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Title: The Night Sky Podcast Episode 23: Capturing the Milky Way with Wide Angles | Launching a Night Sky Calendar

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<v Billy Newman>Welcome to The Night Sky Podcast. Astronomy guides, seasonal constellation tracking, planetary observations, and deep sky astrophotography.

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<v Billy Newman>make out the brightest little little bit of that yeah that's what we see is that puff esteem is the

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<v Billy Newman>very brightest section of that milky way but the rest of it looks a lot like that too it's just

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<v Billy Newman>a little bit dimmer and so our eyes can't perceive it that's really interesting that's one of the

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<v Billy Newman>things i really like about astrophotography and like getting to go through and edit my photos

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<v Billy Newman>is seeing how much you're able to pick up with the camera all the things i didn't get to see

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<v Billy Newman>when my eyes when i was there yeah there's a lot that you can see past past like a sixth magnitude

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<v Billy Newman>the visible i think that's what that's like what we're talking about that glow that we could see

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<v Billy Newman>in the milky way in the galactic center that that's around like a sixth magnitude which is pretty dark

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<v Billy Newman>it's like the human eye threshold but we can see things a lot past that like even when uh when you

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<v Billy Newman>had the camera pointed up into the northeast over here we picked up the andromeda galaxy it's just

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<v Billy Newman>a little smudge but you can spot it really well in the photographs because you can see it so clearly

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<v Billy Newman>yeah because you know there's more light collected during that um so it was really cool uh a few

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<v Billy Newman>days ago kind of working on uh on a lot of astrophotography stuff with that wide angle lens that

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<v Billy Newman>we're talking about but i think that kind of going in for it getting our own lens for the full frame

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<v Billy Newman>camera better low light stuff that we can do is going to be the best way to do it i was looking around

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<v Billy Newman>i was looking at like other people like their tutorials about how they take their photographs

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<v Billy Newman>for astrophotography and it seems like a lot of people have uh kind of developed techniques so

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<v Billy Newman>really similar to what what we're doing what we're learning right now wide angles high so long

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<v Billy Newman>exposure um as a way to get you know these these types of images and then also other than that um

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<v Billy Newman>i think people using and the same people that that we're reading about in these tutorials uh of using

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<v Billy Newman>the remote shutter release oh right so you don't even make contact with the camera yeah and i'm making

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<v Billy Newman>contact with the camera having it you know just really really set up on the tripod the mirror up feature

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<v Billy Newman>in the camera so that it doesn't it doesn't rattle the mirror when it takes it but uh but there's the

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<v Billy Newman>thing where you can you can click and hold it in the bulb setting of uh your shutter like i don't

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<v Billy Newman>know if you use your digital camera you roll back and it's like you know it's like uh 60th of a second

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<v Billy Newman>30th of a second 15th and then it goes down to one second and then eight seconds 10 seconds 20

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<v Billy Newman>seconds most digital cameras now they go to 30 seconds but if you want an exposure longer than 30 seconds

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<v Billy Newman>of leaving that shutter open and the sensor on collecting light you have to use the bulb shutter

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<v Billy Newman>release and i think that's set to to leave the shutter open as long as the shutter button on the

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<v Billy Newman>camera is depressed and so you could use that just as it is with your finger on the button of your

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<v Billy Newman>camera holding it open but that obviously wouldn't work for astrophotography because you'd vibrate the

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<v Billy Newman>camera so much you move around so much that you can do it back in the day like uh like this film

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<v Billy Newman>camera on the desk that we're looking at um you'd use a screw mount piece that would screw into the

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<v Billy Newman>shutter button and then the cable would you press the cable and kind of like uh like your brakes on

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<v Billy Newman>your bike the same way that that cable system works the cable would put pressure out and depress the

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<v Billy Newman>shutter button and then you could screw it down and hold the shutter button depressed on the film

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<v Billy Newman>camera you know when everything was manual uh to leave the shutter open for a really long time if

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<v Billy Newman>you're going to do star trail photos and so that's what this would be leading to is is uh using the

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<v Billy Newman>bulb setting on your digital camera to set to enter a remote shutter with a tripod to set our camera so

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<v Billy Newman>that it can do really long exposures like hour three hour four hour exposures of the sky and i think that'd be

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<v Billy Newman>really fun to to get some cool star trail photos like uh like pointing it up especially this winter or

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<v Billy Newman>or this uh fall as we get a lot more of the activity in the the northeastern sky there's a lot more bright

