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Title: The Night Sky Podcast Episode 24: Winter Elk Herds in High Desert | Viewing Comet Catalina in Twilight

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<v Billy Newman>Welcome to The Night Sky Podcast. Astronomy guides, seasonal constellation tracking, planetary observations, and deep sky astrophotography.

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<v Billy Newman>i appreciate you guys checking out this uh this episode this recording i'm out here at the wildlife

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<v Billy Newman>refuge now started the new year and it's a bit of a break in the weather it's nice and clear right now

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<v Billy Newman>and i'm up at a rise just after sunset i'm kind of looking out over uh some of the land out here

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<v Billy Newman>it's cool earlier i was over at uh clearing and uh and there's like a herd of elk that's in

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<v Billy Newman>wintering now which is pretty cool it wasn't here a few weeks ago when i was uh back over in

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<v Billy Newman>this area but uh yeah like i've been kind of coming over here sort of through december and i

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<v Billy Newman>haven't really seen too many of them but it's cool now looking at uh the section of a field over here

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<v Billy Newman>it was cool there was like i think like probably almost 30 of them i think but uh most of them were

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<v Billy Newman>cows i have my binoculars and so i was able to to pull up and i saw i think i saw two with a pretty

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<v Billy Newman>good rack of antlers on them it was cool the elk antlers look pretty neat you know just the shape

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<v Billy Newman>and structure of it and stuff so it was cool seeing them out here i've only seen them out here

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<v Billy Newman>that close at least like a few times i think like last year we were able to spot them up out in the

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<v Billy Newman>field this spring i saw one of them roaming around just by itself out in the field and then um

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<v Billy Newman>years ago yeah i remember seeing them out in that same field it's cool when they're all kind of

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<v Billy Newman>standing at attention you know just kind of up and moving around and stuff it's pretty cool today

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<v Billy Newman>they were just they're just kind of bedded down hanging out in uh in an open field and uh getting

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<v Billy Newman>some sun and stuff is kind of fun i think today it was pretty cold it was like you know 30 degrees

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<v Billy Newman>or something today so it's kind of cool that uh that they're out there hanging out and stuff and

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<v Billy Newman>yeah now that it's evening it's uh i don't know it's not uh bad out here it's been pretty busy

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<v Billy Newman>though today i think there's a lot like a lot of people that are up and about roaming around and

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<v Billy Newman>traveling through the uh the wildlife refuge area out here but it's been kind of cool a few weeks ago

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<v Billy Newman>now there was um there was the great conjunction which is pretty cool i'm gonna talk about this more

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<v Billy Newman>in the night sky podcast you can check that one out too and i'm gonna have i think uh i think new

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<v Billy Newman>episodes of that coming out every month on the first um that kind of covers some of the some of

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<v Billy Newman>the stuff that's going on in the sky for the month which would be cool i'm gonna try and do a

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<v Billy Newman>report of that every month but i'm gonna have one specific on the great conjunction of uh of jupiter

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<v Billy Newman>and saturn and then i'm gonna have some additional stuff for certainly out january 1st uh so there

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<v Billy Newman>should be one out right now that you can check out unless i'm a couple days behind but um but yeah

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<v Billy Newman>the one for january 1st should be out covering the information for the night sky here in january which

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<v Billy Newman>is cool a couple planets are moving around saturn and jupiter kind of separating and then also fading

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<v Billy Newman>off into the morning sky and then we're also going to start dealing with uh with venus more too

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<v Billy Newman>which is cool i think if you're up in the morning you'll see like a bunch of them together

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<v Billy Newman>out here in uh in a couple weeks in january but a couple weeks ago yeah i think on like december

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<v Billy Newman>21st is when they were at their closest and then i've been watching them for the weeks uh since then

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<v Billy Newman>like kind of after christmas and then up into the new year they're all both pretty close to each other

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<v Billy Newman>and even now like in the evening i can kind of still see them uh like just after sunset which is

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<v Billy Newman>cool but uh jupiter and saturn were really quite close to each other it was cool that you could kind

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<v Billy Newman>of cover them both up with uh with like your thumb if it was extended out so i think that means

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<v Billy Newman>they're closer together than like the the width of a full moon they're really quite close together

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<v Billy Newman>like two two little points out in the sky and uh they move away from each other fast too that's

