158 Early Chanterelle Season
Scouting for Chanterelle mushroom areas. Camping around hunting season. Photography gigs at properties damaged by the fires.
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158 Billy Newman Photo podcast mixdown Early Chanterelle Season
Hello, and thank you very much for listening to this episode of The Billy Newman photo podcast. Appreciate you guys checking this one out. It’s been falling off for this last week. So we got a good bit of rain that had come down for a while here in the northern Oregon area, I was looking on the map on the like radar map the weather map, and it was showing like a pretty good bit of rain that was hitting, I think I call across the wall. Now across the west coast, but all across the Northwest area is, I think it’s all like going up into British Columbia pretty far. But I think for this week, it’s supposed to be dry, as like, we wait for the next system to kind of push through, and it was kind of weird to kind of change the weather pattern there a little bit, but I think it’s been going okay for the fire recovery stuff. So a lot to do and a lot going on. And a man like I’m sure like some of the state highways that cut across the Cascades are going to be shot for probably most of the winter, I wonder if they’re going to recover in that way, you know, like just with some of the towns that are just no longer there, they’re gonna have to take a long time to rebuild but all the fire damage of, of trees and stuff, they’re going to be down the road, and then all the potential damage that’s going to come from this winter, as we get heavier rains, heavier snowfall on those broken trees, the ash in the mud and stuff. And I guess there’s like a high risk of a mudslide on yours that follows a big fire like this. So that’d be, I guess, a bigger concern too, now that we’re talking about some areas that have pretty highly populated highway systems that travel through those passes. So we’ll be I’m sure they’re gonna try and survey to recover that stuff safely. But I don’t know if they’ve had this large scale of a problem, at least in this in the state of Oregon as I can ever remember ever recall. I don’t recall something like this specifically in places like a place like Washington or California. But there must have been other projects that were similar to this in the past that had been pretty significant problems of burn areas and mountainous regions near populated areas. But I think it’s really kind of a unique zone to the northwest. So I don’t know if we’ve had that kind of burn before, at least like in this kind of modern time when we’re as populated and with such developed road systems that go around, but I think we’re gonna see some of those roads close for a while now. But, yeah, as we kind of move into the fall, getting close to the October coming on, it’s kind of cool that Yeah, monster kind of moving by seems like fall as you kind of walk around and stuff. You know, I started kind of poking around a little bit for some chanterelle mushrooms. I think it’s probably a good time of year. These next couple of weeks for sure will be in a while I guess like the conditions change for it so quickly that they can come on just within, like what you know, a couple of days of of a change in the weather. And now that it’s the right time of season, the right temperature, you know, I’ve seen like a ring of other like an artist garden wonder what it would be like just like toadstools yard, mushrooms popping up in a ring. In a few places. It’s kind of weird how they just kind of wait to this the right time of year, or whatever the conditions are that that causes their micro Raizel relationship to interact the right way. And then they fruit out all these mushrooms, and you see these Yeah, rings little populations of mushrooms around. So it’s kind of weird. Yeah, like out like into a field. Well, his drive, and you see, like a patch of mushrooms growing in an area that had already been tilled for the year or something, we think we know that he just comes up there, there’s a spot under an apple tree that we’ve got. And that pops up a ring of like white toast or mushrooms every year, and it seems like or like a couple of times a year, I think, like maybe once spring and now like once in the fall that I’ve kind of noticed the last couple years. So it’s kind of interesting how there are these these little patterns like that. But similarly, there are some patterns to the Shawn trail mushroom growth too. So I think that now that we’re in this section of October, and I think probably for the next month or so, we’ll probably have pretty fair conditions. If it kind of stays wet, I think it might be a little too dry right now. But if it still was a little bit damp from the heavier rains that we got with the last storm, then there are some forested areas that that might start populating up some mushrooms, but that’s where I’m trying to just kind of go around and start scouting out a couple of roads and a couple of areas that I want to go back and check out at some other future time. So it’s kind of cool. I’m kind of going out to some Forest Service roads and stuff, getting some gear packed up and pack in a backpack and some binoculars so I can kind of scout around and check out some birds