy Newman>like it's just like super small amounts or like yeah what however many like little holds there are

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<v Billy Newman>even if it's just like oh there's a couple good spots for your feet that are like really pretty sure

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<v Billy Newman>then it's like an easier route it's just straight like or if there's like spots where you can like

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<v Billy Newman>really grab on to something then it's easier or if there's a crack yeah that's like a different

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<v Billy Newman>kind of but then there's like more

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<v Billy Newman>kind of but then there's like more

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<v Billy Newman>when you get a print done because we have a nice photo printer here at home and it always looks

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<v Billy Newman>different right in the print that it does on your screen it looks a lot different yeah so there's so

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<v Billy Newman>that's a cool thing it's like in the past i mean they had the ability to put it out on slides but

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<v Billy Newman>they didn't really have the ability to put it on you know pretty nice monitors or you know or like

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<v Billy Newman>be able to work with it or edit it or you know put it up uh in a way like that and so that's why i

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<v Billy Newman>like that kind of thing a lot or like being able to use well being able to use like film scans as

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<v Billy Newman>digital files and use and just being able to send them around in the way that we can yeah and the

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<v Billy Newman>tone the tonality and the quality of it you know just looks cool it's just a little different it's

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<v Billy Newman>a little bit fun um so yeah we got our we got our roll of film shot i shot through a roll of ektar

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<v Billy Newman>and we started last friday at the uh i put i put the roll in the roll of film and i think earlier that

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<v Billy Newman>day and we went up to the tulip palooza is that right yeah that was the name of the event that we

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<v Billy Newman>went name of the event so we got in to the tulip field for free yeah so um if anybody out there is

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<v Billy Newman>in like the portland area or salem or eugene area the cool thing to do for probably this week and next

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<v Billy Newman>week i don't know how long it runs um but is uh is going to the the woodburn wooden shoe tulip farm

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<v Billy Newman>yeah it's pretty cool spot yeah so it's i think i don't know probably oh i'm gonna sneeze

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<v Billy Newman>no maybe it's gonna be i'm gonna sneeze later um but the wooden shoe tulip farm is uh is up outside

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<v Billy Newman>of woodburn it's a really cool spot i think it's probably more than five acres of just tulips and

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<v Billy Newman>so there's different patches uh that are all cultivated of a certain type or a certain color

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<v Billy Newman>tulip so this is all red tulips this is a field of mixed tulips that are yellow and red and this one's

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<v Billy Newman>all pink tulips this one's all violet tulips that sort of thing it's really cool this one's a certain

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<v Billy Newman>variation of tulip that has different types of petals at the end of the flower and it's really fun

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<v Billy Newman>so you get to walk through that whole area and check it out and if you have nice weather during

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<v Billy Newman>april like while they're blooming they stay in pretty good shape and you can get some really cool

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<v Billy Newman>photographs of them and so we were there fortunately that day after that awful monsoon weather we had

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<v Billy Newman>last thursday oh i had to be outside for that i was getting rocked around all day um and then on

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<v Billy Newman>friday all of a sudden we had a pretty nice day pretty nice weather for the day and uh we ended up

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<v Billy Newman>at the wooden shoe tulip farm and went around and shot a bunch of photos and i just put that roll

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<v Billy Newman>of ectire and so there's uh probably the first half of the roll is from uh it's from the wooden

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<v Billy Newman>shoe tulip farm where we were trying to take some photos there's some cool stuff yeah it was really

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<v Billy Newman>cool this was our uh second year going yeah we went last year we went last year in the middle of the

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<v Billy Newman>day i think on a saturday is when you and i had made it up there and then it's really busy yeah

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<v Billy Newman>tons of people come to see the tulips it gets very crowded and it's it's a very strange thing if

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<v Billy Newman>you if you like zoom in or if you zoom kind of across the tulip fields there's just a big line of

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<v Billy Newman>people through every aisle every row you know that that's out there so it's tons of people you'd

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<v Billy Newman>be surprised tons of tourists from like i don't know where yeah i don't know i must i mean it must

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<v Billy Newman>be a more popular idea of a thing to do than uh what i figured but it's cool that it's close enough

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<v Billy Newman>to us to get to we yeah we went last year and it's interesting i've kind of learned this in other

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<v Billy Newman>gardens is that they they rotate the crop around the land that they have and so last year the tulips

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<v Billy Newman>were on the south side of that road and then this year they're on the north side of the road

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<v Billy Newman>it's kind of interesting that they that was interesting i didn't yeah they moved the patch

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<v Billy Newman>around that part of uh how you do flower crops yeah i wasn't really sure that would work i think

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<v Billy Newman>it makes sense you have to like process the soil yeah you have to wait for the soil to to regain some

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<v Billy Newman>nutrients i guess yeah that's the idea so you draw from one first you know and then you fertilize it

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<v Billy Newman>the next year i guess um but yeah that's kind of cool that they're uh but it's interesting it

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<v Billy Newman>kind of changes the angles of stuff that you can shoot with or shoot against it's cool there's

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<v Billy Newman>there's a few points of view where you can see mount hood out in the background i think that

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<v Billy Newman>the crop the planting that that was out last year the location of that was a better viewing angle

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<v Billy Newman>to see mount hood and the tulips all in one yeah i think it could have been yeah i think it was i

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<v Billy Newman>think it was a little better last year it was it's it was cool this year but i don't think

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<v Billy Newman>you could really match up with the mountain as well there's probably spots though i'm sure i'm

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<v Billy Newman>wrong because i think the day that we were there it was the mountain was uh mount hood was behind

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<v Billy Newman>cloud good bit behind clouds until just the very end then we were able to able to spot it but um but

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<v Billy Newman>it's a cool it's a cool spot out there it's it's quite a few acres of it so yeah we tried to do a

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<v Billy Newman>handful of like close-up photographs of different tulips different flower pieces some backlit stuff

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<v Billy Newman>there's that big ridge of cloud that was there and so we were kind of waiting for that

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<v Billy Newman>midday light to pass behind the cloud that's the thing i'm really trying to fight more or or shooting

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<v Billy Newman>in light that you don't like yeah just yeah it's just kind of middle of the day that was some

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<v Billy Newman>flowers and you're like oh yeah that was what was hard about our our first visit to the tulip farm last

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<v Billy Newman>year is uh it was really busy like we mentioned there's a ton of people there so huge amount you

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<v Billy Newman>couldn't get a photo without really a few people yeah yeah you're pretty limited in the kinds of

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<v Billy Newman>photos that you can take yeah um yeah it's really true there's a lot of people there like well we took

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<v Billy Newman>that photograph uh like across the yellow field that was just packed with people yeah packed a ton of

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<v Billy Newman>people and so you really can't get all the shots you want and then also it's the middle of the day

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<v Billy Newman>yeah the middle of the day right and things look nice or it's very pretty day it is nice out you

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<v Billy Newman>want to be out well it's like that but for photos it's just a little too harsh a little too flat

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<v Billy Newman>yeah the lighting yeah especially i didn't get as many yeah really on the yellows

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