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Title: Get Out There Podcast Episode 24: Shifting from Haphazard to Goal-Oriented Photography & Scaling Up Podcast Guests & Fitness Habits

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<v Billy Newman>Welcome to the Get Out There Podcast. Outdoor exploration, backcountry camping, public land adventures, and river guide stories.

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<v Billy Newman>so it can be kind of an interesting place to check out at some times but it can be pretty harsh too

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<v Billy Newman>when the winds pick up or especially at night as the temperature drops and the weather changes

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<v Billy Newman>and you're definitely going to be dealing with freezing temperatures if you're going out there

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<v Billy Newman>much past uh much past mid-october seems like maybe they're probably getting close to a frost or

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<v Billy Newman>or near the freeze there i think they're most areas out there around like 4 500 feet probably

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<v Billy Newman>45 to like 5 500 feet and some smile it can't be a mile high is it a mile high out in plush i don't

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<v Billy Newman>know probably about 42 4500 feet maybe but there are certainly some areas like i talked about on

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<v Billy Newman>those last ships where uh you're going out there and uh you can you can raise an elevation a few

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<v Billy Newman>thousand feet and be kind of surprised like oh i thought i was relatively flat through most of this

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<v Billy Newman>area but no you've been gaining an elevation yeah you can get up on top of a rise and be at 6 500 feet

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<v Billy Newman>you're like wow man wow so i don't know it's interesting you can kind of move back and forth

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<v Billy Newman>a little bit on you out there but yeah it's cool i'm excited to get out and do some travel

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<v Billy Newman>through some eastern oregon areas during uh october here trying to do some video stuff and some

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<v Billy Newman>photography stuff i think i was mentioning that before where yeah a lot of the time i'm working

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<v Billy Newman>on the photography stuff or working on like some film photos or something and i'm definitely going

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<v Billy Newman>to be doing a lot of that this fall and i'm really trying to focus on some like goals to kind

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<v Billy Newman>of kind of focus what i'm trying to gather while i'm out there so like you know i get like a an

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<v Billy Newman>amount of something of you know whatever whatever goal i'm trying to put together but i'm kind of

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<v Billy Newman>trying to focus on that a little bit more instead of just kind of haphazard haphazardly going out and

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<v Billy Newman>then seeing something interesting and maybe taking a photograph of it so uh so it's been kind of kind

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<v Billy Newman>of interesting to do and i'm trying to do that a little bit with the photographs for a lot of the

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<v Billy Newman>summer but i'm also trying to get a collection of uh better uh longer video clips that are recorded

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<v Billy Newman>in sort of a you know a professional way or you know i want to try and like set it up on a tripod

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<v Billy Newman>or set it up in a way where it's a it's kind of an easy and steady shot for a longer period of time

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<v Billy Newman>and what i hope to do with that is uh through like a number of the trips as i kind of move across

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<v Billy Newman>oregon is to gather enough uh sets of clips of different uh like landmark locations that i'm later

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<v Billy Newman>able to you know use those videos to put together uh different pieces and different pieces in

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<v Billy Newman>association with the photographs but just to kind of show visually and through video some of the areas

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<v Billy Newman>uh too so video is not really like what uh what i really like putting together what i especially like

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<v Billy Newman>editing on and i like kind of some of the more specific controls you have over the

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<v Billy Newman>outcome and the way that a moment looks um in the way that you use photography instead of sort of the

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<v Billy Newman>longer format system of video that shows you know a lot of changes to just a single aspect of

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<v Billy Newman>something over a period of time so i think it'd be cool though to um to go out and try and get a

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<v Billy Newman>bunch of landscape video clips that are long enough to kind of use in sort of a documentary fashion

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<v Billy Newman>for some future projects coming up so it's kind of fun but uh and it's also something i haven't really

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<v Billy Newman>done as much before so it kind of also reopens a lot of spots that i've maybe grown tired of going to

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<v Billy Newman>in the past you know where i live i've gone to a spot say i don't know fort rock or something like

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<v Billy Newman>that i've been there a number of times really cool spot really interesting if you haven't been

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<v Billy Newman>there if you want to walk around or something but if you go to take photographs of it it's really

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<v Billy Newman>cool and i could probably take a lot more photographs of a place like that to be honest

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<v Billy Newman>but um but as it goes though if you think just well just you know a regular photo framed picture

