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NOTE Episode: Billy Newman Photo Podcast - Episode 347
NOTE Host: Billy Newman
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<v Billy Newman>Welcome to the Billy Newman Photo Podcast. Commercial, landscape, and outdoor photography techniques, gear retrospectives, and field tutorials from the Pacific Northwest.

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<v Billy Newman>with me this last week we got a couple cool film photos done it'll be fun to check them out so we

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<v Billy Newman>just got them going yeah i'm really glad we just picked up our film uh this afternoon we just picked

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<v Billy Newman>him up yeah so we uh we pulled our pulled the film out i think like i winded it uh just a couple days

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<v Billy Newman>ago it must have been oh yeah it was the other morning i was rushing off to work and i had

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<v Billy Newman>another frame it shot into the the floor but it was cooler than just the floor it was some cool

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<v Billy Newman>prints but we'll talk about that in a minute but um we uh yeah we just got our film back so i think

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<v Billy Newman>we developed two roles right yeah i got mine you have a role yeah we did a role of ektar that was

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<v Billy Newman>yours and then we had a role of i think it was fuji film that uh i got developed yeah it's gonna

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<v Billy Newman>look really good yeah i'm excited excited just gotta get a scanner working yeah we gotta get the

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<v Billy Newman>scanner up and go we tried a couple times this evening this film scanner sometimes they're a

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<v Billy Newman>little tricky i swear like did you i mean so there there was a thing way back in the day called

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<v Billy Newman>a twain driver and it was this uh driver system that would work with scanners and printers sometimes

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<v Billy Newman>but it was it was a terrible system of trying to connect peripherals to a computer that you had

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<v Billy Newman>to go through um for printers and scanners and other business devices and stuff back in the late

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<v Billy Newman>90s and early 2000s before usb and and better plug and play driver systems were set up you had to you

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<v Billy Newman>had to work with these like twain drivers that were specific to that device and it just ought to be

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<v Billy Newman>connected in the right way is a real frustrating pain a lot of the time i think it's still referred to

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<v Billy Newman>as twain yeah i think i was actually reading about that in the um a plus certification book that i have

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<v Billy Newman>yeah yeah i would talk about twain i bet a lot in that yeah and uh this these scanners they remind me

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<v Billy Newman>of that a lot they're not you know it's not as big of a company as it would be like if we're coming

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<v Billy Newman>from canon or something else so and i i don't really know how difficult it is to build in uh that sort of

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<v Billy Newman>stuff as easily but it seems like we have communication problems with a scanner more than

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<v Billy Newman>other usb devices it does seem that way yes it does uh but yeah we've been so we have it set up

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<v Billy Newman>and we'll we have the silver fast software this uh this film scanning software set up on the computer

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<v Billy Newman>that will be running it through that's what that's what a lot of the photos like if you see the

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<v Billy Newman>photographs that we're talking about on this podcast the photos that we end up um posting

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<v Billy Newman>online or like on instagram if you've seen those photos those are all

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<v Billy Newman>i think 99 are all from shooting film and developing it and then bringing the negatives home

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<v Billy Newman>and scanning it and we've we've been doing that almost full time for the last i guess year

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<v Billy Newman>and four months or so yeah i don't know you're like i've been doing it yeah i guess in 2015 i shot a lot

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<v Billy Newman>of film too most of the fun stuff or most of the photos that i really liked and held on to they ended up

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<v Billy Newman>being uh you know these photographs that were taken on film um yeah like same for me yeah there's like

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<v Billy Newman>everything up on the board you know everything in this uh stack of prints that's all i think almost

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<v Billy Newman>all film which is cool there's a lot of digital stuff in there and we should jump back in and have

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<v Billy Newman>good digital stuff going to make some bucks with it it's hard to make a lot of money that's the

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<v Billy Newman>tough thing about film is this is a business side of it it's really difficult to be lucrative

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<v Billy Newman>it seems like a lot of the photography we do is art photography you know it's put it's hopefully

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<v Billy Newman>it's at least pushed in that direction but it's not it's not something that you know ends up being

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<v Billy Newman>it's not a business product i guess yeah so and so with that you can really have a lot of leeway with film

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<v Billy Newman>and you can do a lot of interesting creative stuff with it but i think it's a lot more difficult to

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<v Billy Newman>make it lucrative what if you have to like shoot it for something more professionally

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<v Billy Newman>yeah i would think so because you tend to need to take a few shots of the same thing when you're

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<v Billy Newman>doing a job and you go through a role of film pretty fast yeah it's not that many pictures

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<v Billy Newman>maybe if you have a big role which is 36 frames i think yeah well we're fortunate to have been

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<v Billy Newman>trained up on this system pretty well like where we were working with the film camera you know it's

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<v Billy Newman>just it's simpler it's a little bit uh more refined and we have to be a little bit more concentrated

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<v Billy Newman>to the photo we take and that works out really well for for the landscape stuff that we do

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<v Billy Newman>and the the natural stuff that we do all i think that really lends itself well for working with a film

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<v Billy Newman>camera and we've been around taking photos for long enough we have a strong sense of composition and