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<v Billy Newman>stars up there that are going to be kind of pulling up out of the northeast but that'll be really fun is

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<v Billy Newman>to point the camera up toward like the northern horizon if we find a good dark spot for it which

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<v Billy Newman>we should search around for at some point yeah it's hard it's hard to find like good views of the

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<v Billy Newman>northern sky sometimes it seems it seems like you have to go a little ways yeah yeah for us at least in

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<v Billy Newman>our area we do and uh it just seems like it it's bright especially in the summertime the sun's setting

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<v Billy Newman>uh really far to the north up here in oregon at least um so we you know we see it kind of wrap

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<v Billy Newman>around it by the end of the day it's it's really pretty far north so there's a bit of twilight over

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<v Billy Newman>in that area it seems like most of the time but dark in the night you know deep like uh i don't know

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<v Billy Newman>past midnight or so it's it's it's dark and uh there's a lot that we can pick up but i think it'd be

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<v Billy Newman>really cool to set it up for the the northern sky so we can see the the the center point of the

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<v Billy Newman>north star stay still or stay like you know in small rotation and really see the the grad or what

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<v Billy Newman>is it not just the graduation of the the circular effect as we move out from the center point and

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<v Billy Newman>further away so we see that spherical turning of those stars i think it'd be really fun to get some

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<v Billy Newman>of those photos yeah i think it'd be fun to try out some of those photos it's been cool trying to

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<v Billy Newman>get the really sharp ones it'd be cool to get some uh star trail ones too yeah i think uh picking up

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<v Billy Newman>some good star trail photos would be be worth our time i want to try and get into this a lot though

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<v Billy Newman>like we've taken a few this summer we've taken like a handful we've been kind of working on

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<v Billy Newman>how the process of doing astrophotography works but yeah i want to work on that a lot i want to

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<v Billy Newman>try and get like a collection of photos in fact you know they work really well too like uh just you know

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<v Billy Newman>people seem to like people do very much more and uh or you know a lot they engage with them more which

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<v Billy Newman>is cool and i want to try and find some stuff like that that would be uh be cool to find

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<v Billy Newman>or you know photos that people like that i take that'd be cool yeah this is a good genre for you

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<v Billy Newman>you like stars a lot too well yeah i always liked uh taking photos at night in fact i should have

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<v Billy Newman>probably stayed with it more in college but at the time the technology really wasn't uh there as

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<v Billy Newman>well oh yeah or at least the cameras i had you know they were like the cheap kind of student level

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<v Billy Newman>cameras that were around and i never really had the the lens options to really afford me the ability to

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<v Billy Newman>take the good long exposure night photos uh so my techniques at the time just never really

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<v Billy Newman>developed into something that was really good but i was i always really liked that the long

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<v Billy Newman>exposure at night kind of painting stuff with flashlights to add a little bit more light into

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<v Billy Newman>it or kind of make some cool dynamics in the photo which i wouldn't really want to do more of with you

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<v Billy Newman>too with uh i'd like to push toward doing stuff at night i want to do more night stuff it was a great

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<v Billy Newman>great way to learn photography too

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<v Billy Newman>great way to learn photography too

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<v Billy Newman>great way to learn photography too

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<v Billy Newman>great way to learn photography too

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<v Billy Newman>person or company it was that said they were going to build this product so they just went out of

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<v Billy Newman>business with the money and they're not indebted to anyone to provide that at all it's just a pledge

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<v Billy Newman>um it's not really like you're actually making a purchase of anything right it's yeah it's a

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<v Billy Newman>donation or a gift yeah basically yeah it's but it's strange because you you're as like a backer

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<v Billy Newman>you're you're qualified for like certain rewards i don't know like what kind of liability you take

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<v Billy Newman>on when you say that you're going to give out um like certain types of rewards that are of some

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<v Billy Newman>type of cash value um so i don't know it's kind of strange but uh but we're having a good time

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<v Billy Newman>trying to put it together uh the kickstarter page i think is going to be up in a couple days but uh

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<v Billy Newman>it's like for the night sky calendar so we've been trying to like write out sort of like scripts of

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<v Billy Newman>like what to talk about and like what it's going to do and how it's going to work but it's really

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<v Billy Newman>cool we've been trying to sort it out i think it's going to be like it's going to be like a 13 month

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<v Billy Newman>calendar since we're coming up on um end of december january so to go through like uh the first month

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<v Billy Newman>like next year too um but i think it's going to be like a 12 by 12 calendar and we're going to do

