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Title: Get Out There Podcast Episode 22: Wet Weather Clothing Kit Guide & Gear Swaps and Insulated Bottles

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<v Billy Newman>Welcome to the Get Out There Podcast. Outdoor exploration, backcountry camping, public land adventures, and river guide stories.

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<v Billy Newman>kind of put that on like all the time it's kind of quick to come off in warmer weather but man

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<v Billy Newman>on like colder days it's like a great one to have as the base layer and great in the sleeping bag too

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<v Billy Newman>you know you just keep that on like 24 hours a day and just kind of kind of roll into the next

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<v Billy Newman>the next day's outfit or you know re-layer up and stuff but that wool has been great but I'm kind

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<v Billy Newman>of trying to stay away from like the Under Armour synthetic stuff but the Under Armour pants that I

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<v Billy Newman>picked up are like are great they're like a cool pair of like I don't know just like nylon sort of

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<v Billy Newman>soft shell material cargo pants that I picked up at a really inexpensive price and a lot of time

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<v Billy Newman>like if you go to REI or something you're looking at like 80 or 90 bucks like those Paramount pants I

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<v Billy Newman>was talking about or whatever Patagonia option or what is it like cool or what I don't know I can't

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<v Billy Newman>remember even the other pair of pants but I don't know there's a few different options I was looking

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<v Billy Newman>at including like first lights and stuff too and there's a few of those that I'm interested in but

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<v Billy Newman>maybe probably not yet I'm not really dealing with any of the heavy snow stuff like like some of those

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<v Billy Newman>like snow pants are getting you geared up for but other stuff on the list breathable rain shell

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<v Billy Newman>pants that's that's one that is always super useful the the breathable rain shell and man that

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<v Billy Newman>like cortex is probably what I use a lot there's also a whole bunch of treated nylon now or like

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<v Billy Newman>certain types of nylon that are specifically like really breathable for moisture so you don't get

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<v Billy Newman>like that kind of damp sort of greenhouse effect where you get the condensation starting to load up

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<v Billy Newman>and that's sort of the difficulty you get even with like rain ponchos and stuff as you start to like

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<v Billy Newman>sweat on the inside and it's not able to breathe out so that can actually cause some problems but if

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<v Billy Newman>you have like a breathable set of nylon or uh nylon cortex pants you're able to kind of stay windproof

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<v Billy Newman>and rainproof out there and mine work okay I don't really think they're rainproof actually you know

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<v Billy Newman>I think they're just kind of nylon so that's kind of how it goes for upper body merino t-shirt like

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<v Billy Newman>I was saying I wear that all the time merino uh like long sleeved hoodie base layer I've been wearing

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<v Billy Newman>that all the time that's like that first light layer that I was talking about that hoodie

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<v Billy Newman>fantastic use that all the time um a soft shell jacket I keep all this stuff in like a duffel bag

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<v Billy Newman>I keep all these layers in there and then I kind of try and pull them out and cycle through them as

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<v Billy Newman>I need them or they'll be in uh like a compression sack in my backpack if I'm doing um like a

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<v Billy Newman>backpacking trip and I have everything on my backpack or I'll keep a one of the layers in my

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<v Billy Newman>camera bag on the side if I'm carrying that too that was often how I'd do it like when I was working

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<v Billy Newman>is I'd have like uh kind of like you know my kit my kind of comfortable operating kit and then I'd have

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<v Billy Newman>one of my layers a sort of a hot swap layer I take off the puffy layer and put it in the camera bag

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<v Billy Newman>um and then kind of keep it there for a while if I was kind of moving and then when I'd stop and start

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<v Billy Newman>to cool down before I did that or before I got cold I'd throw the puffy layer back on and then

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<v Billy Newman>zip that up underneath my Gore-Tex layer so that it kind of insulates me and keeps that heat in and

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<v Billy Newman>stuff and that worked out as a pretty good system just kind of hot swapping layers to the day