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<v Billy Newman>we don't have to recompose as many shots i notice i know like i'm happy with a lot of the first

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<v Billy Newman>pictures i get and early on the first five years i would not have understood how to do that

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<v Billy Newman>yeah i think that's really true i've i've noticed that more about my photos or yeah especially with

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<v Billy Newman>it's really cool having a scanner and processing uh your own negatives afterwards because you

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<v Billy Newman>know your pictures more right it's kind of hard to describe but you kind of have a better sense for

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<v Billy Newman>them every picture yeah you deal with each one of them you you really work with it before you've even

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<v Billy Newman>put it into your post-processing stuff yeah and i have noticed more and more that i like most of my

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<v Billy Newman>role yeah most of the photos i like i like most of the role and and so i think that's what i'm saying

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<v Billy Newman>for us it works really well like to pick up all the things that we do and even to pick up a lot of

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<v Billy Newman>the pro things that we might do you know like like a lot of the prints i'd want to make those are film

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<v Billy Newman>photographs

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<v Billy Newman>photographs

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<v Billy Newman>I'm able to make adjustments and develop, you know, just development adjustments to the photograph and edits to improve the photograph and then export the photograph either to a print or to something else that I want it to go to.

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<v Billy Newman>And since a lot of the work goes to my website or to the web or to social media, that's what I want it to be ready for.

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<v Billy Newman>And I think that this is a really good digital alternative to analog film photography is shoot on film and then go straight to digital.

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<v Billy Newman>It's sort of the pattern that I have, which is not unique by any means, but my hope is that it's at least developed.

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<v Billy Newman>You know, it's maybe developed is a confusing word when you're talking about film photographs, but it's, you know, it's just a complete or a well thought through or at least thought through method of taking pictures and putting them together.

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<v Billy Newman>And I think that, you know, they come out with a little bit of a more creative, interesting edge to it.

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<v Billy Newman>I think that I'm a little bit more patient, a little more focused with it.

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<v Billy Newman>And so almost exclusively now, everything's on film.

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<v Billy Newman>And now that doesn't make me too much of the stereotypical Oregon hipster, young, mid 20 somethings photographer that is out right now.

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<v Billy Newman>But I know really in my heart, in every way, it does make me that, which I suppose I can survive.

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<v Billy Newman>So website update, billyneimanphoto.com is underway.

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<v Billy Newman>I'm doing a redevelopment of that, that page and it's been working really well right now.

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<v Billy Newman>The host, the hosting through, uh, well, it's, it's built on Squarespace right now, which I've been really happy with for a few years.

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<v Billy Newman>But now I'm going to switch over to a more flexible system that I have in WordPress.

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<v Billy Newman>Um, and I think the WordPress system is just a little bit more of the direction of the industry, the internet, my future, you know, having ability to develop for WordPress is probably going to be a bit brighter, a bit more useful for me than, uh, in Squarespace's.

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<v Billy Newman>But at the end of the day, it's just an arbitrary decision of what service program format works better for now or for the time.

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<v Billy Newman>In a few years, if something else cool comes out and Drupal ends up being useful or easy to use, it's useful already.

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<v Billy Newman>I know, uh, maybe it'll go to that, but I don't see a real huge, great reason for that to happen.

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<v Billy Newman>I think for publishing sites or for, for static, uh, posts where, you know, there's not a huge amount of backend infrastructure stuff that has to occur.

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<v Billy Newman>I think the WordPress is really the way to go, uh, in that way.

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<v Billy Newman>So if you don't know WordPress out there, I take a little bit of time and try and try and learn the software or just learn that the user interface of the, the content management system on the backend of WordPress and probably won't go away very soon.

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<v Billy Newman>So I think it'll probably be pretty important for folks to, you know, try and have at least some kind of basic handle of.

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<v Billy Newman>So I'm getting a kayak this week and I'm trying to figure out or develop, uh, some photograph ideas for, uh, for going kayaking and really outside of photography, I think just like capturing adventure is cool.

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<v Billy Newman>Um, and so I think that they're going out on a kayak, trying to explore, uh, a lot of these, these lakes out here, which I've been to, but haven't been out on at least consistently.

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<v Billy Newman>Um, I'm going to try and try and get that done as a, uh, a summer hobby.

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<v Billy Newman>So it doesn't sound like, uh, the worst kind of work, get off work from taking pictures, grab the kayak on top of the forerunner and jet out to one of these nearby lakes, paddle around for a couple hours before sunset and then come back home.

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<v Billy Newman>Um, so I think I get used to that as a, uh, afternoon, evening hobby of mine this summer.

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<v Billy Newman>Um, especially for as kickback as, as things can be.

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<v Billy Newman>So that's going to be pretty exciting.

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<v Billy Newman>Looking forward to that.

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<v Billy Newman>Hopefully I'll have some comments about that or some photographs to share next week on the Billy Newman photo podcast.

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<v Billy Newman>And I might even try to do a couple more of these than one a week, but we're at 15 minutes.

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<v Billy Newman>Thank you guys very much.

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<v Billy Newman>Uh, if you bothered to check this out on the billynewmanphoto.com website, there's more information and photographs.

