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Title: Get Out There Podcast Episode 23: Capturing Landscape B-Roll in Early Light & Planning Field Recordings and Growth

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<v Billy Newman>Welcome to the Get Out There Podcast. Outdoor exploration, backcountry camping, public land adventures, and river guide stories.

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<v Billy Newman>work that i've been doing around recording video clips it's been going kind of well through uh

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<v Billy Newman>part of october and what i've been trying to do is uh for like the early mornings and well yeah

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<v Billy Newman>like plenty of times in the afternoon and stuff too but while i've been out on like uh some

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<v Billy Newman>traveling stuff and while i've been kind of just kind of heading out of the house early in the day

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<v Billy Newman>to kind of head out and do some photo stuff or some outdoors stuff what i'm trying to do is stop

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<v Billy Newman>in places that i go off and are stopping places that have like landscape scenes and get long b-roll

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<v Billy Newman>clips of video and what i'm kind of trying to do is get a i haven't really done this before it's kind

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<v Billy Newman>of silly but um but like you know there's all the places maybe i'd go take a photograph of what i'd

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<v Billy Newman>like to do is sort of uh get a long clip of video in most of those locations too i sort of did something

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<v Billy Newman>kind of like this with the 360 cameras when i had those for a couple weeks uh i think that's maybe

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<v Billy Newman>like a little more than two years ago now when i was first working with the uh the 360 fusion camera

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<v Billy Newman>we'd pop over to the coast up to the cascades to crater lake to some of the desert uh spots that you

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<v Billy Newman>can go to like fort rock or smith rock um so that was kind of cool getting it to check that out

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<v Billy Newman>and make some videos in those uh those areas out there uh but what i want to do is something

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<v Billy Newman>kind of similar to that uh to make sort of a set of b-roll videos from a bunch of these different

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<v Billy Newman>landscape locations either around here in the willamette valley or what i've been working on

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<v Billy Newman>while i've been camping is a bunch of stuff like out in eastern oregon toward the desert and there's a

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<v Billy Newman>lot of cool views out there that people you know i guess normally don't get to see it they're kind

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<v Billy Newman>of staying more on the high five corridor in the the portland uh willamette valley area uh so it's

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<v Billy Newman>cool yeah getting to go out and try and get some video clips and stuff i've been trying to get a lot

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<v Billy Newman>while i've been going out into the coastal range like i was talking about last week doing some

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<v Billy Newman>chanterelle picking and stuff so i've been trying to get some some longer kind of uh just like set up

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<v Billy Newman>video clips of that some stuff of me like moving around and uh you know sort of doing like i don't

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<v Billy Newman>know environmental setup stuff for b-roll for some other more personal stuff but uh but yeah kind of

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<v Billy Newman>like trying to to just be at the camera you know in the chair sort of and set up the shot get it ready

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<v Billy Newman>to go on a tripod have the scene laid out in front of me and then just get like a long

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<v Billy Newman>capture of what was going on in that location and just sort of how things move around for a

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<v Billy Newman>couple minutes so that's kind of cool like i like kind of kind of doing that and it's been

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<v Billy Newman>pretty easy especially like if you're getting up early you can get kind of pre-dawn light you know

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<v Billy Newman>you get that early blue hour stuff you can see a lot of the uh you like you can see venus up in the sky

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<v Billy Newman>at least while it was clear a lot of the mornings it's been like a little cloudy or a little like

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<v Billy Newman>mixed in the weather and stuff which is also pretty interesting and i kind of like getting some

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<v Billy Newman>clips of that too because i don't really have many photos or many clips of that so i'm kind of

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<v Billy Newman>clips and photos and it's really difficult too sometimes when you want to be capturing

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<v Billy Newman>some of both you know you want to be shooting photographs but also have like a couple videos

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<v Billy Newman>going at the same time so that's why i'm kind of trying to use a few cameras to be capturing

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<v Billy Newman>some kind of form of video for this it doesn't really have to be like the the most perfect file

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<v Billy Newman>for a video so it's really okay if it comes from a good cell phone shot that's set up on a tripod

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<v Billy Newman>for a long period of time capturing the color well i can edit that mp4 into something just as well

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<v Billy Newman>you know five minutes of that into uh you know just a quick clip of that into some kind of document i'm

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<v Billy Newman>trying to use too so if it means i can use my camera and be shooting and then also have uh like

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<v Billy Newman>a phone or you know some other kind of tool set up with a camera or you know video going then i can