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<v Billy Newman>i'm getting kind of tired of that i have a few of those and i don't really uh have a draw to go back

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<v Billy Newman>there to photograph it but if i'm doing like a video project well i haven't done that before

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<v Billy Newman>so it kind of gives me a little bit of inspiration to to go there and to to do that with it or i think

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<v Billy Newman>like what it was a couple years ago when we were working with a gopro 360 camera uh it was interesting

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<v Billy Newman>because it's like well all these places that i've gone to before even like crater lake which really i

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<v Billy Newman>have not that much interest in it was like oh well like i should go to crater lake i should make it to

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<v Billy Newman>that destination because i have this tool with me that i normally don't have or i have this uh this

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<v Billy Newman>thing that i normally don't do like making 360 video in that case or now in this case of you know

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<v Billy Newman>just going around and trying to make uh like a steady set of like documentary video clips it's

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<v Billy Newman>like well i haven't done that before so it kind of opens up like every location in the past that i

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<v Billy Newman>had gone to and so i've just kind of checked that off the list i don't need to go to that waterfall

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<v Billy Newman>again i've kind of been there and i've got some cool photos of it so i'll just go to the next place

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<v Billy Newman>and kind of head on and so this kind of opens it up a little bit of well i'm familiar with these

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<v Billy Newman>places i can kind of go through and produce these clips out in a way that's um you know

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<v Billy Newman>gonna work for me or something so it's kind of cool i'm going through and uh trying to capture

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<v Billy Newman>some longer clips and stuff but man video takes a lot longer to do you know you kind of you have to

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<v Billy Newman>like do a few things you have to really pull over and really steady it and shut everything off wait

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<v Billy Newman>for the sounds to be right you know if you're in an area where it doesn't doesn't work right like

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<v Billy Newman>if you're near a road and there's cars or something going by or whatever it is you just have

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<v Billy Newman>to make these mitigations to try and make it where you don't have to like get off the road or go

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<v Billy Newman>further away or set up a better shot or whatever it is you have to kind of like push a little harder

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<v Billy Newman>and then to capture it sort of similar to like long exposure photography you just have to like sit

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<v Billy Newman>there and wait for a while you have to wait for the time to elapse for you to capture a minute of

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<v Billy Newman>footage or four minutes of footage of these you know like cattle moving across the field or something

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<v Billy Newman>like that so uh it's kind of fun yeah the stuff that you see and the stuff that you capture but

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<v Billy Newman>it also takes like a lot more work to kind of put together those video pieces but i'm looking

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<v Billy Newman>forward to it i want to try and put together some time lapse work uh some sky video like some sunset

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<v Billy Newman>stuff there's some clouds kind of moving around i think that's going to be really interesting or

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<v Billy Newman>especially like with some of the dynamic uh kind of dramatic cloud textures that you get over in

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<v Billy Newman>eastern oregon during the september and october times a year uh i think it'll be kind of cool to try

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<v Billy Newman>and photograph uh some of those quickly kind of moving lower cumulus clouds as they sort of kind of

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<v Billy Newman>swirl and churn and move past on the sky so uh gonna try and set up some some longer maybe like

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<v Billy Newman>an hour video or something like that and then set up a time lapse from that to kind of speed the video

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<v Billy Newman>up and then make it uh something where you can kind of see that

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<v Billy Newman>you

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<v Billy Newman>the sun comes up so you're just sitting there going man well i'm camping here by myself and

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<v Billy Newman>it's going to be a long time so i see like the daylight or sun again so it's kind of frustrating

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<v Billy Newman>there's really not a lot to do but totally totally your thumbs or something it seems like when you're

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<v Billy Newman>out there i was thinking yeah i could like start a big fire and burn it for a while there's also i

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<v Billy Newman>don't know it wasn't really set up for that for me for there but uh it's but that is kind of what i

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<v Billy Newman>want to do i want kind of a more traditional little camp out camp spot with the campfire

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<v Billy Newman>going to keep me warm for a while i did have that propane heater that i've been keeping with me that

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<v Billy Newman>i don't know like heater buddy or something whatever it's called but that one's been pretty

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<v Billy Newman>cool taking those like a little portable propane tanks that goes into the side of it and then

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<v Billy Newman>it adds a lot of heat to the back of the cab of the truck here and i think it's it's you know safe