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<v Billy Newman>There's more photographs available there to check out.

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<v Billy Newman>Hope you guys do get a chance to.

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<v Billy Newman>Again, my name is Billy Newman.

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<v Billy Newman>Hope you guys have a great day.

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<v Billy Newman>Thank you.

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<v Billy Newman>No, it was like a Fuji Roll, a 400-speed film.

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<v Billy Newman>Both of them are.

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<v Billy Newman>I think yours was too, which is just pretty run-of-the-mill film.

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<v Billy Newman>We should get some sweet film if we're into film so much.

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<v Billy Newman>We should podcast about film.

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<v Billy Newman>We should probably get something more specific with our film.

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<v Billy Newman>Yeah, we should probably buy some cooler film that we can scan

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<v Billy Newman>and be like, oh, yeah, it's this really cool film.

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<v Billy Newman>I got that film.

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<v Billy Newman>But I really like those different film stocks that we used.

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<v Billy Newman>It's fun.

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<v Billy Newman>It's cool.

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<v Billy Newman>They often do look a little bit better.

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<v Billy Newman>So I should probably do that.

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<v Billy Newman>But I think the early stuff on my roll of film is like from Smith Rock

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<v Billy Newman>when we did that weekend trip over there.

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<v Billy Newman>It was still a little too early to really get into the state park stuff there

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<v Billy Newman>because the seasons really hadn't flipped.

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<v Billy Newman>Yeah, there was like snow blowing around.

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<v Billy Newman>It was a fun time.

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<v Billy Newman>It was cool to go over there.

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<v Billy Newman>But it was a pretty rough weekend up in the Cascades

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<v Billy Newman>when we were driving through there and we made a couple pullovers.

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<v Billy Newman>But, yeah, we were down to like 10 miles an hour.

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<v Billy Newman>Behind that semi, it was trying to kind of creep down.

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<v Billy Newman>That was pretty slow.

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<v Billy Newman>Oh, man, yeah.

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<v Billy Newman>It's a scary pass.

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<v Billy Newman>It was bad to be going slow.

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<v Billy Newman>Yeah, it's a rough little spot.

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<v Billy Newman>I'm surprised people can zoom through there so fast.

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<v Billy Newman>They must get used to it.

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<v Billy Newman>I'm not.

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<v Billy Newman>But, yeah, early stuff from Smith Rock.

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<v Billy Newman>So that's kind of like second weekend of March kind of stuff.

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<v Billy Newman>So we finished that roll and then we threw in another one

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<v Billy Newman>and we pushed through that one pretty quickly

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<v Billy Newman>because I think we did Smith Rock.

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<v Billy Newman>There's a few other like pieces through March

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<v Billy Newman>that we'll probably get into once we get it developed.

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<v Billy Newman>There's a flower stuff that we shot that we're trying to do,

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<v Billy Newman>like all the new flowers that are blooming during the spring.

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<v Billy Newman>Yeah, I want to try and do some cool close-up photos

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<v Billy Newman>of each of the varieties of new blooms

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<v Billy Newman>that we're running across on our walks and stuff that we're doing.

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<v Billy Newman>That'd be cool.

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<v Billy Newman>I want to keep doing that.

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<v Billy Newman>There are a lot of flowers out right now.

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<v Billy Newman>That's why we should go get some cool films.

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<v Billy Newman>We should get like a couple of Ektar rolls when we stop off.

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<v Billy Newman>Yeah, hopefully they can throw you some bucks.

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<v Billy Newman>Then we should go over to like Dot Dotson's when we pick up the film.

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<v Billy Newman>Yeah.

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<v Billy Newman>Pick up the developed film.

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<v Billy Newman>Yeah, pay for the rolls.

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<v Billy Newman>Pay for that.

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<v Billy Newman>And then, yeah, pick up like a couple of Ektar rolls

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<v Billy Newman>or something that we can put on our cameras.

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<v Billy Newman>Yeah, that'd be really cool.

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<v Billy Newman>Do some cool little flower project.

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<v Billy Newman>Floral photos.

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<v Billy Newman>I don't know what film would be best for it.

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<v Billy Newman>I think Portra would look really cool and like soft.

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<v Billy Newman>That'd be kind of fun.

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<v Billy Newman>Yeah, it would probably be a pretty one.

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<v Billy Newman>Yeah, if you'd want to do something like that.

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<v Billy Newman>I think the, I don't know,

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<v Billy Newman>there's probably a couple of different types that'd be cool,

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<v Billy Newman>but we should try and see what they have.

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<v Billy Newman>They might have a couple of good different types of stock

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<v Billy Newman>that we don't have much access to.

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<v Billy Newman>Yeah, I've never really worked with any of them.

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<v Billy Newman>Portra and Ektar that are nice, special films.

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<v Billy Newman>Yeah, that's kind of what you have access to nowadays.

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<v Billy Newman>Really, Kodak is one of the last.

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<v Billy Newman>This is kind of the frightening thing about, you know,

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<v Billy Newman>our interest in doing this throwback thing called film

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<v Billy Newman>is like Kodak is one of the last companies.

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