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<v Billy Newman>capture that also and then kind of switch back and forth between my camera shooting video also so i get

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<v Billy Newman>it to be like a little bit efficient of uh record like or get a couple things going on tripods all

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<v Billy Newman>at once and then sort of just get to focus on the type of photography stuff that i want to be doing

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<v Billy Newman>at that time so that's kind of a cool way to do it where you can you can kind of that's a difficult

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<v Billy Newman>thing about like long exposures or about like video clips on tripods is uh once it's going you

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<v Billy Newman>have to kind of wait for a while for that to resolve or for it to finish or you know for you to

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<v Billy Newman>record it so it really just occupies a lot more time and uh what's kind of cool about trying to get

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<v Billy Newman>some of the the small efficiencies out of it is if you have a couple cameras or another dslr that's

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<v Billy Newman>able to shoot video and you have the lenses for it or you have a another like an old iphone that still

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<v Billy Newman>shoots uh you know quality hd um i just clip that into a tripod and then i'm able to run that i can

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<v Billy Newman>run a time lapse with it or i can just capture the raw video and then run that into a time lapse later

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<v Billy Newman>which is sort of what i'm doing with the clips that i'm capturing with the 5d too is if i get a what

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<v Billy Newman>i'm trying to do is set up like some spots where there's like some clouds that are moving over an

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<v Billy Newman>open valley and what i'm trying to do is uh get like a long clip of that so that i can stitch that

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<v Billy Newman>together a half hour maybe an hour if i can capture that much and then i'm trying to uh run that through

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<v Billy Newman>and speed it up so that you get like kind of a time lapse motion where you see the shape and the

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<v Billy Newman>movement of the clouds as they sort of move and evaporate over the top of the valley i think that's

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<v Billy Newman>really cool i like those shots and i've done a few of them in the past and it's a nice time of year

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<v Billy Newman>right now when the weather's sort of right for it depends on your location and landscape position but

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<v Billy Newman>it's cool yeah you can kind of set it up when it's sort of partly cloudy and get a big view of the

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<v Billy Newman>motion and sweep of the clouds as they kind of move across the sky and it's always really dramatic when

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<v Billy Newman>you uh when you increase the speed of uh of the flow of that and stuff so uh those those are kind of

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<v Billy Newman>tricky shots sometimes too because like just little things could kind of mess it up or you know make it

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<v Billy Newman>uh sort of a more sloppy shot you know maybe if i know something bumps the tripod or uh there's uh

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<v Billy Newman>some sort of distracting movement you know in the foreground of the image when really you kind of

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<v Billy Newman>just want to be seeing sort of you know more still landscape and kind of the illusion of the clouds

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<v Billy Newman>moving quickly um so there's just kind of little things that kind of make them a little bit more

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<v Billy Newman>clumsy they're viewable and still fine and probably fine for what i'm going to do but i'm kind of

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<v Billy Newman>trying to like figure out you know just to make some more photographically styled frames as i'm

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<v Billy Newman>recording the video sort of i'm trying to go forward with it

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<v Billy Newman>Um, but it's, uh, yeah, it's kind of fun going around, checking out stuff and, uh, trying to

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<v Billy Newman>do some scouting for that. It's cool though. You know, one thing I've kind of recognized over the

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<v Billy Newman>years is, uh, it's really tough to like, just go out into an area that you don't really know very

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<v Billy Newman>well and try and find a good campsite. And that's why I've, I've kind of started, um, well, that's

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<v Billy Newman>really a, definitely a big reason why I've tried to start making like a little catalog of locations

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<v Billy Newman>of good campsites I find while I pass them. Um, but also I've been trying to notice that, uh,

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<v Billy Newman>some spots are going to be better than others for different times of the year. So I've been

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<v Billy Newman>really trying to do a lot of like off season scouting where at different times of the year,

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<v Billy Newman>when maybe even I'm not on a camping trip, I'm able to, uh, kind of scout out a couple of different

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<v Billy Newman>areas and mark some locations, or at least like write down and remember that there's a location

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<v Billy Newman>that I want to go back to, but that helps a lot when you're trying to go out to a campsite or to

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<v Billy Newman>a camping area or when your circumstances change. Like a lot of time I'm camping by myself, but it's

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<v Billy Newman>kind of cool to remember locations that are a little bigger or something, or have a little

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<v Billy Newman>bit, a little bit more of a ease of access. If you're going with like a group of people,

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<v Billy Newman>that's a little larger and you want to accommodate a couple of different cars or a couple of different

