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NOTE Episode: Get Out There Podcast - Episode 72
NOTE Host: Billy Newman
NOTE Support: https://wnp-pay.web.app

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<v Billy Newman>Welcome to the Get Out There Podcast. Outdoor exploration, backcountry camping, public land adventures, and river guide stories.

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<v Billy Newman>to see uh to see my account that we're working on and uh this will be part of our first story

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<v Billy Newman>that we're putting up on a photo that we took when we were camping in the warner rim and uh

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<v Billy Newman>we'll be talking about just the the camping and travel stuff of that but it was really cool i

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<v Billy Newman>liked that trip that we did it was back uh back in may end of may this year it's fun how'd you like

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<v Billy Newman>it i liked it a lot i think that's a really cool spot that was the what is it the second or third

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<v Billy Newman>time that i'd been out there yeah i think it was around that time and uh yeah we've done we've done

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<v Billy Newman>that trip out there a couple times it's a it's an area near plush oregon uh which is real far

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<v Billy Newman>southeast oregon i think close to the nevada border maybe it's still close to the california border in

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<v Billy Newman>but uh but yeah real far out there i think uh way east of lakeview and uh and it's real close to

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<v Billy Newman>heart mountain you can sometimes find that area on the map but uh but this area out here it's called

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<v Billy Newman>warner rim so opposing heart mountain to the west there's another rim called warner rim and uh and you

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<v Billy Newman>can go out onto the top of it the the way that the geology is out there there's a lot of these rims

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<v Billy Newman>they they're only really a rim on one side it's sort of like a shelf where where one side's picked

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<v Billy Newman>up but the other side's sunken into the ground and so a lot of the time you can just kind of walk

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<v Billy Newman>right up onto the rise from one side of it but then there's a big cliff face on the other side of it

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<v Billy Newman>similar with uh with the steens mountains with heart mountain with warner rim with abert rim with

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<v Billy Newman>poker gem ridge all these little geological features that are out there in this section of uh of eastern

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<v Billy Newman>oregon are kind of put together that way and i think they seem to kind of border different uh water

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<v Billy Newman>erosion areas out there but this area warner rim it was a cool spot we've been camping out there for

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<v Billy Newman>years uh i think my family's been yeah you guys have been camping out there for a long time yeah yeah

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<v Billy Newman>it's a fun spot out there it's cool it's a so i really like uh remote dispersed camping places

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<v Billy Newman>and i know that's what you and i normally try and look for when we're out uh doing some china

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<v Billy Newman>outdoor travel thing and there's really a lot of good spots out there and i know that's a cool

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<v Billy Newman>thing about the outbound is trying to collect more information about where those good spots at the camp

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<v Billy Newman>are but uh but yeah that's kind of just part part to tell our story about what we're doing and what

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<v Billy Newman>we're doing to take this photo it was it's cool getting out to the spot it's a pretty dispersed campsite

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<v Billy Newman>so there's no bathrooms it's really just you know like a wide it's a you know a wide natural

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<v Billy Newman>area and uh there's you know like it's like a horse camp uh yeah it's like a hunter's camp

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<v Billy Newman>it's a few things like that you see uh like antelope out there kind of running around in the

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<v Billy Newman>in the wood it's it's backed up to a rim rock there's like a 15 foot tall rim rock ridge that

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<v Billy Newman>sort of runs to the back side of uh of the camping there so you kind of tuck back into the trees up

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<v Billy Newman>against the rocks you're pretty well sheltered uh from from a good bit of the exposure that you would

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<v Billy Newman>experience out there on that landscape that terrain it really is pretty harsh i guess if you're used

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<v Billy Newman>to that type of area it might make more sense but it's still like 45 to 5500 feet uh elevation in

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<v Billy Newman>that area which is pretty high and uh and you can definitely feel the the dryness the level of

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<v Billy Newman>exposure if you're from at least a different kind of kind of climate you're not really acclimated to

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<v Billy Newman>it yet yeah i always notice that when we make our trips out to eastern oregon it takes me a little

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<v Billy Newman>while to acclimate my lips get chapped really easily my skin feels thinner from all the air

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<v Billy Newman>yeah i noticed that i noticed that a lot while we're out there i mean even just in the days we

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<v Billy Newman>were there you know you feel the penetration of the the uv your sunburn it seems to be worse and