and stuff that’s gonna kind of fun spot a couple of hawks or I think I’ve seen I think it was like earlier this year. I’ve seen turkeys and their turkeys run around the woods and stuff. It’s kind of fun when you spot some of that stuff, but it’s been cool hadn’t had into the coastal range mountains and trying to hunt around for some good chanterelle picking spots, I guess what you’re supposed to look for, are, are like Fern, growing beneath evergreen trees and sort of an open forest floor environment, I think that they don’t really grow around deciduous trees that have like a good bit of leaf fall during this time of year. But it’s kind of interesting to you know; there’s sort of some strange things where there are definitely some places where it Wow, they just like really grow, boom, they’re just growing there. And even in circumstances where there are hard conditions or where it’s not, it’s not an optimal condition for mushrooms to be growing. You’ll find them in those really good spots and be like, wow, you know, they’re here, but they’re really not anywhere else. But I swear, it’s weird. Coming up here, probably sometime in the next two weeks, there’s going to be just the right conditions where they just seem to pop up everywhere, where a lot of the time where they wouldn’t have popped up in another location Are you know, at another time and other conditions that popping up right now. And it seems to be when it’s warmer and wetter out? before there’s like a colder snap or freeze or something. But I remember going out last year, and we were just driving on a forest road that we’ve been on a number of times before, even during that time of year, and never really seen anything that we were picking up on shows just off the side of the road in the moss, or like up against the mass of the for injuries and stuff. All over, we picked up like, you know, bags, we like had almost stopped because we were just like, well, I guess we kind of had space and like what are we going to do with these so. So it’s kind of cool, like when you can, you can really find a bunch of stuff out there. Sometimes though, the conditions are kind of tight, and sometimes, especially like maybe a year like this the the there’s a lot of people that go out to try and pick too. So there’s kind of some things around that that are a little tricky. But yeah, I think if you’re on public land, though you can forage for Shawn trails, or I think Morales without a permit, then you should look that up a little bit. I guess there are some rules around like picking and not picking. And there’s sort of some ways that you can do it, and you can’t do it. And I guess that there’s also like a sale of a permit if you want to use those mushrooms commercially like I think I’d heard before. Like, if you go, you pick a couple of pounds of mushrooms in a box, and then you can if you have a permit, and yeah, like I don’t know, some kind of structured relationship already, you can go to like a local restaurant and sell those on trails off at a, you know, a market rate. And I’ve heard of people doing that before, as part of a job to work. It’s kinda interesting. But yeah, we’re kind of coming up into the chanterelle picking season. So that’ll be kind of fun to go around Scott around some stuff. But thinking about the fire stuff, too, and kind of some of the photography stuff, I haven’t really seen any, any direct damage, or like I haven’t been to an area yet that was close enough to see where part of the forest burned, or were part of the populated areas that burned. So that’ll be strange, I guess kind of finally see, but when I was looking around at, I got a notification for it was this job, this photo job that’s out there. And I’ve been seeing like a few of these pop up, where I think it’s maybe people that don’t live in the area. I’ve seen these jobs before. In other other circumstances, you know, like unrelated to fire or unrelated damage, but where people from another area need to get a number of photographs of a property, or a piece of land or a lot that they own or that they intend to buy. And it’s like owned by someone else. So they try and like pay someone you know, like hey, like I’m gonna I don’t want to drive to say for myself in Oregon, I don’t want to drive to Montana to look at a piece of land yet. I will want to get when it gets close or something, but I want someone else that’s in the area to take 45 photographs of it for me and then mail those to me, and I’ll pay him $300 or something like that. So I’ve seen like kind of some gigs like that. And it’s been it’s probably less than 300 bucks a lot of the time. But I’ve seen a lot of a lot of jobs like that around in the past before. This time though. Now, after all these forest fires, I was looking at this job that was lined up, and it’s asking for a photographer to go in a photograph a mobile home lot in an area that I’m certain was hit by the fire. So I guess my suspicion is that they own a couple lots in the area or they own a property that’s related to the lots around there, but they don’t live there. And so they’re trying to have a photographer come in. And I think photograph like as what’s there was laughter What had happened. I guess there’s probably a lot of people that are trying to get some information