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<v Billy Newman>what i was surprised by is that they kind of came together at their closest point and then the next

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<v Billy Newman>night you know it's it's a bit of distance away from each other you're thinking oh man wow that's

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<v Billy Newman>like when you kind of think about it in the sky you're like wow that's you know a significant

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<v Billy Newman>amount of motion and in just a day and but it's strange though to think that it's going to take

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<v Billy Newman>another 19 years of that to get back into the same position where they're at another great conjunction

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<v Billy Newman>and i suppose it won't be as close of a conjunction as it was this time i think this time was especially

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<v Billy Newman>close in their uh in their conjunction most of the time they're kind of they're kind of a little bit

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<v Billy Newman>away from each other just with the the angles that the two or our orbit and then those two planets

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<v Billy Newman>orbits kind of kind of make up an alignment to each other but i guess it was back in the 1600s

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<v Billy Newman>that was the last time that we had a great conjunction of jupiter and saturn that was as

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<v Billy Newman>close as what we were able to see a couple nights ago so that was cool getting to getting to spot it

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<v Billy Newman>and check it out for a while i had a lot of fun i'm getting to get the spot jupiter and saturn and

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<v Billy Newman>a great conjunction it's pretty cool especially around like december 21st when it was at its uh

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<v Billy Newman>its darkest days there that was kind of cool and uh and also like if you kind of go back to the

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<v Billy Newman>stories of like the the star of bethlehem i think there's an idea that i think it was introduced by

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<v Billy Newman>kepler back in the early 1600s where um where the idea was that uh a great conjunction of jupiter and

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<v Billy Newman>saturn and maybe mars uh or another planet uh was what was seen by or noticed by the three wise men

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<v Billy Newman>as the star of bethlehem so it's kind of cool that that was right before christmas

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<v Billy Newman>and uh sort of a fun fun sign and stuff but uh but yeah beautiful to see and it's kind of a cool and

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<v Billy Newman>sort of rare event to see them that close together so it's kind of a fun probably mostly once in a

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<v Billy Newman>lifetime event to see uh those two planets that close together i think though in a few weeks we're

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<v Billy Newman>going to have a pretty close pass of venus and jupiter but i think that's like real early in the

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<v Billy Newman>morning it's going to be kind of difficult to see it's still going to be like the glow of the sun

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<v Billy Newman>but uh but yeah i think we're going to start start dealing with venus more too but yeah first uh first

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<v Billy Newman>week of january stuff i just uh put up a uh a wallpaper on my blog i'm going to be trying to do

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<v Billy Newman>this every month and i'm pretty happy to do it i think it's kind of cool but i'm going through and

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<v Billy Newman>i'm picking out a series of photographs of 12 photographs and making a calendar out of it and

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<v Billy Newman>if you're interested in picking up a digital uh wallpaper for your phone or for your computer you

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<v Billy Newman>can go to billynewmanphoto.com check out the latest blog for the january

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<v Billy Newman>wallpaper for 2021 and there's a link there to download a uh a wallpaper sized high resolution image

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<v Billy Newman>of uh

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<v Billy Newman>of comet catalina and it looks like it has kind of a green color to it which i think is

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<v Billy Newman>copper that's probably wrong i heard that that's what it used to be if it was ionizing the gas

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<v Billy Newman>you would see green gas and if it was like oxygen you would see red gas or blue gas i can't forget

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<v Billy Newman>now i think red gas is hydrogen and blue gas ionized is oxygen but there's like sort of these

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<v Billy Newman>these little yeah there's these little like tricks or i don't even know if it's a trick but there's

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<v Billy Newman>just a certain spectrum of life that's put out by an ionizing gas and it depends on what type of gas

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<v Billy Newman>it is and what kind of visible color that we see from it which i think is kind of kind of interesting

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<v Billy Newman>but when they're looking at deep space objects they can look at the ionized gas and then identify

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<v Billy Newman>what the material makeup is of it based on the type of color that's being ionized off that celestial

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<v Billy Newman>body so you look at like a nebula or you look at a shooting star or you look at a few other things

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<v Billy Newman>you can kind of identify its material makeup which is cool that's what i hear as it burns up in the

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<v Billy Newman>atmosphere for an asteroid like a comet when photographing a comet because like we talked about