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<v Billy Newman>but uh but yeah having that um soft shell layer is cool then having a synthetic or a uh a down

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<v Billy Newman>puffy jacket is is really cool I think that's helped me a ton uh and it's super super great to have that

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<v Billy Newman>insulation but it really works best when it's paired with that shell layer so you get like kind

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<v Billy Newman>of that windproof rainproof layer that kind of helps hold in all the heat that you get to keep by that

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<v Billy Newman>that kind of dense puffy down layer uh in between the wool that you have too so you have the wool

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<v Billy Newman>working for you you have the puffy down insulating you and then you have that Gore-Tex shell layer on

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<v Billy Newman>the outside as like a windproof stop and it's also able to hold in a lot of that heat from the puffy

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<v Billy Newman>layers on the inside too and that has helped me out a ton I've been able to to stay pretty comfortable

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<v Billy Newman>in most uh most kind of temperate climates really like none of it's below 20 degrees it's probably

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<v Billy Newman>like 25 degrees and even at 25 I'm trying to move around pretty pretty actively I've got like wool

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<v Billy Newman>socks on at that temp I'm definitely probably if I'm slowed down which is really how it is with

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<v Billy Newman>photography stuff a lot like I'm trying to use hot hands anything below like 42 you know like like

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<v Billy Newman>the low 40s and like I'm already starting to get pretty cold like my hands if they're exposed are

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<v Billy Newman>pretty cold and achy and stuff and so um so yeah I have like a pack of those you know like one of

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<v Billy Newman>those bigger bulk packs of hot hands that I try and try and run and I'll open up two of those put

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<v Billy Newman>them in my pockets and you kind of shake them up a little bit first so that they're activated but

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<v Billy Newman>having those and running those to get your hands hot so that they're kind of uh loosened up and

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<v Billy Newman>flexible when you're using the camera hitting the buttons taking pictures and stuff especially in the

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<v Billy Newman>rain or in like uh that cold rain when the water is like cold and icy on your hands and stuff man

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<v Billy Newman>too much it can be too much and yeah those cold temperatures can really uh can wipe me out pretty

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<v Billy Newman>quick so yeah layering up with uh some of the stuff that I was talking about it seems to help out

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<v Billy Newman>pretty good so hands and head um I got my mask with me all the time that's normally in the truck but

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<v Billy Newman>I've also got like a gaiter around my neck a lot or you know one of those buffs and so I know they

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<v Billy Newman>say those almost do nothing I mean uh you know surprise but I have one of those uh gaiters around

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<v Billy Newman>my neck all the time and at least for like cold weather stuff instead of a scarf it works really

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<v Billy Newman>well to kind of insulate uh insulate that gap of uh of my head to my neck there as it kind of goes

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<v Billy Newman>down into my jacket so that opening there it really helps to have even just like a light piece

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<v Billy Newman>insulation kind of covering from your shirt to your neck so that you kind of have that that section

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<v Billy Newman>covered and sort of uh protected from losing heat or escaping heat from uh the vent there but it's

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<v Billy Newman>also nice to kind of open up too when you start to get too hot um and then uh yeah I try and bring

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<v Billy Newman>like um a beanie cap with me all the time so that I can kind of pull my hair back out of the way

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<v Billy Newman>and then have my head up underneath it for the cold weather stuff and then I also have a baseball cap

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<v Billy Newman>for like the sunny weather stuff and especially like for midday stuff I notice the baseball cap

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<v Billy Newman>having that that uh that duck bill for shade really helps out uh for a lot of the stuff that I'm trying

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<v Billy Newman>to do or you know kind of for visualizing stuff and looking around and looking out and stuff um so I

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<v Billy Newman>try and have um have one of those duck build um build hats with me and that helps out with a lot of

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<v Billy Newman>the the photo stuff I have to flip it around a lot though you know you go down to the camera and you

