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Billy Newman Photo Podcast | 181 Clubhouse Audio App
Hello, and thank you very much for listening to this episode of the Billy Newman photo podcast. Thanks for checking it out. I wanted to talk with you guys about the app clubhouses audio conference call app, new, I guess, type of social networking that’s all surrounded or all applied to live audio calls, I think with like a group or an audience of people where there’s like kind of chair, or you know, like a board of moderators of speakers. And then an audience of people who can listen in, and then, like, ask questions and talk about the topic with other people club, as I think it is still an invite-only application that you can get on iOS only. I don’t know if there’s an Android option for it yet. But the invite-only system, I think, is that where you get like, two invites per person, and then it kind of stacks up from there, I guess, depending on your usage of the app, or I think, depending on how many slots they have available to expand the service to I also understand that the application is, is I believe, organized around an American founder. But I think that the technology and algorithm is a back-end system made by China. And I think it’s also sort of like Tick Tock is also like a Chinese company.
But I think it’s also one of these systems, and it’s like gathering a bunch of sorts of social graph information like I believe it asks for your, your contact information as you’re setting up the application. And if it does that with, say, most of the people in your contact address book, it’ll sort of be able to reverse engineer the social connections that most people have with each other over most of the United States, which is interesting. And it’s some of that metadata stuff that’s used to, I guess, sort of, I don’t know, I don’t know what they’ll use it for, but it’s one of those things used for cataloging data. But yeah, I set up, set up a clubhouse account. And I was trying to learn about it a bit. I was trying to figure out some stuff that it could be used for, for photographers or photographers, talking to each other. And I guess it proves that I’ve already known for a while that photographers are challenging people to listen to. So thanks for listening to this. But there’s a gap.
That seems like I don’t know what soft skill it is, but there are challenging people to hear. Talk, man, yeah, some stuff on the clubhouse, including a bunch of the other rooms that I’ve checked out, get kind of esoteric or obscure, or worse, they’re very generic. One of the problems that I’ve seen with some clubhouse stuff is that it’s just like, it’s great. And it’s fantastic. And it’s cool to talk, and having a positive attitude is incredible. It’s good to document, you know. It doesn’t circle out from anything past that, even if there is a more specific topic to get to on the call. But it’s been interesting to be tuned into really just kind of like listening in to a couple of things more than I’ve started my clubhouse rooms to talk and or something. But I’ve been dropping into a couple of things to learn about some topics and stuff in that, and some stuff is good; it’s kind of interesting to hear about some, some of the experience that other photographers are having. And you can do that through listening to podcasts and stuff. But
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it’s an excellent way to do some networking stuff. And in a pretty quick way, you know, you can get into a room and see sort of stuff there. A lot of people have their social profiles like Instagram or Twitter hooked up to it. So you can kind of go over and check out these different photographers that are talking about, say, like getting back into the wedding photography market after COVID-19, I think was, you know, some of the stuff I heard about other ones were talking about how to set up their, their galleries for NFTs or setting up stock photos or, you know, figuring out all sorts of this stuff. I’ll try and get that into that stuff a bit too. But, but it was somewhat interesting to hear and, like talking about getting back into the wedding industry stuff. And then there are a few photographers there that are in the wedding industry; they’re talking about how much money they’re trying to apply to marketing or like, what they’re trying to look at, for sort of certain tiers of reopening that are occurring in different states and how that will affect how they’re going to be able to approach their clients and, and get gigs. I mean, it’s difficult right now it’s like, you know, is it limited weddings socially distance are they’re only going to be like, you know, kind of minor elopement style event then that’s kind of a different scale of a thing than it would be if it’s a more full-scale open wedding and sort of timing that is as something some come back online is going to be a bit tricky.
Still, it’s interesting to get the temperature, you know, the type of check the temperature of the market And seeing what some of the other people that would be maybe peers in that industry that you might be into to hear him talk about that and see what their opinions or positions are. Sometimes it can be valuable, but it also seems like maybe an inefficient way to get some higher quality information, as it seemed like when I was doing it, I had to kind of invest a good bit of time to hear about or gets any valuable pieces of information about it. But some of the rooms I was checking out were related to, like cryptography a lot. This used to be like a big theme on these clubhouse resumes. And also like a bunch of political or social justice kind of environments, or debates and stuff of different Talking Heads kind of going back and forth about sort of their, their ideas. But as it goes through the stuff that I was trying to check, I was for photography marketplaces or cryptography stuff, like last week, I was talking about the NFT craze that was going on these non-fungible tokens. And some of the stuff that I was learning about that was directly from these clubhouse rooms. A significant subcategory on the clubhouse is cryptography and how people are using Ethereum or making a theory. We’re just excited that their assets are going up in value, a lot of Bitcoin talk.
A lot of NF t talk a lot of marketing events, NFTs, that sort of thing I’ve seen a lot to where we’re artists that are more plugged into a manager and a, you know, some facilitation to create a market for selling their fine art products that are already kind of involved in like, say the New York collectible art scene, are trying to issue these digital pieces of artwork through like an NFT marketplace. And the way that they’re marketing that to a broader audience is by laying out some things on different social media platforms. And one of those is by doing this sort of larger-scale clubhouse meetups, where they’re marketing to those talking about the NFT and the crypto stuff. And I think they’re trying to produce sales or produce leads for the art pieces they want to have purchased; I think I have listened to one female talking about a digital NFT artwork piece that she sold.