or get some some visual on what had happened in that Their area or if they’re, their section is no longer in a restricted zone, they’re trying to figure out what like, like, did I have any damage? Or you know, what happened over there? What was the smoke damage? What was it like? So I think there’s some some property owners that are trying to get some, some reconnaissance information about whatever was going on with their, their property near and around the fire that had burned. So yeah, looking at a couple of those jobs, I don’t think I’m gonna take that kind of job. But if you’re interested in it, go ahead and apply, check it out. I don’t know really how that works, I don’t think you can get into an area that was still being in a restricted zone, or you like a burn zone, if you’re not like a property owner. Or if you don’t have, it seems like some some kind of better, specific, I mean, I guess you’re a photographer, but it just seems sort of like a light activity for an emergency zone. So I think it’s probably some areas that are like maybe more of the perimeters of that a little bit outside of the area that would have been damaged or something, but it would be affected by it. So I think there’s still like another level one, level two, and level three evacuation zones. Level three was like leave now level two is like, get ready to go right now. And over three was get your things together to be prepared to leave, man. No fun. So I think it’s probably some of the areas that were outside of those immediate evacuation zones. And there’s some people trying to get some information that probably just don’t have access to it. But yeah, kind of interesting to see those photography jobs listed. Now, you know, it was just as things come up, as you know, like a need arises. And photography, real estate jobs exist out there, you know, taking photographs of houses or properties have been around for a while I’ve done a bunch of them. And it’s kind of weird to kind of see that shift over to just try a photograph with left of the real estate Not, not if it’s like real estate for sale or a condo to rent. It’s just Well, you know, is there anything left to that hillside, there’s anything left in my apartment, or house or housing complex. So man, that’d be really strange, a lot, a lot, a weird, weird kind of activities to go on this year. So I’m hopeful that those are kind of more under control now. And I hope that California is also getting some relief. I think it’s been, it’s been a while now. And I don’t think they’ve got the kind of rain relief that we’ve had through the later September. And then while I guess now we’re kind of waiting through a bit of October for it, but but some of the rainfall that we’ve had this year, I think has been better here in Oregon than it has been in the parts of southern California that are probably still having a difficult time fighting off the fires and stuff. So man, it’s really dry conditions and heat. And you know, late summer heat, man, it’s rough. So not very fun. But as it goes, Yeah, I think like a lot of stuff has kind of been affected or kind of moved around because of the fires that there’s a lot of smoke that’s now kind of blown eastward. So I think parts of eastern Oregon are pretty smoky by better, but pretty smoky. If you’re kind of in line at one of the fire areas, it’s really pretty good over here, like on the west coast, western side of the Cascades. As you go in most of the way up and down the I five corridor, I think when we were doing that, we only ran into a couple patches where you go over like a mountain pass and then you’re in an area that has sort of hazy skies or a little bit of smoke and they’re really kind of near an area that has a fire going on. So it’s kind of weird how there’s a couple pockets that that still have a little bit of smoke on the west side of the Cascades, but I think a lot of that is that pushed a little bit more toward the east. And that you know, also I guess kind of bums out people on the eastern side of it too. So I was also thinking about like hunting season or about really just a lot of the outdoors people that are going out and trying to do some stuff during the fall for myself it was a lot of photo trips and a lot of like kind of September and October planned outing or you know kind of camping and traveled trips that I was going to try and go through some public lands over in the upper parts of eastern Oregon that I think are best during this time of year of September and October out there. I think it’s really cool watching the aspen trees kind of start to change their color kind of turned into their fiery yellows and oranges and reds as they start to change over under the fall and lose their leaves and get into Washington the animal like the antelope and stuff move over and in southeastern Oregon, it’s really cool. Or probably a bunch of the other stuff you get to see right now too. And yeah, it gets to be a bit more of a populated I think time of year. Probably coming up on is it October 1 it’s opening day for for deer hunting season here in Oregon. I’m not 100% sure on that, but I do think that it is coming up here right away. So I think I’m gonna try and get a little bit of a trip out before that starts. So that I can do some stuff. Probably