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<v Billy Newman>always kind of like bonk the bill of the hat to the top of the piece of the camera there and stuff

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<v Billy Newman>it happens a lot but uh I don't know I bring around a pair of sunglasses sometimes when I backpack and

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<v Billy Newman>I do it but really sometimes not I try and bring like polarized sunglasses so I can use them if

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<v Billy Newman>I'm fishing or I can use them like look in the water and stuff

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<v Billy Newman>to go out to i've seen plenty of pictures of it i was driving on my way out there in the camry kind

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<v Billy Newman>of taking our time and the road got rough enough at just this type of grade where it was sort of

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<v Billy Newman>sloped and rounded off as it kind of lifted i don't know maybe five or six feet but the angle

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<v Billy Newman>of lift that it was in the road was sharp enough that i couldn't get the camry over it without

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<v Billy Newman>high centering the vehicle on that slope as it rounded off really frustrated by uh by how that

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<v Billy Newman>worked if i just had like a little bit more clearance i could have hopped over that with

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<v Billy Newman>no problem trucks and stuff they move over that without ever even really thinking about that as an

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<v Billy Newman>issue but i'm sure smaller sedans have kind of clipped their uh their differentials and stuff

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<v Billy Newman>on those uh kind of high center points a bunch of different times in the past and so it was weird

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<v Billy Newman>yeah i was i was there i was looking at it i was i was assessing it in the car and i was thinking man

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<v Billy Newman>there's no way or angle i can get this car kind of to creep around the side of this this piece here

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<v Billy Newman>to get over it so that i can i can get to the other side and we were so far out you know it just

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<v Billy Newman>would have been terrible to puncture something or mess something up in the car so we didn't get to

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<v Billy Newman>go it was terrible but as we were out there we saw like a family of uh you know like five quads

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<v Billy Newman>that kind of came through in a little group and they just kind of hopped right over and zoomed right

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<v Billy Newman>past us without ever kind of a thought of it as a problem that would be sort of a trip ender if

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<v Billy Newman>you're going out there so it was a it's cool to use the camry to use kind of a smaller car like

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<v Billy Newman>that it's also you know the same as like people using a van or something like that vans aren't really

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<v Billy Newman>like set up to do four-wheel drive uh off-road kind of carry stuff but they are really great at

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<v Billy Newman>getting you set up in a parking lot of a state serviced area that or you know natural trailhead

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<v Billy Newman>area that you can go out to and you can have your gear pretty well securely set up inside you can

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<v Billy Newman>sleep inside when you want to and for the people that are doing like the van life sort of dirt bag

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<v Billy Newman>style stuff i think dirt bag comes from a kind of colloquial term of the the bag of chalk that rock

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<v Billy Newman>climbers would carry if that sort of makes sense uh i remember that as being kind of one of the

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<v Billy Newman>expressions of is uh someone that was a uh a rock climber that would go to different sport climbing

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<v Billy Newman>sites and set up their gear and the ropes and then do climbs at you know smith rock or yosemite or

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<v Billy Newman>wherever other places and in uh california where that's uh sort of come into swing but it's cool

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<v Billy Newman>that that's a i don't know an avenue out there and stuff but uh but yeah i've preferred the truck

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<v Billy Newman>and the canopy system and stuff for a while i appreciated having like the four runner for a

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<v Billy Newman>while but i really appreciate having the the oh i guess a little bit more full size of a truck

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<v Billy Newman>that's uh still compact enough that you can kind of get over stuff and get in and out of tight spots

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<v Billy Newman>pretty easily um so it's kind of cool and i don't really tow a lot of stuff or or move a lot of other

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<v Billy Newman>stuff around when i was uh doing some work before with a bunch of um recreational vehicles i remember

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<v Billy Newman>part of the the task was to do some photo and video projects uh with some motor homes and like

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<v Billy Newman>fifth wheels and trucks and trailers and uh those are kind of tricky because as i kind of started to