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<v Billy Newman>people. Um, I was kind of noticing like the difference between like, um, like group sites

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<v Billy Newman>and like, uh, kind of like more remote sites that you might go to. And that's sort of something

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<v Billy Newman>that you're going to notice out there too, these kind of, these bigger group sites where it seems

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<v Billy Newman>like you could almost have like a horse camp or something. I've seen that as a, as an option

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<v Billy Newman>out there too. It's kind of strange when you got, you know, there's like kind of regular camps. It

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<v Billy Newman>seems like you could set up and then there's like a camp with a, with a corral built into the

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<v Billy Newman>campsite. And it seems like it's made from timber that was cut and processed. You know, they just like

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<v Billy Newman>cut down a tree right there and then split it and then made a corral out of it to keep their

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<v Billy Newman>horses for their horse camp that they have for, you know, some hunting thing that they're up to

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<v Billy Newman>or some outdoors thing they were up to. But it seems like a lot of these places are like big

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<v Billy Newman>enough to like bring in an ATV or, you know, they have like a quad or something like that,

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<v Billy Newman>but it seems like there's kind of like a big, uh, circled out area. And then otherwise there's

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<v Billy Newman>like different locations that, uh, kind of like more for like high clearance trucks or, you know,

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<v Billy Newman>like some kind of four, uh, four wheel drive location that's a little bit further where you can

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<v Billy Newman>kind of get back a little ways into the, what would kind of be the back country or, you know,

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<v Billy Newman>into an, uh, closer to a wilderness area. And then you can take that and then jump back further

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<v Billy Newman>and, uh, do some hunting in an area that you'd, uh, maybe scouted out earlier in the year. But

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<v Billy Newman>for me, like I don't really hunt or do any of that stuff. I'm just out kind of hunting for pictures,

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<v Billy Newman>um, and hunting for good campsites and stuff. So that's kind of what's been fun about that.

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<v Billy Newman>And going through the John Day river area out there, there was a lot of stuff that, uh,

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<v Billy Newman>that bordered like some BLM land that stretched up a hill. And I guess that area is like, uh,

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<v Billy Newman>uh, one of the, uh, one of the drainages that I, that people go to for a lot of elk hunting.

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<v Billy Newman>Um, and I hear it's known for that or, you know, known for some pretty big elk that they're able to,

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<v Billy Newman>to get out of that area, which is kind of, it's kind of cool. It'd be fun. It'd be fun to see some

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<v Billy Newman>elk out there. I've only seen a couple elk and most of the time I just see the female elk. I don't

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<v Billy Newman>think I've really ever seen like a big bull elk out there in the woods. That'd be kind of fun.

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<v Billy Newman>But I've had a good time. Yeah. Getting out to go to, uh, some of those dispersed camping sites

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<v Billy Newman>and stuff. There's some out in deep Eastern Oregon by like Heart Mountain that I've always really

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<v Billy Newman>liked. Um, there's a lot in kind of that Eastern Oregon section when you get out there. But what

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<v Billy Newman>I've noticed though, is a lot of the stuff in the national forest section of, uh, say like the

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<v Billy Newman>cascades, it seemed like pretty, pretty well populated. And it's kind of harder to find good

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<v Billy Newman>spots up there. You can, you can find like, you know, little pull outs and dead end roads and

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<v Billy Newman>stuff. But, uh, but as it goes for like, uh, just kind of big free, uh, dispersed campsite

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<v Billy Newman>sections, it's a little bit harder to find. It's, it's a little more organized out in those

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<v Billy Newman>locations. That's, what's cool about some of the BLM stuff and some of the high desert

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<v Billy Newman>location stuff is it's just, it's just kind of wide open. You're just, you know, sort of

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<v Billy Newman>driving around and you take some little dinky road off to the side and then you're at a cool

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<v Billy Newman>fire pit and the big juniper tree. And, uh, it looks like people have been camping there

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<v Billy Newman>forever, you know? So it's, it's cool that you can kind of find some stuff like that.

