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137 POP OS LINUX

Hello, and thank you very much for listening to this episode of The Billy Newman photo podcast. I wanted to record an episode today to talk about some of the stuff I’ve been working on, which I guess had been pretty busy and been kind of changing some stuff up and making some changes in the studios, I’m kind of often made frequent to say. Still, the stuff I was going to talk about today was a little bit about some computer stuff that I was working on. I’ve been trying to work with Linux a little bit. I’ve talked about Linux a couple of times on the podcast. Before, I think I talked about putting Linux Mint on to like a smaller mac book that I had or an older mac book that I had. And then I also talked about trying to make like bootable thumb drives that I’ve done in the past, and I’m going to have a little bit of experience with like some people interested in it have a lot more. But I’ve been looking around online and trying to find some information out about some of the different distributions out there that have been in common use frequently. But I’ve been trying to learn a little bit, and I guess learn a little bit more about terminal stuff, which I’ve also talked about on the podcast before, but I run into pop OS, which is a Linux distribution, which I guess is based on a boon to and I’ve used a boon to before the nice, easy to install, operating system. And there’s still like a lot of customization stuff is sort of around that, as well. As is a common theme with using Linux as an operating system, it seems to be, but I downloaded a distribution of pop OS and I installed it onto a thumb drive and I use this this, this cool utility that you can get on a Mac called etcher. Which makes like an ISO a bootable a bootable distribution on like, it’s like a live boot, USB thumb drive with that ISO so so that was really easy to do with that Linux distribution, I guess it works with a bunch of others too. But I was interested in using like Arch Linux a little bit, I was kind of looking around a little bit I was trying to find like, you know, I was looking at the the newer version of a boon to that’s out there. I was looking at the the newer version of Linux Mint with cinnamon, as like the desktop environment. I was looking at pop OS two Yeah. And so it’s kind of done between like Arch Linux and pop OS for a little bit. And I decided to go with pop OS, I think. And then there’s some kind of interesting things with it. And it seems to be kind of catching on a little bit too, which is, which is always kind of fun to check out. But there’s there’s some differences between distributions. I’m really no expert in it. So I’m sure other people actually understand why there are those differences much more than I do. But I downloaded the the ISO and made a bootable USB thumb drive using at your and then yeah, I use it on my MacBook Pro. Sometimes there’s there’s kind of thought that maybe like, especially with laptops, so there’s not going to be the driver support that you would need. So it’s like things like webcams or things like the hotkeys like the buttons at the top where you could turn the sound up and down or the the monitor light up and down or something like that, like none of that would really have a communication to the computer system to do anything. So in this case, all that stuff worked the trackpad work, the mouse work, or, you know, the the use of the mouse work, which is something that I heard was a complication, in this distribution, and I think in a few other Linux distributions on laptops, too, is that sometimes there’s not the driver support for the trackpad and the way that you need or, you know, for whatever reason, I don’t understand it really, really, yeah, almost everything worked. surprisingly well. Just out of the box right away, even just from the thumb drive, booting up, and just a couple of minutes. So that was pretty cool. But yeah, you get the desktop environment, you get to kind of move around. And it’s a really kind of clean interface with with just kind of a few pieces to interact with. But my understanding with the development environment was there. Or with this distribution, the idea was that it was supposed to be kind of ready for people to use to start creating things is some some seems, it seems to be some sort of hot word right now to to kind of talk about it like that, but but I think it’s really cool it it really does mimic the Mac OS environment in a lot of ways. It doesn’t have the kind of slick graphical interface in some ways. It does. Recently, I thought Linux is sort of a more flat Linux theme to it. But I think it looks really nice though. And it works works really well, it’s