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<v Billy Newman>for use and uh kind of kind of enclosed but also ventilated areas so it's uh it's worked pretty good

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<v Billy Newman>the truck came into the back of the truck worked really good pretty comfortable stayed pretty warm

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<v Billy Newman>double bagged it i still have the the 15 degree bag but i took the other 15 degree bag i've got

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<v Billy Newman>and uh stacked them up and uh with each other and that helped a lot it was great i stayed pretty

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<v Billy Newman>warm through the night it was still just uh you know around i don't know probably like 25 to 30

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<v Billy Newman>it's probably as cold as it got it did freeze overnight but uh it wasn't really much more than

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<v Billy Newman>like a frost and stuff for a while so it was pretty good but um but yeah i was up in the mountains

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<v Billy Newman>and stuff you know just coastal mountains so it's only uh probably like 800 900 feet above sea level

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<v Billy Newman>um but it was cool going up there checking out some spots i was up there for two nights

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<v Billy Newman>uh which was cool i liked i like going up there for two nights i didn't even make it as far as i thought

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<v Billy Newman>i thought i was going to get all the way down toward maybe bandon or coquille there's some areas out

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<v Billy Newman>there that i'd like to go to but uh i made it kind of down toward um down toward reedsport

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<v Billy Newman>and then out into i think the elliot state forest down there and got to check out some more stuff

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<v Billy Newman>did some 22 shooting got to drive around for a while i got to check out some views got to do some

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<v Billy Newman>photography um all that was pretty cool it was kind of fun i'm glad i got to check out some of that

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<v Billy Newman>stuff the second morning was really cool when i um when i got up out there i uh i took i got up in

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<v Billy Newman>the truck i don't know probably like 4 a.m kind of like what i was talking about earlier is you know

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<v Billy Newman>that you're just kind of like sitting there for a long time thinking like man well it's 13 hours

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<v Billy Newman>till it's daylight so i went to bed really early um and then i was able to like wake up at i don't

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<v Billy Newman>know 3 a.m 4 a.m i've got kind of an off sleep schedule right now anyway and then i was up there

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<v Billy Newman>i was thinking well you know like i'm just in the car and it's cold back here you know as fine as it

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<v Billy Newman>is but i was thinking well yeah i want to get ready i want to get going i want to get out before

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<v Billy Newman>sunrise and i happen to wake up and stuff so i guess it's as good a reason as any to do what i came out and

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<v Billy Newman>said i was going to do you know come out and take pictures um so i jumped in the the cab of the truck

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<v Billy Newman>i got the heat going i got the car warmed up i um i packed up the stuff outside in the back and then

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<v Billy Newman>i got ready and i drove out on these mountain roads and i came up to this uh kind of open vista spot up

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<v Billy Newman>on top of this hillside and it's really cool looks out over a bunch of the coastal hills out there

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<v Billy Newman>out to i don't know the east uh and uh yeah beautiful spot beautiful morning and stuff it was cool you

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<v Billy Newman>could see a couple planets up above the horizon line which was uh which was pretty nice and then

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<v Billy Newman>the sun kind of before it came up you see kind of the glow of it under the the horizon line out to

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<v Billy Newman>the east uh but uh but yeah really cool and then uh down below and the the valley floors was just uh

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<v Billy Newman>fog everywhere and so this uh this kind of mountain terrain it had these kind of creek channels that were

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<v Billy Newman>all sort of narrow creek channels that would sort of draw up under these these mountain ridge lines

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<v Billy Newman>that's uh kind of where i was at taking the pictures and as you look down there's these um

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<v Billy Newman>this elevation line where it's just all fog and it kind of kind of fills it in like as if it was

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<v Billy Newman>water or you know it's like something like thick water that you could kind of fill in a lake with

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<v Billy Newman>out there and sort of see what it was like but it was really cool to to be up above the fog line and

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<v Billy Newman>then later drove down into the fog nice soupy actually i think like right on the ground it was just

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<v Billy Newman>like you know pretty clear it just seemed like a pretty heavily cloudy gray day but i drove into

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<v Billy Newman>a little town out there on the highway road i tried to get a coffee all the little coffee stands

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<v Billy Newman>that aren't like chain coffee stands out there in those you know super tiny towns and a bunch of

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<v Billy Newman>other small businesses out there all still shut down because of covid all those restaurants and stuff