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<v Billy Newman>like um just like astronomy art like or sky watching art like kind of perspectives of like

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<v Billy Newman>the land and then like the night sky and stuff above it and uh like that kind of progresses like

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<v Billy Newman>throughout the year so you see like different things all right in the winter as you would see

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<v Billy Newman>in the summer as you would see like august or september and like further on um and then we're

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<v Billy Newman>going to put in like kind of almanac dates of things that are happening so if there's like a solar

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<v Billy Newman>eclipse or a lunar eclipse or if there's like a full you know full moon quarter moon that's what's

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<v Billy Newman>on a regular calendar but then there's like the percy of meteor shower that's like a holiday

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<v Billy Newman>you know or it's like marked in dude i would buy that yeah it'd be sweet so yeah you just sold me

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<v Billy Newman>on that yeah it's sweet so you just flip through and you're like oh sweet like this sky watching

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<v Billy Newman>events going on now or like oh this like conjunction of venus and jupiter is happening from

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<v Billy Newman>like june 23rd to june 27th so like we can so it's just like on the calendar we know and then we

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<v Billy Newman>can like kind of like use that as a guide to go out and see stuff that's going to be happening

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<v Billy Newman>just just out of curiosity would that would that work on a like a worldwide basis or is that would

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<v Billy Newman>that be local to just it'd be better than most things that are out there like when i'm looking

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<v Billy Newman>around but yeah it would work on a worldwide basis if it's about if it's about the constellation

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<v Billy Newman>the meteor showers or or even the eclipses i mean i guess it's effective to say that there's an

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<v Billy Newman>eclipse happening um like i think like all of our calendars would have said that but it's a it's

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<v Billy Newman>an english-based us-based calendar i'd figure so that's kind of what i'm going for like if there's

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<v Billy Newman>um if there's like solar eclipses that are happening outside of uh like over the indian ocean i don't

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<v Billy Newman>know if i'll mention it in fact i kind of want to sell that as an offer in it that it's kind of

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<v Billy Newman>specific to i would actually say i'd specifically say you know for north america yeah that's what uh that's

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<v Billy Newman>what i think would be best to and i noticed that a lot of these calendars that we've been trying to

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<v Billy Newman>use as like a reference like we go through like for next year to see like what astronomical events are

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<v Billy Newman>going to be occurring and then you're like this isn't going to be happening or this isn't as important

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<v Billy Newman>as this calendar is mentioning like it's not like really kind of tuned or like refined to like what's

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<v Billy Newman>important it's just sort of like saying or stating things sort of generally right but and it just

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<v Billy Newman>because whoever is creating it doesn't know anybody you know doesn't have doesn't or isn't trying

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<v Billy Newman>to parse it and try to like figure anything out but like it'll talk about like a conjunction of

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<v Billy Newman>the moon and such and such a planet and like that sounds like it'd be cool but it's either happening

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<v Billy Newman>in the middle of the day so you'll never see it or it's it's not happening and they're just totally

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<v Billy Newman>missing each other but the moon is passing by or next to where the planet would be okay yeah it's

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<v Billy Newman>that kind of thing so um there's just like a lot of these that are sort of like automatic calls that

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<v Billy Newman>it's supposed to it's supposed to note or it's supposed to talk or you know mention or something

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<v Billy Newman>um but it's just not really like human controlled or like really made to be super useful yeah that

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<v Billy Newman>sounds awful yeah i would just throw it away yeah so this one's supposed to be uh kind of away from

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<v Billy Newman>like the astrophysics side or like the heavy-handed science side and it's supposed to be more for

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<v Billy Newman>like fun it's it's going to be like illustrated so it's going to be more like kind of whimsical

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<v Billy Newman>for your family and everyone can yeah yeah you just kind of cruise through and or yeah it's just

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<v Billy Newman>kind of pretty stuff but it's not supposed to be like um like there's a lot of them out there like

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<v Billy Newman>like the astronomy calendars that i'd see out there you know like nebula and like hubble telescope

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<v Billy Newman>images that sort of thing which are really cool but i think the cool thing about the year is that

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<v Billy Newman>the stars change through it and i think that like a cool calendar would be to kind of like mirror

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<v Billy Newman>how the constellations are changing or like what stuff is happening happening differently um as an

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<v Billy Newman>observer of the sky right and like what happens uh what happens otherwise so that's what we're going

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<v Billy Newman>to try and do but uh we're trying to like put it together now and so that's what the the kickstarter is

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<v Billy Newman>going to be to there to support and uh and then we have the website address too so we'll try and like