I’m sure it’s kind of a stable system, it’s a it’s cool getting to, to use the terminal to trend, like apt install stuff from the area from a repository, I don’t understand what that is a code repository where I download a program stuff. So I’m still trying to learn about that and figure it out. But as far as the process goes, Yeah, I got the live USB key working. And then on my MacBook, it’s like a 2015 MacBook Pro, I was trying to figure out how to kind of make a partition on the drive, so that I could install like just a small section of the drive where I still have all of my my Mac OS data preserved, but have like a small partition of the drive section offs for for an installation of this, this pop OS distribution so I could kind of run it for a couple of months and sort of live with it make files and download applications and and see if it you know how it is to like work with our artists to use what it’s like to get on the internet and then try and, you know, an attachment or something like that. So I’m kind of interested in trying to try it out. But to do that, I was trying to get a partition going. And I was having some trouble on the MacBook Pro. And I guess in Mac OS Mojave, if, if you’ve done the upgrade from this is going to be exciting for you guys. If you intend to upgrade from the hard drive file format system of HFS to the A PFS the the new like Apple file format system, then, and then I guess and if you have time machine turned on, there’s like some complication where you can’t like reformat the size of the drive, partition and the way that you I guess, once good using Disk Utility. So there’s a couple little tricks that I learned to get around that or to to get it back to a place where you can make changes to the partition size. The things that I noticed were file vault was on. So my drive was encrypted. And it couldn’t make changes to the drive size while the drive was encrypted. So I had to turn the file vault off. And I guess have the computer go through the process of decrypting the drive. In addition to that, what else was there? It was decrypting the drive Oh, it’s time machine backups. Yeah, so I have a hard drive that does Time Machine backups. It’s like an external drive. But I think that, that, given that there was you know, I don’t know some some image of a drive that was out there or something I had to like I had to turn off time machine, I guess is what it was. That’s what it kind of boils down to. And then all of a sudden, I was able to resize that apfs Drive container size and then put in a new partition, which I made up and I think I set it to like 20 gigabytes or 20 gigabytes at over aside on my hard drive for Linux to be installed. So I put the thumb drive in to the live boot of this pop OS distribution. And then then from within there, you can go and install it onto the computer. And so I started on to, to that partition to the hard drive that I had set up. And now I have the working version of Linux pop OS running on a 2015 MacBook Pro with almost really almost no problems at all there’s there’s some some kind of glitchy, like the mouse tracks too fast across the screen in some applications, or in some uses. It’s just strange things like that, but, and a few other things too. But it really that the thing that you notice a bit is that there’s really not a lot you can do with just the operating system really have to kind of involve other applications. And you have to add

your file system that you know, have hard drives and hard drives have photos and files and all those documents and stuff. So kind of incorporating those into your use through your operating system is sort of how you can tell if it’s working for you or not, but just an empty operating system, it’s kind of hard to tell like Well, I guess there’s like there’s no files, and you can click here, you can click there. So it’s just kind of hard to like track stuff or see if, if that really makes no sense to us. But it doesn’t feel like you’re learning how to use it if it’s just a completely empty operating system. And I guess that’s kind of where I bet a lot of times in the past where I don’t really live in Linux for long enough to create an app files are need to move around in a files back and forth from a hard drive to my computer to work on in the back to the hard drive. I work on a project or something. I haven’t done that enough in Linux to really like build up anything there. So more to build up really much experience kind of trying to move, move things around or you know build content or, or get online and get back and forth but apapa seems to make it pretty easy and it seems to really be pushing this idea that Linux is fine to use where It kind of has an app store that sort of represented at the front of the front of the system in whatever way that would be. But there’s kind of a page that just sort of lists a lot of the applications that you can install. A lot of them, I think, I think they’re all free, that are listed there, at least a lot of them are the open-source applications that are out there that are available for Linux. But there’s also a lot of them that are that are like, private license, pieces of software, freeware that are other, too. So there’s some cool stuff that’s available, like you can get slag or you can get was like chromium, as you can run Chrome on there. I think it comes with Firefox, there’s probably some other pieces that are out there, too. It’s like Libra office is installed. I think there’s some other utilities that are out there, too. But there but yeah, I noticed there’s some limitations, too. There’s, you know, there’s no access to the Adobe suite of software, which I noticed, I guess I depend on more than I thought I would, I thought there was like other options out there for me. And a lot of cases, maybe there are under some circumstances, but I tried to kind of switch over and find I downloaded rawtherapee. That’s this. That’s an application that’s available for Linux, and Macintosh, and windows that allows you to edit your photographs, your raw photographs, and it’s supposed to be sort of that, at that workstation of the photography, cataloging workstation, and sort of what Lightroom is,