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<v Billy Newman>like that and you know they're just kind of like single operator owner run stuff i'd be shut down too

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<v Billy Newman>like i am um and uh so i get it but uh yeah it was kind of funny i was driving i was like i remember

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<v Billy Newman>pulling into a coffee shop there's just some little mama pop shop over here and whatever you

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<v Billy Newman>know 800 person town it is between uh you know out here on the umqua river or whatever it was

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<v Billy Newman>and uh yeah closed down close for the season or something and they're just kind of kind of taking

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<v Billy Newman>a break from it for the covid stuff to to figure out settle down and i understand it i'd kind of do the

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<v Billy Newman>same thing i've i've kind of seen that all over the state for the last year so it makes a bunch of

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<v Billy Newman>sense but uh but yeah i was uh able to jump back up into the hills and stuff and then kind of pull up

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<v Billy Newman>out of the the fog line again and get back up on top of a ridge and find a couple of the vistas to

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<v Billy Newman>do some photographs from i was trying to work with a with the 14 millimeter or the 14 to 40 millimeter

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<v Billy Newman>lens and the 50 millimeter lens both of those came in uh to be really useful i was out taking some

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<v Billy Newman>pictures i've also been trying to incorporate uh some more stuff like a little bit of a higher

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<v Billy Newman>compression which i've kind of been liking um but i've really been doing a lot of stuff with that

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<v Billy Newman>that like heavy wide angle which i thought i think is pretty cool i like the the morning

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<v Billy Newman>um the morning skyline stuff with the the heavy wide angle it's kind of cool so been working on

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<v Billy Newman>that a bunch threw those on the computer after i got home and been kind of trying to edit through

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<v Billy Newman>them and work on them a bit i'll try and throw some up on the website soon i think i have a post

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<v Billy Newman>uh coming up in a bit with some of that stuff but it'll probably be be a bit but i'll get a bunch

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<v Billy Newman>of that stuff up there now i'm also trying to figure out yeah let's see

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<v Robert Biscourette>and oh yeah you uh you sent me a an email or a message about you having other people on i really

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<v Robert Biscourette>want to do it i don't know how the gear stuff will work out for it i think we could have them

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<v Robert Biscourette>do the same thing as what you're doing right now that's kind of what i had envisioned

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<v Robert Biscourette>okay sorry oh that's cool yeah yeah yeah i uh i'm i'm totally with you i mean i think we could do

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<v Robert Biscourette>that for a couple you know yeah and then see where it goes from there yeah i want to i want to try and

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<v Robert Biscourette>have someone else on there but i was thinking if uh they have a feature that's called like a group

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<v Robert Biscourette>call you know like a party line or something back in the day would have been oh yeah where a couple

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<v Robert Biscourette>people can call in on the same skype call so i was thinking or i was thinking about something like that

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<v Robert Biscourette>where like if if like you were on it would just sort of sound like at least from your guys's end

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<v Robert Biscourette>that you were just on a like a group skype call you know talking about yeah whatever but then i'd

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<v Robert Biscourette>be recording it on my end and that would be i guess so what we'd have with the podcast so it's an all

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<v Robert Biscourette>right option yeah i think that would be really cool like you know uh i had lunch with tyler the other

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<v Robert Biscourette>day oh cool yeah and he was asking me what was going on and i told him that we did an episode and uh

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<v Robert Biscourette>and he was all about he was like oh man i want to be on an episode nice yeah you know so i was like

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<v Robert Biscourette>yeah i mean you know like if we i mean i mean actually i think it'd be pretty cool we could talk

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<v Robert Biscourette>to him about you know like uh just like almost like an environmental consciousness type thing with

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<v Robert Biscourette>i mean he knows a lot about watershed sciences yeah you know the way we affect our water tables

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<v Robert Biscourette>and things of that nature might be kind of neat to pick his brain for an episode i was i was thinking

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<v Robert Biscourette>about that too uh i thought tyler would be a really good person to have as a as just somebody to

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<v Robert Biscourette>talk to for a podcast like this so it might be fun to yeah have him on whenever he wants to do it too

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<v Robert Biscourette>yeah but um but yeah man thanks for wanting to do something like it i think it's pretty cool

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<v Robert Biscourette>how's uh how's other stuff going for you this week okay it's going well just uh working away

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<v Robert Biscourette>got back to go into the gym it's just like nice trying to rally yourself in the morning you know