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<v Billy Newman>all in all of it it's just a it's just a rough a rough time but it was cool that evening what we

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<v Billy Newman>were going out there for was uh it was a period of the year at the end of may this year when mars

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<v Billy Newman>the planet mars was really bright in the evening sky and i think saturn was also really bright

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<v Billy Newman>but uh but it was a really clear uh pretty early summer night even though you know it's late spring

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<v Billy Newman>uh and so we went out there to uh to set up a little campfire we had our telescope we had the cameras out

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<v Billy Newman>there too and uh while we were out there we were working on doing these long exposure shots of the

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<v Billy Newman>stars the campfire on the truck and i really like this photo that came out it's of the two trucks in the

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<v Billy Newman>background you can see you can see the plateau the rise of of heart mountain in the background

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<v Billy Newman>and then you can see a lot of the summer constellations on the horizon as they rise up above

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<v Billy Newman>the uh the eastern sky there i really like this photo a lot i think it's cool how much uh detail is

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<v Billy Newman>in it for a nighttime photo oh yeah just the silhouette of heart mountain is really noticeable it looks

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<v Billy Newman>really yeah clear and bright and it was a moonless night too so that's that's just all starlight

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<v Billy Newman>that's separating the the terrain there it's really cool wow yeah that's one of the things that i like

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<v Billy Newman>about that area out there is just how much of the sky you get to see oh yeah it's pretty different

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<v Billy Newman>from what we have around where we live yeah i thought it was really cool so i was really happy

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<v Billy Newman>that uh that we put this together and it was a great trip to go out there so yeah hopefully this

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<v Billy Newman>is a little bit of information that uh discusses a bit about what we did out there on that camping trip

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<v Billy Newman>to warner rim a lot of good stories that we have out from that area so we'll definitely revisit

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<v Billy Newman>this location sometime uh soon in the future and uh talk about uh some of the other details of uh

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<v Billy Newman>getting a good camping trip in when you're camping out in eastern oregon but thanks a lot um i think uh

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<v Billy Newman>i think i had another point or two yeah good view of heart mountain um moonless nights are the best

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<v Billy Newman>definitely like a moonless night like when uh when you can really get like the dark stars like that i

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<v Billy Newman>think it was really cool but yeah i think it wraps up just about you know all the stuff that we

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<v Billy Newman>talk about for for this broadcast this live stream of uh of this billy newman photo update for the

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<v Billy Newman>outbound.com check out the outbound.com forward slash billy dash newman to see uh this write-up

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<v Billy Newman>for this story and uh and the accompanying video that we're going to put with it that we're recording

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<v Billy Newman>But it'd be, I guess it would be east or kind of on the east side of Mount Hood.

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<v Billy Newman>And it was over here in the National Forest area over there on some rows back in October.

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<v Billy Newman>I think I was talking about it on the podcast too.

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<v Billy Newman>And I have a photograph here of it, yeah, that I was editing over into a black and white.

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<v Billy Newman>But I really like how contrasty it is and how I was kind of trying to work the blacks in the trees to be, you know, like real crisp and sharp.

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<v Billy Newman>And then kind of isolate some of the channel in the backlight.

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<v Billy Newman>So you get kind of a crisper relief of the details of the trees and the glean off the snow on the side of the peak of the mountain.

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<v Billy Newman>It's pretty cool.

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<v Billy Newman>But it's kind of fun stuff.

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<v Billy Newman>And then I have another kind of abstract one that's sort of some clouds that are sweeping up in this long exposure.

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<v Billy Newman>I'm going to try and get into more long exposure stuff this year if I can do it.

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<v Billy Newman>I want to try and use this Lee Big Stopper Neutral Density Filter.

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<v Billy Newman>And I use this.

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<v Billy Newman>And I also use really just like low light, blue hour time of day with the regular like 30-second exposure on the camera.

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<v Billy Newman>And if there's like a couple clouds in the sky and sort of a skyline with some light on it, you know, some of that evening or morning skylight,

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<v Billy Newman>it works really well to light a photograph for around 30 seconds or so.

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<v Billy Newman>I really like that actually, you know, shooting that time of day.

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<v Billy Newman>I still really prefer the aspects that you get of the just before dawn and just after sunset lighting that you get.