it’s free open-source software, it’s pretty interesting to download. It’s not too big of a program. But it’s definitely cool to check out, it’s just definitely a lot different than some of the use that you would get in Lightroom in some cases, so there’s this kind of the file management system. And there’s sort of some metadata editing modules in there. And then there’s some, like color correction editing stuff in there, too. But there’s a lot of fine detail and complicated things to get into there where you have like, like, three levers to change for each channel, of color contrast. So it’s just like an absurd amount of things to control to get the algorithm to kind of do the adjustment to the photo, the way that you would want it to do it. Really technical, really cool. Probably, if you had the training to kind of get in there and do that in some way. I’d like to try and check out some more videos on it, but it just in a lot of way in the Linux way, the classic Linux way, it’s incredibly difficult to to use, like, you know, in order to just jump in, and you’re gonna have this program, I’m going to bring my photos in, and now they’re going to be processed, it’s a lot harder to that. So it’s interesting, but definitely a steep learning curve. So I want to try and dig into it a little bit more. In addition to that, another story similar is I tried to install door door. I don’t know what it is; it’s a bit. It’s an audio editing. It’s an audio multi tracking workstation for Linux, or as an open-source piece of software that’s available I think for for Mac and Windows two, you can download it probably from some some repository online. But it’s an audio editing workstation, which like right now I use audition to do a lot of audio editing stuff that I’m interested in. There’s what would there be like GarageBand or something, you know, is another one logic is like the one that they were just showing off at WWDC with the new Mac Pro and the 1000 channels and stuff running on it. The audacity is the one that’s kind of most known in the free were open-source, audio software community. But this this other one seemed like it was kind of interesting audacity, I should say, is really about kind of, I think single track clipping and, and mastering. which is which is a specific utility. That’s, that’s super useful. I think it’s a really good tool for that. But I don’t know if it really does, like multi multitrack mixing as much. I could be wrong about that. I’m not really sure. But I was trying this program out. And it’s like kind of it’s difficult to use, I guess that’s sort of the answer is like there’s just like little driver component things that don’t really come together. It’s looking for like outboard hardware components that I don’t have. But I’m really just trying to open the mp3 in it to see if it’ll play, but it does really get that far until you configure it, but you can’t really configure it. So it’s kind of a, like a classic Linux problem. So pretty exciting stuff. difficulties with config Using open-source software to run on a Mac Book. So I’m sure there’s a lot of, there’s a lot of troubleshooting stuff. And there’s a lot of tinkering stuff to get it ready to ready and going. And this is I think, why a lot of people don’t don’t move over to Linux super quickly. A lot of it the software stuff that was working really well. And it’s pretty interesting to use like a really like using the the terminal to do like an apt command. It’s like apt install, and then you just like put the name of the piece of software in there that’s available, you can do like apt search, and then they find the piece of software name. People like the command line name in there. And then it was download the repository. It’s really cool. Just you just see a guy like Chuck trick trick trick trick. And you see the kind of the command line working it out. And then you have that application installed. On your operating system. It’s really cool. It pulls it from the internet, it does it or is it like a package manager? It’s got I think what I understand what you find is baggage, pulls that package down and installs it. There you go, you got an install piece of software. So it’s definitely a cool thing. It’s too bad that I guess windows never had the the advantages of Unix. And then Mac, I guess seems to take advantage of it. But things like that are kind of kind of geeky. So I understand why that’s probably not a common feature. But I think on a Mac, that’s why you use homebrew,

which is that package manager add on program that you can download for your Mac OS terminal. And that’s what I use a lot to download a lot of cool pieces of software for terminal. But what’s cool about Linux is you can download it, you can download packages that are that are graphical user interface applications, just you know, just regular applications, you can download the chromium browser, some so you can do that, just from Terminal, you can just run the commands from terminal to make those downloads. So what’s kind of cool, interesting, and kind of fun to get into Linux and start figuring out some stuff around them. But yeah, I’m gonna try and try and run Linux as sort of my primary operating system for a couple of weeks and see if I can sort of do at least the file management stuff and maybe some of the web browsing web uploading stuff from the Linux side of things for a little bit. So just as a little experiment to see how that’s, that’s gone. But let’s go for it. So, anyway, thanks a lot for listening to this episode of the building even photo podcast. I appreciate you guys tuning in and checking out

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