before a big wave of people come out for a couple of weeks to do some deer hunting seven this year. It might be a little bit more busy than other years. All right, I just wonder what the pressure will be like and some of those areas. So I’m going to be kind of try or I’m going to try to be mindful of what’s going on, I think, during the next couple of weeks, but really, I’ve never had a problem, or a difficulty trying to, you know, find a spot or find a place for this thing that I’m up to, while while it’s been hunting season out there, and a lot of those places are still pretty remote. Like a lot of places I’d go to take photographs are popular, you know, they’re just not really in the same spots. Fortunately, I guess that, that you’re going to get a lot of pressure for deer hunting for the next couple weeks. So that’s kind of cool. But I do want to kind of explore around a little bit. I know some of those areas this time a year are mostly filled up with people that are that are coming through for tourism-related to like a plant hunting trip that they have. So like they’re doing like an elk hunting trip up in the central northern central Northeastern section of Oregon, or over here on Western Oregon. But like I hear like up I think it’s like fossil Mitchell. And then as you kind of move up further through the Fremont. Now it’s that Fremont up there. I don’t know what that one is. Now I forget, I don’t know what that for the National forces do. I think it’s like the strawberry mountains, the Blue Mountains, as you’re moving up toward toward like La Grande Pendleton over there. But I’ve heard like there’s some some areas over there. Well, I mean, there’s like there’s drainage is for hunting districts all across Oregon, you know, and you can put in for Daggett, I guess, and any number of those. But I know like some of the areas that southeastern Oregon. Like there’s a string of these like dispersed remote camps that are out there. And this time of year, they, they get filled up a little a little bit faster. For you know, hunting camps coming through a group of guys coming through and setting up a good rigging of stuff stay in there for about 10 days or so again, or you know, it seems like at least five days, five or six days, and then taking off. So it seems like a few of those spots get kind of held up for a little bit longer periods of time this time of year. But I remember Yeah, it’s pretty regular that I try and go out on camping trips through September and October. And definitely through like parts of October. I’ve never even like through school and stuff there would always be like about at least like a weekend, or like a long weekend trip a year that would be out to somewhere deep in Eastern Oregon to kind of check out some stuff. But yeah, really cool area out there. Especially if you get the weather on your side. I think we’re getting at like a nice snap of weather this week, if you’re able to do it. And if you’re able to kind of check your forecasts and stuff then it’s it’s a cool time to get out there. While though there’s a little bit Chris, but it’s still dry enough some ways that you can kind of enjoy yourself. And it’s really beautiful for photographs with the trees. Like I was saying, if you’re able to get to an area where you’re at an elevation that that aspen trees are growing, you can photograph the changes and the colors that they have there too. But it’s also pretty interesting area as the weather starts to shift a little bit if you’re able to stay there. For me, at least before the snow start starts to fall, which I think is gonna be a little bit late this season. I don’t think it seems to be like an early snow season over there. But I have been over there and like mid October when it snowed. But if you’re over there, and it’s just cloudy as it is or just cloudy and like kind of partly rainy, it’s a desert. So you don’t really get rained out as heavy as I seem to be it rained out over here on the west side of the Cascades. So you can kind of get out and just be dry and a little bit cold and see some interesting cloud cover kind of blow over the desert valleys out there. So it can be kind of an interesting place to check out at some times. But it can’t be pretty harsh to when the winds pick up or especially at night, as the temperature drops and the weather changes. And you’re definitely going to be dealing with freezing temperatures. If you’re going out there much past much past mid October. Seems like maybe they’re probably getting close to a frost or, or near the freeze there. I think they’re most serious out there around like 4500 feet by 45 to like 5500 feet, and some can be a mile high. Is it a mile high out and blush, I don’t know, probably about 40 to 4500 feet maybe. But there are certainly some areas like I talked about on those last trips where you’re going out there and you can you can raise an elevation a few 1000 feet and because like I thought i was relatively flat through most of this area, but now you’ve been gaining an elevation you can get up on top of rise and be at 6500 feet, you’d be like wow, wow. So I have this interesting and kind of move back and forth. A little bit on you out there. But yeah, it’s cool. I’m excited to get out and do some travel through some Eastern