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<v Billy Newman>find out like when they wanted to do i think they wanted to do some marketing stuff around that and

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<v Billy Newman>like a ski resort and so we had to go out and do some sort of snow photos around the ski resort

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<v Billy Newman>and i remember the drivers kind of looking at me like you know none of these vehicles are really

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<v Billy Newman>designed to be off-road or not even off-road but just like out in any form of snow or slickness or

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<v Billy Newman>slush at all like it's really kind of set up to be sort of a dry weather driving vehicle a lot of

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<v Billy Newman>times i don't know what people in the midwest or or northeast would say about that to have rvs and

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<v Billy Newman>fifth wheels but also have to deal with sort of the inclement weather of winter a lot of the time

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<v Billy Newman>and i wonder if the winterizing of those kind of things are a little bit different and i figure as

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<v Billy Newman>i've always heard from people you know they they drive their their two-wheel drive cars around and

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<v Billy Newman>six inches of fresh snow all the time or packed snow or whatever it is but they seem to kind of

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<v Billy Newman>still travel around through the winter way more than i'd ever feel comfortable doing um but yeah

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<v Billy Newman>this driver that i was with he was like uh i don't know it's maybe an inch or so of snow on a paved

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<v Billy Newman>road that was kind of going out to a little a little turnaround spot on a forest road and in the

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<v Billy Newman>summertime it'd be nothing you know just be kind of packed with people going swimming and stuff but

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<v Billy Newman>in the winter yeah it was a it was a snow-covered road and that driver did not want to be on there

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<v Billy Newman>with any kind of trailer or truck or anything you know even with like a powerful truck or whatever

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<v Billy Newman>it is it's just kind of like a weird kind of slick thing it's really heavy stuff moving on ice it's

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<v Billy Newman>just never really um as secure or as good of an idea as uh as what i'd want to try and commit to

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<v Billy Newman>do and so that's kind of why like i'm really not that into um trying to carry or trying to tow any big

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<v Billy Newman>stuff i think it'd be cool though i guess like uh like a couple of my friends and stuff and sort of

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<v Billy Newman>when i was doing the the raft guide stuff when i was doing the photography work for them a lot of

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<v Billy Newman>their transport equipment was you know vans with trailers that would carry their river equipment

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<v Billy Newman>down to the river and back so i could probably understand doing something more like that if i was

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<v Billy Newman>carrying a boat there's like a smoke craft boat that i want to take out um to this lake nearby

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<v Billy Newman>and i think that'd be pretty cool it's it's a pretty cool like i think three seat but it could

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<v Billy Newman>probably fit five people in it um sort of smoke craft fishing boat that i want to take out to a lake

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<v Billy Newman>around here sometime and uh and do some fishing and that you know would require like a trailer and

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<v Billy Newman>it would require tone it out there and stuff and i guess that's kind of different it's still sort of

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<v Billy Newman>uh uh i don't know i guess more local travel you know you're not really trying to do like a van

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<v Billy Newman>life road trip expedition that uh some of the people in these fifth wheels that are doing long

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<v Billy Newman>term and i think a lot of the time you know fifth wheels and campers and stuff they're they're sort

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<v Billy Newman>of doing a um i guess it would be an rv park style trip which is sort of the opposite of some

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<v Billy Newman>of the stuff that i'd be trying to do where uh where i'm trying to to stay more strictly in the

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<v Billy Newman>blm or national forest service land where you can camp for free or you can camp in a more

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<v Billy Newman>dispersed way and you can also kind of uh do some more of the wilderness experience stuff that i'm

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<v Billy Newman>talking about and mostly more interested in but there is a lot of road accessible stuff even the

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<v Billy Newman>spot that i'm at right now i mean you know it's a i'm right on a road i'm at my truck right now and

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<v Billy Newman>i'm looking out at a at a pond directly in front of me that's that's filled up with canadian