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<v Billy Newman>And I've, I've had a good time going out to Eastern Oregon to find some stuff like that

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<v Billy Newman>for myself. Um, so I want to get out there and, and, uh, try and go camping at some of

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<v Billy Newman>this, uh, some of the spots. I know, like I'm kind of competing with the hunting season,

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<v Billy Newman>like I was saying, but, but even still, yeah, I want to jump out there and, uh, try and do

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<v Billy Newman>some fall camping. That's really like one of the best times of year to go out there. I

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<v Billy Newman>really like the springtime, like even the early springtime, like late March and April,

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<v Billy Newman>while it's still pretty cold. If you can, if you can gear up for it, it's really a cool

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<v Billy Newman>time to be out there because you have so much, uh, like texture and weather in the sky and

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<v Billy Newman>in the clouds, uh, that it kind of keeps the terrain pretty interesting. It can be pretty

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<v Billy Newman>miserable, you know, if the weather's totally turned on yet, but, uh, as it goes for a lot

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<v Billy Newman>of it, it really is kind of like a cool time to be out there in the summertime. It'll

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<v Billy Newman>even by like May or a little into June for sure. It just gets so hot that it's kind of

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<v Billy Newman>tough to be out just kind of wandering around or hiking around in the daytime. Uh, so it

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<v Billy Newman>kind of cuts down on the amount of, of just kind of trekking around or wandering or poking

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<v Billy Newman>around stuff that you could do. You can probably do something from your truck or something, but

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<v Billy Newman>it's, it's a little more fun to get out there and, uh, hike around, check some stuff out.

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<v Billy Newman>So it seems like, uh, the fall, like when the temperatures are down a little bit, you have

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<v Billy Newman>a little bit better opportunity to do that. And then early in the springtime. Um, but I think

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<v Billy Newman>the fall is my favorite time to be out there when you're, you're watching the, the aspen

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<v Billy Newman>trees kind of turn from green to yellow to orange and get a lot of color out there.

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<v Billy Newman>And, uh, some of those, uh, some of those aspen groves that grow out in Eastern Oregon.

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<v Billy Newman>So I want to try and go out there and get some photographs of it as the seasons start to

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<v Billy Newman>change and the colors come on in the trees. Um, I get, I bet there's going to be some nice

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<v Billy Newman>days and stuff out there. And it seems like some of the trees are already starting to turn

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<v Billy Newman>a little bit. Like I was saying in that last podcast, I'm seeing a lot of, uh, a lot

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<v Billy Newman>of trees kind of start to get that late, late summer, early fall tinge to them where it looks

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<v Billy Newman>like they're about to, about to turn over and, uh, get brown and begin fall.

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<v Billy Newman>I'll begin.

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<v Robert Biscourette>talking and it's it's uncomfortable when it's like if i were to try and do the nightly news

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<v Robert Biscourette>or something like that so robert yeah tell me again about the lower road

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<v Robert Biscourette>it'd be well billy yeah yeah and uh well so you know i should probably just come up like once a

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<v Robert Biscourette>month and we'll do like a saturday night shoot the shit sesh oh yeah it'd be fun a saturday

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<v Robert Biscourette>shit shooting sesh we'll just do like a two-hour episode where we just like face to face drink some

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<v Robert Biscourette>beers oh that'd be great actually that'd be the most fun and uh also i want to make uh i want to

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<v Robert Biscourette>do some field recordings with you too we got to make an excuse to do uh to do a couple trips however

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<v Robert Biscourette>we can i don't know but we have to yeah i like it yeah we should do some stuff to to get out and go

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<v Robert Biscourette>camping or something and i don't know yeah so we get to hang out and go camping we should do we

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<v Robert Biscourette>should do some little recordings and i agree but yeah it'd be really cool i think uh i think doing

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<v Robert Biscourette>it'd be really fun uh there's a few things i have to grow into because i haven't really had someone

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<v Robert Biscourette>on a telephone before just with a studio so like tonight yeah the sound thing i want to try and work

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<v Robert Biscourette>out a couple things just to make it come in clear but this already sounds a lot more level and a lot

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<v Robert Biscourette>more clear of your voice coming through uh yeah you listen to the last one there's a few times where

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<v Robert Biscourette>it seemed like your voice level kind of dropped out yeah or yeah it was just lower i think it's just

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<v Robert Biscourette>this bad gear that i or this bad cable that i've got um so i need you to be more professional

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<v Robert Biscourette>i need to tighten this up

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<v Robert Biscourette>uh but yeah i think it uh it sounds good it sounds pretty cool uh as it goes i was uh

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<v Robert Biscourette>yeah i was thinking uh i want to i like the idea of calling it the get out there podcast or or some

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<v Robert Biscourette>something around that yeah and yeah i know you had like the old art for it and the old or you know

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<v Robert Biscourette>the stuff that you had worked on before for i thought that was kind of a cool idea i was going to match

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<v Robert Biscourette>set up or or just to make sure that there wasn't anything else that was a podcast out there that