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<v Robert Biscourette>you're like oh my god i don't want to be up right now yeah i don't know how you're able to do stuff

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<v Robert Biscourette>like that i've just been trying to keep up with like the little stuff i'm doing it's like oh

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<v Robert Biscourette>yeah i don't know it's tough man the older you get like the more you just appreciate sleep and just

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<v Robert Biscourette>you know you're doing so much stuff all the time and i mean you know you're always busy it's like

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<v Robert Biscourette>you just you know i don't know you just start letting kind of i mean some of the important things

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<v Robert Biscourette>slip you're just like ah it's not that word and then it's just like well i don't really want like

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<v Robert Biscourette>heart disease you know it's yeah i've thought about that a few times man i've been uh yeah i've

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<v Robert Biscourette>been doing great as as like at least for me as diet stuff goes or just kind of keeping it like

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<v Robert Biscourette>really consistent and clean for a long time yeah that's great and then and then moderate exercise

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<v Robert Biscourette>for me as you know is a huge change so i was like wow this is way different yeah but yeah it's kind of

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<v Robert Biscourette>i don't know it's silly but yeah man way to go yeah i mean you know it only sucks when you're starting

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<v Robert Biscourette>like once you're once you get into the oh the habit back in it when it becomes habitual that's when

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<v Robert Biscourette>you're like okay this isn't bad you know yeah yeah let's see robert how's my sound to you

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<v Robert Biscourette>oh man it sounds great really okay coming in loud and quick oh wow all right i don't know what i

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<v Robert Biscourette>did right but just don't just keep it set up just keep it recording until next week when we're talking

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<v Robert Biscourette>yeah i'm not gonna change anything um okay so uh yeah did what did you want to talk about this week

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<v Robert Biscourette>did you have anything that you had uh thought of man um you know actually uh today i was listening

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<v Robert Biscourette>to one of the joe rogan podcast and um cool and they were talking about honey you know and oh yeah

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<v Robert Biscourette>i'd love to talk i thought that was pretty cool which podcast did you listen to uh man it was like

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<v Robert Biscourette>uh from like a week ago or something it uh he had actually super interesting in this it really kind of

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<v Robert Biscourette>got my wheels turning in the old think tank about uh things we could do you know um i forget who the

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<v Robert Biscourette>guy was but it was like two uh outdoor enthusiasts that kind of developed a new type of role oh wow

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<v Robert Biscourette>yeah i think i saw them come up in the feed man okay the one you got to check out is steve ranella

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<v Robert Biscourette>do you know that guy steve ranella i sound familiar but i can't say that yeah steve ranella's podcast with

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<v Robert Biscourette>joe he's got like four or five of them in the whole feed i think he's got a recent one but man that guy

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<v Robert Biscourette>has like one of the coolest perspectives i think like in hunting and outdoors stuff like that i

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<v Robert Biscourette>really like really yeah i like what he does a lot he's he's like uh he's the host of the show

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<v Robert Biscourette>meat eater i think it's on the travel channel so so yeah they were talking about that website a ton

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<v Robert Biscourette>oh yeah if you go to meat eater.com like it's got all that they were like huge advocates about this

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<v Robert Biscourette>website that i was meaning to check out yeah it's cool yeah this guy's pretty smart he's uh

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<v Robert Biscourette>uh i think he's like from the i don't know he's like kind of from the midwest or something like

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<v Robert Biscourette>that but he grew up hunting and uh but he's he's also like a writer but he's kind of like he's really

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<v Robert Biscourette>just like a naturalist guy but he's like hunting like 200 days a year something like that whoa yeah

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<v Robert Biscourette>yeah he's just like all and he's a younger dude but he's he's just like fit and like just an outdoorsman

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<v Robert Biscourette>that like goes he hunts for all of his meat he gets tags like all over the world he's like gone to

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<v Robert Biscourette>like different places with uh like hunters from like weird tribes in brazil you know and like gone

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<v Robert Biscourette>out like hunted with them but his whole thing i think is about uh like how you how you dress your

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<v Robert Biscourette>meat after you kill it and then like what you can make with with meat that you get like the different

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<v Robert Biscourette>parts of the body and stuff yeah his whole thing was like uh it was like a cookbook i think was like

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<v Robert Biscourette>one of his big book or something nice like uh like a hunter's cookbook or something like that but but yeah

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