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<v Billy Newman>before there's two tails and uh there's like the physical tail of debris that's being left behind and

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<v Billy Newman>there's there's a lot of great comments over the last century like stuff before we were born

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<v Billy Newman>of these really cool comments that are passing over the sky and you see these really intense physical

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<v Billy Newman>tails all the dust and debris all the snow and or you know the ice that would be like breaking off

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<v Billy Newman>the comet as it passes out and goes by the sun and then out gases all this extra material as it

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<v Billy Newman>starts to heat up or as it surface heats up so it's coming into a close pass by the sun and then going

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<v Billy Newman>back out um but the other tail that we see is going to be like the solar wind tail or this uh this field

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<v Billy Newman>of ionized gas that blows away from the direction of the sun and so that's why you'll you'll often see

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<v Billy Newman>comets with two tails so one of them's going to be sort of a it could be an orange color or it could

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<v Billy Newman>be um just like a physical color like a gray color or white color uh that looks kind of like a mist and

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<v Billy Newman>then there's going to be another tail that's blue and the blue tail often or as i saw seen before was

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<v Billy Newman>like uh the ionized tail the second tail coming off the comet that uh that was like the ionized gas

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<v Billy Newman>that was pushed out from the sun so the sun's energy kind of pushes out to the comet and then think

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<v Billy Newman>of like um like looking at your shadow near sunset on like a summer day where it's really long you can

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<v Billy Newman>see it way down the road it's kind of that same idea if you're thinking about this tail created by

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<v Billy Newman>solar wind is that when the sun hits it it's sort of that place where the shadow is and it kind of

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<v Billy Newman>blows out this uh this big area of a solar wind like past the comet and i think that's what we see

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<v Billy Newman>is ionized gas and uh and sort of a blue colored second tail it's cool but so uh you might be able to

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<v Billy Newman>still see that for just a couple more days i think catalina is going to be uh sort of sun setting as

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<v Billy Newman>it moves in quite a bit closer to the sun over this next week and then i think we're going to

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<v Billy Newman>not be able to observe it anymore it's going to be on the other side of the sun so it's going to make

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<v Billy Newman>its big swing around the sun and once it does that it's going to be in the sun so it won't be observable

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<v Billy Newman>and then it'll be up during the day and then kind of heading back out on its other side of the solar

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<v Billy Newman>system so our close pass to it will be uh i don't know however many more years out in the future

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<v Billy Newman>until we see it next but yeah it's cool it's cool we'll comment in the morning sky so that's

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<v Billy Newman>where the big business is right now for uh for sky watching is the morning sky you're gonna have

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<v Billy Newman>jupiter up in the morning you're gonna have mars up in the morning and then you're also going to see

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<v Billy Newman>venus too i think if you stay up late enough like near the centers you're going to be able to see venus

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<v Billy Newman>which is really cool so i think if you're trying to identify catalina it'll be up in the sky from venus

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<v Billy Newman>but i think it would be sort of the third end of a triangle if you were to try and draw a spot

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<v Billy Newman>between um i think it'd be like arcturus and spica and then there's going to be sort of a point

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<v Billy Newman>in between there where catalina is um out in the sky and that'll be in the eastern sky uh near dawn

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<v Billy Newman>i think is when you'd be able to see that but you probably find great information out at like

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<v Billy Newman>skyandtelescope.com or space.com one of those sources everything they're covering right now is all

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<v Billy Newman>about comet news this week um so i don't know it'd be kind of cool i'm excited to uh try and do some

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<v Billy Newman>observations of that and um i don't know get to see some planets too be a lot of fun yeah we need

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<v Billy Newman>to find some clear skies and speaking of clear skies we're trying to find and trying to build for

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<v Billy Newman>ourselves we're working on a kickstarter campaign right now um you can go to night sky.io to get a

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<v Billy Newman>link over to our kickstarter project uh we've got this night sky.io calendar the night sky uh calendar

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<v Billy Newman>for 2016 and we're really excited to be putting it together that's like a lot of the the work that

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<v Billy Newman>we've been doing this week is trying to put together the art um for this calendar and then

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<v Billy Newman>also start start to work on the in design document that's going to be the uh the template for the

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<v Billy Newman>calendars we put it together which is going to be full of specific facts and calendar dates to kind