Oregon areas during October here. Trying to do some video stuff and some photography stuff. I think I was mentioning that before where a lot of the time I’m working on the photography stuff. We’re gonna like some film photos or something, and I’m definitely gonna be doing a lot of that this fall. I’m really trying to focus on some like goals to kind of kind of focus what I’m trying to gather while I’m out there. So like, I get Like, an amount of something of, you know, whatever, whatever goal of trying to put together, but kind of try to focus on that a little bit more instead of just kind of haphazard haphazardly going out and then seeing something interesting and maybe taking a photograph of it. So. So let’s begin to kind of interesting to do. And I’m trying to do that a little bit with the photographs for a lot of the summer, but I’m also trying to get a collection of better, longer video clips that are recorded in sort of a, you know, a professional way or, you know, I want to try and like set it up on a tripod or set it up in a way where it’s, it’s kind of an easy and steady shot for a longer period of time. And what I hope to do with that is through like a number of the trips, as I kind of move across Oregon, is to gather enough sets of clips of different like landmark locations that I’m later able to use those videos to put together different pieces and different pieces in association with the photographs. But just to kind of show visually in through video, some of the areas, too, so videos not really like what, what I really like putting together what I especially like editing on and I like kind of some of the more specific controls you have over the outcome and the way that a moment looks in the way that you use photography, instead of sort of a longer format system of video that shows you know, a lot of changes to just a single aspect to something over a period of time. So I think it’d be cool, though to, to go out and try and get a bunch of landscape video clips that are long enough to kind of use in sort of a document documentary fashioned for future projects coming up. So kind of fun. But it’s also something I haven’t really done as much before. So it kind of also reopens a lot of spots that I’ve maybe grown tired of going to in the past, you know, where I leave, I’ve gone to a spot for rock or something like that I’ve been there a number of ties really cool spot really interesting if you haven’t been there if you want to walk around or something. But if you go to take photographs of it, it’s really cool. And I could probably take a lot more photographs of the place like that, to be honest, but but as it goes, if you think just just a regular photo framed picture, getting kind of tired of that I have a few of those, and I really have a draw to go back there to photograph it. But if I’m doing like a video project, well, I haven’t done that before. So it kind of gives me a little bit of inspiration to go there. And to do that with it. Or I think like what it was a couple years ago, when we were working with a GoPro 360 camera, it was interesting, because it was like, well, all these places that I kind of for me like Crater Lake, which really I have not that much interest in. It was like oh, like I should go to Crater Lake, I should make it to that destination. Because I have this tool with me that I normally don’t have, or have this, this thing that I normally don’t do, like maybe 360 video in that case are now and in this case of, you know, just going around and trying to make like a steady set of like documentary video clips, it’s like, well, I haven’t done that before. So kind of opens up like every location in the past that I had gone to. And so you can check that off the list, I don’t need to go to that waterfall again, I’ve kind of been there and I’ve got some cool photos of it. So I’ll just go to the next place and kind of head on. And this kind of opens it up a little bit of Well, I’m familiar with these places, I can kind of go through and produce these clips out in a way that’s, you know, going to work for me or something. So it’s kind of cool, I’m going through and trying to capture some longer clips and stuff it may have video takes a lot longer to do you know, you have to like do a few things you have to really pull over and really study it and shut everything off. Wait for the sounds to be right. You know, if you’re in an area where it doesn’t doesn’t work, right. Like if you’re near a road and there’s cars or something going by, or whatever it is you just have to make these mitigations to try and make it work you’d have to like get off the road or go further away or set up a better shot or whatever it is you have to kind of like push a little harder. And then to capture it and sort of similar to like long-exposure photography, you just have to like sit there and wait for why you had to wait for the time to elapse for you to capture a minute of footage or four minutes of footage of these, you know, like cattle moving across the field or something like that. So it’s kind of fun. Yeah, the stuff that you see and the stuff that you captured. But it also takes like a lot more work to kind of put together those video pieces. But I’m looking forward to it, I want to try and put together some