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<v Billy Newman>geese and egrets and and goose and stuff so it's really cool i'm just going to hop over and get

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<v Billy Newman>access to this kind of stuff without having to travel

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<v Billy Newman>you

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<v Billy Newman>you

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<v Billy Newman>you

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<v Billy Newman>you

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<v Robert Biscourette>Today we're talking about, I guess, I don't know, just a couple of silly things, but we're talking

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<v Robert Biscourette>about, it's hot weather season now. It's coming into summertime. We picked up like hydro flasks

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<v Robert Biscourette>a while ago, and these have like really changed, I guess, the way that we carry around water.

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<v Robert Biscourette>Like for the last 10 years, it was probably the fashionable item to have in the outdoor community

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<v Robert Biscourette>to have a Nalgene bottle. And I'm late to the party, of course, in reporting this news that

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<v Robert Biscourette>vacuum sealed insulated bottles are cool to have your water in. I think hydro flask broke that

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<v Robert Biscourette>news to REI and the outdoor community a few years before I'm now bringing it to you, but we got

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<v Robert Biscourette>them right now. Yeah, they're awesome. Yeah, the hydro flask bottles are definitely really cool,

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<v Robert Biscourette>but really any of those insulated water bottles are pretty neat. And I think that's like one of

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<v Robert Biscourette>the bigger like gear revolutions that have happened in this decade is probably the LED light. That's

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<v Robert Biscourette>like the light, bright white LED replacing like the battery operated bulbs and stuff for a lot

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<v Robert Biscourette>of the stuff before. But that's like the more the most modern revolution is probably that LED light,

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<v Robert Biscourette>maybe like some of the building materials they have for like the outdoor equipment. But man,

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<v Robert Biscourette>like insulated vacuum sealed bottles for cold water when you're traveling. That's probably like

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<v Robert Biscourette>the other big one that we've gotten this year. Yeah, it makes a huge difference. Even though Stanley

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<v Robert Biscourette>had this around for like 50 years, that was only for coffee. So my friend Robert, who's done this

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<v Robert Biscourette>podcast a bunch of times, he called me and I missed the call. And he called me and I missed the call.

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<v Robert Biscourette>And he called me again, and I missed the call. And he called me later. And he said, he said,

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<v Robert Biscourette>Billy, I was at this gear swap. It's that time of year. And so I guess a bunch of people that do like

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<v Robert Biscourette>outdoor recreation river stuff, if they have like kayaks or rafts or stuff that they want or don't

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<v Robert Biscourette>want anymore, they have like organized gear swap. So I was going to say, if you're in an area,

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<v Robert Biscourette>look around to see if this June before the season really gets up off the ground,

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<v Robert Biscourette>if there's a gear swap happening in your area, because you might be able to score a cool,

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<v Robert Biscourette>a cool deal on like a really cheap boat or raft or kayak or something. Robert, my friend,

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<v Robert Biscourette>like he, I think he sold or he like traded out his kayak or his raft. I think he had like a big,

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<v Robert Biscourette>like 18 foot river raft that was like shy. It was like from the eighties or something. It had seen

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<v Robert Biscourette>plenty of trips. I'm sure he ended up like trading that one out. And then buying a new to him,

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<v Robert Biscourette>new used one at this gear swap. And I guess he made out really well, uh, you know, by the purchase

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<v Robert Biscourette>of it and, and, you know, everybody got what they wanted. They get to sell the raft and Robert got

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<v Robert Biscourette>to buy a raft. He was calling me cause we were looking for kayaks. Those inflatable ones. We

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<v Robert Biscourette>wanted to get like an inflatable kayak to take out and travel with it. So I don't know, it was a cool

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<v Robert Biscourette>idea, but, uh, he was saying they're great deals off.

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<v Robert Biscourette>So I'm sorry.

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<v Robert Biscourette>So.

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<v Robert Biscourette>So.

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