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<v Billy Newman>of remind people of uh different media showers that are going to be happening or different like a

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<v Billy Newman>opportunity of a solar eclipse or the definite possible or option of the lunar eclipse that's going to be

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<v Billy Newman>happening in march we're going to be tracking a lot of the dates that are the planets uh moving in and

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<v Billy Newman>out of constellations or being specifically visible at night and i think that's going to be really cool

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<v Billy Newman>i'm excited to to kind of draw on all the specific interesting little details that we see in the night

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<v Billy Newman>sky but it's a it's a 12 by 12 inch printed and illustrated calendar of the night sky so it's

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<v Billy Newman>demonstrating like kind of the specific things that we're going to see the constellations that are

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<v Billy Newman>going to be up for that time or that time of year and for that month so um in june of 2016 there's

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<v Billy Newman>going to be uh saturn and mars both in scorpio and mars is going to stop its retrograde uh movement

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<v Billy Newman>across the southern sky and then it's going to start moving uh toward the western or toward the western

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<v Billy Newman>horizon again and so we might try and identify that as some cool type of observation that we can

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<v Billy Newman>make or that we can all look at is kind of identifying that and tracking mars across the sky we can kind

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<v Billy Newman>of note that in the calendar as we go but there's a lot of fun ideas that we're going to have like that

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<v Billy Newman>that are going to be uh yeah and that's one thing i want to try and be be really good at is uh there's

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<v Billy Newman>a lot of content

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<v Billy Newman>you

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<v Billy Newman>is identify like cool constellations or specific constellations that you can see up above you at

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<v Billy Newman>that time or in during that month in the night sky and so it's supposed to be kind of an introductory

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<v Billy Newman>or like interesting sort of whimsical look at astronomy and at the night sky and as something

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<v Billy Newman>that's a little bit of a shift away from the astrophysics side of astronomy that seems to

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<v Billy Newman>have been um i don't know if popularized is the right word but it seems to be what a lot of uh

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<v Billy Newman>astronomy education is about it's a lot of terms and use of stuff that is uh you know it's just like

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<v Billy Newman>um how would i i guess the best way to say is they're not really showing you the constellations

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<v Billy Newman>not showing you where the planets are how to find them or how to recognize it how to identify things

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<v Billy Newman>that physically exist around you how to see the way the world turns throughout the year

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<v Billy Newman>and that's cool and that's what i want to try and explain a lot of the astrophysics or astronomy class

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<v Billy Newman>presentation of the information is is saying that that is a main sequence star or this is 30 solar

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<v Billy Newman>masses but not really getting into i can see this from my house and now i know why i can see that

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<v Billy Newman>and so that's what i want to i want to try and get into a little bit more is uh uh this just more

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<v Billy Newman>to me what i find more interesting about um making observations about the night sky seeing the way the

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<v Billy Newman>earth moves seeing where the planets move and uh or just kind of identifying you know just where

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<v Billy Newman>things are in the sky i think that's a really great thing to have and it just really re i don't

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<v Billy Newman>know i think it it informs you know what i understand about where i am in this really big way that i think

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<v Billy Newman>people that uh that don't really take the time to get into that or to get to notice uh they just

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<v Billy Newman>won't really really see or have so i'm really excited to get this kickstarter project up and off the

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<v Billy Newman>ground i think we're going to be launching it um this weekend or over the next couple days i'm trying

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<v Billy Newman>to put together the uh the kickstarter video right now so we're we're kind of uh doing a couple a

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<v Billy Newman>couple pieces but video editing for me always takes way longer than it should um the other part too i

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<v Billy Newman>think i want to do and i've talked about that on the podcast before i'm going to do a night sky

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<v Billy Newman>podcast i want it to be like a little shorter and a little tighter and a little bit more focused on

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<v Billy Newman>like following up with the calendar this is what you're going to see tonight and you know it'll be

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<v Billy Newman>just kind of some kind of play to help get the 2017 calendar off the ground that's what i'll try and do

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<v Billy Newman>but some kind of like week by week thing of hey tonight check out the heavenly g up now it's in

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<v Billy Newman>or you know you'll see it in the evening sky if you go out in february the moon's going to be down

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<v Billy Newman>you're going to see uh like capella and pristine and like gemini like castor and pollux and gemini