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<v Billy Newman>It's probably some of my favorite.

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<v Billy Newman>But you really get some of the, I guess, kind of the dramatic contrast in the sky.

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<v Billy Newman>You also get a lot of relief and color up into the clouds.

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<v Billy Newman>And even in this one, it's a black and white conversion.

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<v Billy Newman>I think it's cool where you get to see the light kind of curling up over the horizon and sort of making some dramatic effects in the sweep of the clouds

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<v Billy Newman>as they were kind of cast into the photo over 30 seconds that they were exposed for.

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<v Billy Newman>It's pretty fun.

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<v Billy Newman>Pretty cool.

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<v Billy Newman>But also, I don't know, pretty mellow stuff.

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<v Billy Newman>Some black and whites going up.

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<v Billy Newman>If you have any thoughts on those, let me know.

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<v Billy Newman>Shoot me an email.

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<v Billy Newman>BillyNewmanPhoto.com.

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<v Billy Newman>Also, you can, what is it?

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<v Billy Newman>Go to BillyNewmanPhoto.com forward slash support to send me some information or to send me some cash if you want to.

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<v Billy Newman>And send me some information if you want to have me talk about some stuff on the podcast.

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<v Billy Newman>That would be pretty cool, too.

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<v Billy Newman>But through the new year, 2021, it'll be nice and kind of coming into a whole bunch of new stuff.

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<v Billy Newman>So this week I'm going out and doing some kind of, I guess, kind of wintery desert camping stuff.

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<v Billy Newman>Should be kind of wet and really cold, and I'm going to try and get used to that.

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<v Billy Newman>And then coming up soon, I'm going to be trying to go over to the coast for, I want to do some rock counting stuff and some, I want to do some metal detecting.

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<v Billy Newman>I got this metal detector, so I got a whole plan on that coming up.

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<v Billy Newman>personalities and it's always fun yeah i want to grow it a bit and i want to try and make it uh

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<v Billy Newman>like a little bit unique or you know just so it's kind of kind of interesting to us at least

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<v Billy Newman>um but i like it being honest and being about like some of the cool stuff that we remember about uh

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<v Billy Newman>about our trips and the outdoor stuff that we've done um we need uh intro music oh yeah no i want

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<v Billy Newman>to i want to work on our sound design yeah and i'm thinking just like uh some slayer oh yeah

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<v Billy Newman>that's uh that's the uh the great outdoors sound yeah it's exactly that's what nature sounds like

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<v Billy Newman>a babbling brook that's what it sounds like yeah uh i was thinking about this week i wanted to talk

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<v Billy Newman>to you about some of the raft experience that you'd had yeah on the rogue river and probably how to

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<v Billy Newman>apply a lot of that rafting experience outside of that to to just other rivers and other experiences

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<v Billy Newman>more more in general about like the equipment use of rafting and um of uh of doing like

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<v Billy Newman>well probably doing multi-day trips but i was also thinking about people who are interested in doing

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<v Billy Newman>like smaller trips and you you you you tell me i was thinking about it in this way of sort of like

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<v Billy Newman>three different categories of if you were going to be like a like a bigger trip like what you would

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<v Billy Newman>think about for like setting up a raft trip for um for like a guide company or an outfitter

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<v Billy Newman>what you're looking at there as a guide or maybe like what you did to to rig a raft and have it set

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<v Billy Newman>up and like what kind of equipment that was or probably what kind of expense too or what kind of

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<v Billy Newman>investment it is to get into that level of raft and then maybe like what it's like for someone that

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<v Billy Newman>was going to set up a private trip i've been trying to figure out like the difference between like the

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<v Billy Newman>the public commercial side of rafting stuff yeah and what it would be like for a hobbyist or like for

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<v Billy Newman>what you did picking up your your first raft and trailer and frame and i want to think about that a

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<v Billy Newman>little bit and then there's also kind of that the other end too of what we used what you and i used

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<v Billy Newman>to be of uh people that would like pick up a day rental or pick up uh like you know whatever smaller

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<v Billy Newman>thing that they had and there's kind of that like day trip section of it too so i wanted to talk

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<v Billy Newman>about those three levels of kind of getting ready or or what's involved equipment wise for doing

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<v Billy Newman>yeah yeah so that's that's those are good talks

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