time-lapse work, some sky video, like some sunset stuff or some clouds kind of moving around. I think that’s going to be really interesting or especially like with some of the dynamic kind of dramatic cloud textures that you get over in Eastern Oregon during the September and October times a year. I think it’ll be kind of cool to try and photograph some of those quickly kind of moving lower cumulus clouds as they sort of kind of swirl and turn and move past on the sky. So going to try and set up some some longer maybe like an hour video or something like that and then set up a time-lapse from that to kind of speed the video up and then make it something where you can kind of see the changes but I’m trying to put together some of those visual elements pretty much as it’s like kind of a fun, activity side project thing but Jenna put some of these like visual video elements together. So I have a collection of those kinds of pieces to like, you know I can I was still photograph of a beautiful sunset, say or I got to have a maybe like an interesting time-lapse that sort of shows it, roll through the colors and roll through the cloud formations that it makes. And I’d like to kind of make a couple of those to go in tandem with some of the other pieces of work that I’ve been trying to put together. So it kind of kind of goes, carries on stuff, but it’s a similar stuff I’ve been up to, I also got some mini DV tapes back, I think I talked about a couple podcasts back, I’d send them off to be converted. And I had a pair of them, I think, two hours of footage, converted from mini DV tape to mp4. And I got a thumb drive mailed back to me, and plugged it in the computer through on the videos, I’ve been through about 1.5 gigabytes an hour for an mp4 of standard standard def 2005 video from some mini DV camera. And there’s a few good ones I got to work with. But I think a lot of the footage is kind of interesting. It’s interesting to see, I think I’d like I’d mentioned maybe I recorded over a number of the tapes that I’d use frequently. So I’d record a project or record a couple clips video, none of it very proficient. And then I capture that over to a computer and edit it. And then I blacked out the tape and then record the next project over it. So there’s only like some sections of video that probably still remain. And I bet there’s probably a lot of cool pieces that I wish I had been able to keep. I think some of the good stuff I do still have. So that’s cool. And from what I found already, it’s also pretty cool just to see what was there. But yeah, like some few like I think it was like a men’s high school basketball game. I think it was a I think there was a soccer game recorded. I think there was like a girls basketball game recorded. I think there was an assembly recorded like a bunch of like high school footage that I had recorded, or that, like other people recorded with me during probably 2005 2006. Wow. Yeah, that’s cool. Yeah, so kind of seeing some of that footage. And some of it we’d use for little projects and stuff we’re working on. But it’s cool to see the raw footage again. And that’s kind of fun about being able to pull up those tapes, take them into a place I haven’t converted, and then get get to check out the the types of footage that was on it. But yeah, you get to see some cool stuff. I think it was, like I mentioned maybe before I converted some stuff, and I think it was like some somebodies wedding that I converted, you know, I don’t have much attachment to it, but I’m sure those people do, you know, they have the video of whatever it was, but it’s cool that this raw video exists, I’ll maybe I’ll reach out to that I reached out to another friend and said, Hey, check out this, check out this video. You know, it’s like an hour of stuff back from high school that we thought was probably just gone, you know. So probably, I think for most people it is, and I think most people don’t really have like the archivist mentality or the, the the media mentality that that I always do. But it’s really fun to have a photo album or have a clip or a set of clips and videos and stuff from when you were younger. And now especially that we’re older, I think some of the some of the benefit of kind of keeping keeping hold of some of those things as they come up. It’s kind of cool, you know, you get to like, pull up this thing as Oh, wow. Yeah, that was like 15 years ago. No way. That’s what it seems like 15 years past he does he like video yourself or video someplace that you’re at. It’s cool. So I’m happy to be going through and clipping up some of those pieces of video. Pretty fun. And yeah, kinda kind of carry on as I’ve tried to get a few more of them converted. I think I have like a little box, I probably have maybe somewhere less than eight of these tapes left. And then I think I have a number of tapes that I’m going to try and collect from my, my family to I think they have a few like, you know, like, I don’t know, whatever, probably the earlier stuff of like holidays and family events and whatever that stuff was. And all the tapes that I have are just from what I started, you know, back in like the 2000, probably, for maybe the earliest. For photos of maybe like 2002 2003 those video clips go it’s probably 2004 2005 that I