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<v Billy Newman>and sirius and rigel and what would it be like the pleiades and then in like beetlejuice in orion

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<v Billy Newman>and there's just all these cool things that you can go out and see these features of the night sky

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<v Billy Newman>that'll kind of help you kind of format or see like and understand um the stuff that's above you

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<v Billy Newman>in the night so i don't know it'd be really cool i'm looking forward to putting the project

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<v Billy Newman>together and uh yeah you'll be able to uh order i think on the kickstarter uh starting at the

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<v Billy Newman>beginning of this next week and i'll give you the url uh in the next podcast when that comes out

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<v Billy Newman>um and i think that yeah you can order it you can put put a pledge toward to uh to order a calendar

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<v Billy Newman>or to just help us out if you're interested and i think that uh that after that point then you can

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<v Billy Newman>like put in an order for a calendar also if you're interested in it but uh but yeah it'll be

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<v Billy Newman>really cool i think it'll be fun to do um i guess moving on uh for a couple more minutes of the

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<v Billy Newman>podcast i uh i put together or i'm working on right now this fall photo shoot and uh it's been kind of

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<v Billy Newman>a pain but uh but it's been good too it's it's strange like learning how to put together photo

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<v Billy Newman>shoot pieces because a lot of the time i'm working with someone else um a lot of the time the very few

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<v Billy Newman>times that i'm working for efforts for a photograph that go outside of what i'm interested in like if

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<v Billy Newman>i'm working or if i'm working for someone else you know if i'm trying to take someone else's picture

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<v Billy Newman>there's a lot of compromises that you have to make um to kind of get through it or to get to what

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<v Billy Newman>you're after and sometimes those are good or sometimes those are effective or they help you

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<v Billy Newman>stretch and then sometimes those are kind of limiting um i'm not sure which one i guess this

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<v Billy Newman>would be but uh but it's just interesting kind of getting used to the idea of setting up or organizing

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<v Billy Newman>all the uh the art or the logistic side of things um before a photo shoot happens so i'm trying to do

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<v Billy Newman>uh this like outdoor adventure tourism shoot uh with a couple vehicles uh against like these poplar

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<v Billy Newman>trees that are now like turned um really kind of bright bright yellow and a little bit of orange

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<v Billy Newman>as their leaves are starting to fall or at least as their leaves were starting to fall

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<v Billy Newman>10 days ago they probably all fallen by now that i'll have an unfortunate surprise to find tomorrow

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<v Billy Newman>when we go to shoot um but that's not true there enough there um so there's this area where we're

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<v Billy Newman>going to pull up and then uh like photograph against uh against the backdrop of these really

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<v Billy Newman>cool um poplar trees that are there these really cool you know bright orange fall colors

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<v Billy Newman>that we can try and blow out in the background of it or just kind of try and stage or make some kind

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<v Billy Newman>of faux arrangement in front of that um so we can have some kind of you know nicer i think it'll be

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<v Billy Newman>like a print advertisement or like social media post something like that but it'll be an interesting

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<v Billy Newman>project to try and do and i'm happy to get to do something like that this uh this time around i'm

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<v Billy Newman>trying to go through a little bit of the gear that i'm going to be trying to use on that tomorrow so

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<v Billy Newman>it'll mostly be digital but i really want to get through it with some film photographs also

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<v Billy Newman>because i think we're doing um a few different vehicles or a few different vehicle types um

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<v Billy Newman>you know kind of in this area uh to shoot against it'll be more like for for like advertisement or

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<v Billy Newman>like product photography and it won't really be as much uh experiential or like lifestyle um as much as

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<v Billy Newman>i'd really like to do more lifestyle stuff it just doesn't seem to be within the capacity of

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<v Billy Newman>uh you know the resources around me to get that done but um but i think this kind of product

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<v Billy Newman>idea would be really cool uh to bring in a couple of these uh these nice vehicles and then uh get

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<v Billy Newman>them photographed in this uh this kind of specific setting but we're really fortunate it's in the

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<v Billy Newman>willamette valley it's uh it's uh really just a few minutes away from where everything is right now so we

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<v Billy Newman>don't have to do that much that much effort but i've just been kind of learning about coordinating

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<v Billy Newman>with these other people like all right you're gonna need to drive this you're gonna need to drive this

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