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<v Robert Biscourette>was called that no there's not i looked at it there's like a get out there.com though and i

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<v Robert Biscourette>don't really know what it's about i've researched it a couple times but that's but that's it it's fine

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<v Robert Biscourette>you know visit us at get out there.net and you know is that you know get out there gmail.com or

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<v Robert Biscourette>something you know yeah it's it's all it's all going to be the same and and really uh you can reuse

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<v Robert Biscourette>stuff or you know yeah if there's there's probably going to be a different thing than what we're

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<v Robert Biscourette>doing so if it's different and oh i was just going to say i think it would be cool at some

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<v Robert Biscourette>point i mean this is later on down the road once we've kind of uh you know got our feet nice and

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<v Robert Biscourette>wet in this and kind of have a flow to it um i think it would be cool to like set up an email and

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<v Robert Biscourette>if we end up with some listeners you know like hey email us in like uh tell us about your stories

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<v Robert Biscourette>if we think it's interesting we'll get you on the show i'd love it or something and then you know

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<v Robert Biscourette>we could kind of like co-host it just like talk with people and just kind of get their take on

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<v Robert Biscourette>things that they've done and yeah uh situations and stuff yeah that's a really good idea to try

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<v Robert Biscourette>and do um as soon as we're kind of kind of up and running and able to what i was hoping to do with

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<v Robert Biscourette>you is i want to do uh like around 10 episodes or so uh where we we record uh we have you know we

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<v Robert Biscourette>have a few i don't know or you know we just have a few kind of set up but i was hearing about this when

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<v Robert Biscourette>you launch a podcast and uh we can do it different if you if you don't care or if you you want to do

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<v Robert Biscourette>it some other way but i was hearing when you launch a podcast it works really well to have

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<v Robert Biscourette>or to help you in the first weeks to get uh noticed in the kind of the new podcast lineup that comes

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<v Robert Biscourette>out every week is if you have like around five six seven back episodes as you launch so that people

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<v Robert Biscourette>can like check out one and then check out two three four five that kind of thing is what i'd heard

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<v Robert Biscourette>yeah i agree because like you want people to listen to several you know i mean because it's way too easy

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<v Robert Biscourette>to just go like uh you know listen to one episode and go oh that was kind of neat like i'm curious

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<v Robert Biscourette>kind of forget about it or something yeah like at least if there was a subscription and they could

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<v Robert Biscourette>like subscribe to five episodes oh sure you know then then they've got you know in theory a week's

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<v Robert Biscourette>worth of episodes to listen to before a new episode comes out yeah i was thinking yeah something like

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<v Robert Biscourette>that might be a good way to get a few people uh a few people on i mean even with the little goofy

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<v Robert Biscourette>ones like the the night sky one you checked out like it's small time at first you know there's

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<v Robert Biscourette>there's not a ton that's a great thing about it is you really don't have to worry about numbers

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<v Robert Biscourette>that much yeah because it's like really low numbers it takes a while but but it does but it's out there

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<v Robert Biscourette>i mean like uh the night sky one it's like i don't know like 500 people or something have checked out

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<v Robert Biscourette>you know each of a handful of episodes which is more than zero but uh but i think with ours it would

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<v Robert Biscourette>make a lot or it would work a lot better because we'd be able to promote it and it would be uh

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<v Robert Biscourette>dynamic about more of the outdoor stuff so the night sky one you know we kind of keep it on the

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<v Robert Biscourette>back burner a lot of the time but i want i really want to like kind of do one with you that'd be fun

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<v Robert Biscourette>we'll take it easy for ourselves we won't make it too much work for ourselves but i want to make it

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<v Robert Biscourette>yeah yeah i want to make it a cool project that uh that we like to do so what i wanted to do is uh

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<v Robert Biscourette>uh kind of record two a week for a little bit of time or i don't know just to get like a little bit

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<v Robert Biscourette>of experience so that we do maybe like uh something around 20 minutes or so an episode is what i was

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<v Robert Biscourette>thinking about yeah uh to make them kind of kind of easy to do for us and that's i guess about what

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<v Robert Biscourette>i'm comfortable with or like to be able to talk through for a while it's about what i'm skilled at

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<v Robert Biscourette>doing right now if we get better well no that's great we'll get better that's great um but yeah i

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<v Robert Biscourette>think that well shoot what was the thing i was gonna say uh well now i can't remember sorry rob but

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<v Robert Biscourette>yeah i'm excited to do the podcast stuff uh

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