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<v Billy Newman>wrap all that stuff up and then we're going to try and put together um like a short like one minute 90

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<v Billy Newman>second kickstarter video to go with it as it launches and then um yeah it'll be cool we'll have

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<v Billy Newman>that up and running i guess like i don't know next week or something and oh wow yeah that's great

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<v Billy Newman>yeah it'll be sweet if we if we can do it um or if like the if the kickstarter is backed i think

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<v Billy Newman>the way that kickstarter works specifically is that uh you have to reach your funding goal before

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<v Billy Newman>you'll get any of the money so like uh so if you set a goal of like a thousand dollars but you reach

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<v Billy Newman>eight hundred dollars you don't you don't get it or you don't so everybody nobody gets nobody has to

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<v Billy Newman>pay for anything and it just kind of just kind of goes on but uh i think the idea is that you're

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<v Billy Newman>trying to like get it effectively funded um for whatever price and i think like the price that you

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<v Billy Newman>say is supposed to be like whatever i don't know if it's supposed to really be your profit but like

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<v Billy Newman>whatever like your share of it is and the cost of like the wholesale production of it and like to get

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<v Billy Newman>it to them as a product i think it's sort of the idea so like like i think like one of the original

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<v Billy Newman>ones was like like for publishing stuff like this really is a pretty simple way for kickstarter to

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<v Billy Newman>work or for like a band trying to like make an album they're like well it would cost twenty five hundred

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<v Billy Newman>bucks to go print you know a thousand cds and so we need we need like like a thousand ten dollar donors

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<v Billy Newman>or something to like get stuff going so we can like go to print or we can like take our cd and have it

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<v Billy Newman>published and then give

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<v Billy Newman>and it has this little process mark on it but yeah you throw the throw the thumb drive into

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<v Billy Newman>your computer transfer those uh those files over and they're like a more reasonably compressed

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<v Billy Newman>mp4 or something i think this time or quick time file something like that and yeah drag it over to

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<v Billy Newman>your computer you got a an hour of videotape now convert it over to a digital file so i'm going to

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<v Billy Newman>try and go through that box that i have and see if i can pull out some cool videos from some stuff

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<v Billy Newman>from 2005 to 2008 whatever range of stuff i was recording in that time that'll be kind of fun to

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<v Billy Newman>see really what i'm noticing though is that it's just a lot of junk i really am frustrated now you

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<v Billy Newman>know you kind of think like early on you're like recording some stuff you're recording something

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<v Billy Newman>cool and then it kind of turns out later to be not not super useful it's just not like a really like

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<v Billy Newman>a full contained thing you think man there's a lot of waste in here if i could have eight hours of the

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<v Billy Newman>good stuff that would have been great you know or if you really think about life and like oh what

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<v Billy Newman>eight hours would i want to still see now or you know like what kind of stuff what do i wish i had

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<v Billy Newman>recorded a little bit more of moment to moment and i'm looking at that a little bit through the videos

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<v Billy Newman>that i recorded that are like what is this project and also into the uh photos i record too of like

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<v Billy Newman>you know like the there's some there's some the process of photo stuff is cool but there's some

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<v Billy Newman>nostalgic stuff about photography that uh that really is what grows over the years you know like

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<v Billy Newman>if you're just taking personal photos it's like the moments and the things and the uh the way that

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<v Billy Newman>you sort of interacted with the thing that ends up being a lot more fun to see and look back on than

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<v Billy Newman>uh just sort of the the most plain uh sort of flatly composed vista that you can uh kind of put

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<v Billy Newman>together on a on a viewpoint which is sort of what i ended up having a lot of it just like oh yeah it's

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<v Billy Newman>like a it's like a horizon and then a sky and i don't really know where it is and it's sort of flat

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<v Billy Newman>and okay but uh you know but then there's a lot of stuff that's uh that's pretty cool and sort of

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<v Billy Newman>personal to get to see and that's what the i think the fun stuff is year over year over year so you get

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<v Billy Newman>kind of further down the road but i uh wanted to talk a little bit about the perseid meteor shower

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<v Billy Newman>that had come up a while back now in early august it was cool getting to see that hopefully you guys

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<v Billy Newman>make some observations of some meteors that were going by i got to do a couple camping trips

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<v Billy Newman>during that time i think like at the end of july one comet neowise was cruising over some of you guys

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<v Billy Newman>probably got to see that that was cool but during like the end of july is when the perseus start kind