was really able to get access to some video stuff, at least that you know that like I was focused on I was using kind of on my own. So yeah, it’s cool to have those have those tapes around getting converted, get to check out some old footage on it’s a little bit expensive. I think it was 25 bucks for the two hours of footage that I got. So it’s fine. And it’s cool because it’s good footage or it’s cool to like have these memories and stuff. But it’s also weird too. If you spend 25 bucks and you just get a blacked out tape. You know, imagine it was the blank tape and you’re like, Oh, cool. So it’s been cool. Yeah, kind of pulling up these old pieces and seeing some stuff especially if like your old like home videos or home movies or your wedding or something like that, man, all of those things. Those are really cool memories to have and then istyles you have kind of been able to keep those as is so important. And now that it’s so easy to digitize them. We’re in a period of time right now. It’s easy to digitize them and easy to duplicate that that He’s a data out. So you can archive in different locations like a bigger thumb drive, you can put a bunch of media, or you can kind of diversify that and make four thumb drives and keep them in different places, or with different people, you can share with different people, if there’s sets of videos that you want to get out of just being siloed. With you, which is sort of where I’m at to, you know, like I recorded a lot of video, I record a lot of photos, and I don’t really have to be the the yearbook creator for everyone I’ve ever met. But I was also thinking, well, it’d be cool to have to kind of get a hold of a couple of people and say, I have this, this video, it’s just been archived in a box of mini DV tapes for the last 15 years, I got a copy of it. There’s a footage of you for some projects, here’s a set of that, or here’s some photos from something that happened back in college or whatever it is, you know, some some project or event that we worked at. So all those kind of things are cool to get a hold of, I know I have them. And I know they might have had them at a time but maybe lost interest or don’t have many more than So, yeah, it’s kind of cool to come upon that stuff, and then be able to set it out and get to look at that stuff. Again, it’s cool looking back into the past a little bit with some old video or some old photographs. So it’s been kind of fun. But yeah, we’re working on that we’re gonna have some video conversions and some photo stuff, trying to do some fun writing, I’m trying to rough draft a bunch of stuff, I use voice to text a lot, I use voice to text to like, get a bunch of paragraphs out. And then I use Grammarly. And another site called Hemingway to kind of help me do some editing of that. But then I also go back through and then I try and like write in a bunch of stuff on top of that. And that really seems to like I don’t know kind of helps with speed a lot is really the thing that makes a big difference is the speed that I’m able to put out 300 words or 200 words or something like and then kind of restructure that hold of it. So it’s a lot better than I was able to do with the bass, that’s for sure. So it’s kind of fun. Yeah, voice to text just on an iPhone, or you can do it. Even when I’m out camping and stuff. You can you can use it in airplane mode. And I think you have a database of words within the phone that you’re able to do voice to text with it’s, it’s a pretty comprehensive English library, which is cool. It’s really fantastic that you’re able to do those kinds of techniques. But But yeah, I think it was a campaign, I was able to put down a lot of work, you know, just by voice to text into my phone, like I always have it into the Notes app. And then I have have, you know, like 10 documents ready to go that have 300 word, little essays, or a little rough draft sections set up so that you can go through throw those into an editor, correct the weird mistakes or like some of them, you probably read it, but correct some weird voice to text mistakes, correct some grammar stuff, and then go back through and try and try and edit a couple ideas and make it you know, it’s weird to write, like, like, if you just listen to that last sentence, the structure things that you say, or at least the things that I say, seem to be a lot looser than the structure things that you’re right. So when you do like a voice to text thing, you tell a story, you make some comment, but you really, I think have to go back through and sort of rearrange it a little bit to make it clear writing at least ideal. I think that’s a benefit of people who write allies; they get a better pair of graphic sense of the things that that the point that they need to make and the communication that they have. So thanks a lot for putting up with me. rambling about fires and photos and cabin and mini DV tape conversions. So it’s a good time. But I appreciate you guys tuning in to this episode of The Billy Newman photo podcast. You can always do more to see some of my work by checking out Billy Newman. photo.com did I say that? I think I said yeah, yeah, go to billion photo.com. That’s, that’s I figured you guys remember. Thanks for checking out this episode of the podcast it next week.