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<v Billy Newman>of ramping up and then uh it's pretty light it's like it's a chance that you'll see a meteorite or you

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<v Billy Newman>know a meteor streak across the sky during the evening sky uh during those weeks but it really starts to

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<v Billy Newman>kick up and peak i think it's a august 10th 11th and 12th sort of in that range 9th 10th 11th 12th

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<v Billy Newman>but really i think like the 10th 11th is when it it's um it's the nights to see it and it's cool

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<v Billy Newman>on nights or on years that the that the meteor shower is really peaking i think it can be like up to 50 or

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<v Billy Newman>almost 60 an hour that you'd be projected to see i've seen a lot of really cool ones before that

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<v Billy Newman>it's been uh pretty fun or you just go like whoa man i'm just seeing like a lot of shooting stars like

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<v Billy Newman>um throughout the sky so it was cool this year i went out for a couple different sightings of it i

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<v Billy Newman>think uh like that during that last podcast that i was talking about was probably one of

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<v Billy Newman>uh the better observation nights that i had when i was up on top of that mountain peak out in eastern

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<v Billy Newman>oregon it was really uh beautiful it was a really dark night you could you could see really uh crisply into

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<v Billy Newman>the milky way and into kind of the little filament light structures to sort of make up the edges and

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<v Billy Newman>boundaries of the milky way and then how dark it gets as it kind of falls off that into the the deep

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<v Billy Newman>space part of the night sky it's really cool to to kind of check out and look at that and uh and that

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<v Billy Newman>was a lot of fun getting to uh go out there look at the sky look at the milky way watch the perseids

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<v Billy Newman>as it kind of started to kick in a little bit more after midnight so i stayed up till about

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<v Billy Newman>about 2 a.m that night and i probably saw uh it's probably 15 or or nearly 20 pretty good ones

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<v Billy Newman>there's a there's a bunch of spitters that were kind of coming through there but there was really

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<v Billy Newman>like a lot of good ones that i was able to see um kind of later or over that night and the night

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<v Billy Newman>before and uh it's cool when you get to uh see a few of them that they really kind of stretch off

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<v Billy Newman>across like a lot of different parts of the sky i think they're the idea of the perseids is that

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<v Billy Newman>they're sort of originating out of the constellation of perseus up in the the northeast

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<v Billy Newman>part of the sky but really you can see him uh shooting out down into like sagittarius and scorpio

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<v Billy Newman>in the south or way out past like arcturus um as you get like a little bit further over into the

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<v Billy Newman>the western sky but yeah it was cool getting to check out the meteor shower getting to see some of

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<v Billy Newman>those uh bright tubes that are left behind these like plasma tubes that are left behind is uh one of

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<v Billy Newman>the bigger uh meteorites kind of cruises through burns up and leaves this kind of tube of i guess

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<v Billy Newman>hot air hot ionized air and it kind of glows for about a second or so in the sky you can kind of see

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<v Billy Newman>it as it then sort of zips and wisps away as it sort of evaporates and cools back down but it's fun

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<v Billy Newman>yeah being out there watching a few uh meteor or meteor shoot by that was fun um and then yeah

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<v Billy Newman>really a great part of uh august and some of the observations that you get to do is get to check out

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<v Billy Newman>the meteor shower i guess there's meteor showers through other parts of the year too like i think

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<v Billy Newman>there's supposed to be well it's probably a couple more weeks i think there's like another really good

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<v Billy Newman>one that comes up in october that we normally miss there's another good one i think it's like the

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<v Billy Newman>leonid maybe it's a leonid shower that's in november um but for a lot of us in the northern hemisphere by

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<v Billy Newman>that time it's just like clouded over enough or the the way that the weather's working just makes it so

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<v Billy Newman>that you're not really able to make the kind of observations of uh of the meteor showers you'd

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<v Billy Newman>like to i suppose even when like i was in hawaii a while back and um i was trying to make observations

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<v Billy Newman>of some of those things that i hadn't been able to do during the winter months here in oregon

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<v Billy Newman>and a lot of that stuff i really wasn't able to see uh in the way that i would have hoped to

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<v Billy Newman>um or yeah just like the observations of it like were just i don't know kind of kind of difficult to

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<v Billy Newman>make so really like yeah the percyd meteor shower was always one of the coolest ones because it's uh

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<v Billy Newman>it's kind of it's it's right there kind of right in a good season where you get to check it out and

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<v Billy Newman>in a good location for a lot of us here in the northern hemisphere and stuff

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<v Billy Newman>so

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<v Billy Newman>you

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