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I think she lives in the New York area. And I think she’s like I was saying plugged in, she has an agent and a manager for like a fine art marketplace. So she’s already connected with those people that are sort of, I think, setting up a marketing plan before the release of some artwork piece that can be more successful and have kind of that story or presence behind it that makes it more valuable. I understand how art pieces escalating and value like that and collectability. But, but it’s kind of interesting. You’re in some of the stuff you’re talking about. But also, I see through it a bit that yeah, it’s sort of like just sort of a representation of doing some marketing stuff. I see that on other platforms too. Like, I think telegram has a bunch of rooms that people try to kind of post their NFT listings and stuff so that you can see those. So it’s not the only location.
I’ve also seen it on Twitter, under many hashtags, and on Instagram to people talking about their new NFT art listings and stuff that is going on. But the club has been attractive, and I’ve been trying to keep up with it. I’ve seen a few celebrities pop into it. I think I saw David Spade in the room; I see many comics kind of pop up and check some stuff out. But sort of infrequently, though, I think it might be a passing use for them to sort of do a couple of hits too, you know, fill up a room, make it pop, I think like Ilan showed up and talk to somebody for a few. But, still, I think it might be short-lived and might go back to smaller rooms of people talking about more basic subjects or more kind of specific niche subjects to their interest or group or something.
But it’s been interesting kind of, I guess popping in, see people talk about NF? T, crypto art or you know, like the Bitcoin explosion, how to do investing and stuff, you get like a couple of exciting Bitcoin investors that are sort of in the technology space in the startup space. They’ve been into crypto early on, and they’re kind of, you know, also into the new social apps market stuff. So they’re on the clubhouse, and they’re, you know, going on about how right they were the crypto is going to pop in price. That’s cool. But I began to try to go through some of that stuff. I also noticed that, Yeah, like there’s, I don’t know some like kind of low-quality speakers. There’s just kind of what I was mentioned a bit ago where it’s cool if the room has a couple, say like authorities in that topic, but sometimes it can be a collection of just sort of this lay theory environment. Where nobody has a strong opinion on it, that’s a tricky thing.
Also, like talk radio to you, when there’s like a dynamic between two people talking, it isn’t accessible if both agree or generally have an over the overlapping sentiment to whatever they’re talking about. And low details or facts, or, you know, like, here are four bullet points you need to know in the following, however many seconds, some of which can be didactic and informational. But then as it goes, it is like building a conversation, challenging to have, say, like, like low information. You do not like there’s not a lot of details or facts for a person to kind of grab and then and then go on or explain. And then if the other party’s in the chair, they don’t have anything to add to it, or any counterpoint to go into it, it just sorts of turns into sort of agreement. Marathon where people say, Oh, yeah, I agree. That sounds nice.
And it seems like that can be sort of difficult to listen to the conversation, that’s kind of where you benefit from maybe listening into a podcast or something where, like, it’s kind of like a one on one, or there’s, you know, like just a couple of people on a panel that is intentionally trying to get to the next piece and try to keep it moving onward in the conversation. And that sort of leads to, I think, more information or just like natural disagreements where people can conversate and then get to a more specific piece of information after that. So, yeah, like a lot of the NFT stuff, maybe I’ve got a temperature check of how the people are interacting with NF T’s or crypto or, you know, building you see, you know, photo galleries online or whatever groups I was in. But, but, like, a lot of the best information I get is still from podcasts or YouTube videos, where someone is sort of visually or auditorially, going through a set of data, or in conversation with another person where you can get some more of the
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the higher-end experience of detail how to do some stuff. I also noticed some things in that, I guess, Twitter and Instagram, and I think Facebook at large, intend to add this type of social capability that clubhouse offers into their platform. So I guess even Instagram, just recently, maybe Twitter too, has this kind of group conference call. Like, and I think with video now, too, but I feel like on Instagram, one of the ideas was that Yeah, you could just kind of duplicate the same features as a clubhouse. And then and then, in effect, taking away, maybe what advantage clubhouse has in the marketplace and out-compete them by offering that similar product in the mass app of Instagram, or a Facebook as a whole. So it’s interesting.
I guess we’ll see how popular that is; it’s an exciting way to do some communication stuff on Instagram. I could see it being pretty cool, pretty easy to layout, and they did the same sort of thing with Snapchat. And they did the same kind of thing with like, tick-tock making reels. So they’re kind of in the process of trying to take this other social network key app feature and then build it into their system. And they’re able to do that in software, really, in just a few weeks when something kind of pops and becomes popular, like maybe clubhouse has. So instead of just audio or visual conference call sharing stuff, you can do that socially and in a group.
And it seems like they can lay that stuff out pretty quickly. And, and get kind of get. I mean, Facebook has more infrastructure than probably just about any other company on Earth, you know, there’s maybe Google or something, IBM, something like that. But Amazon. But it’s interesting, seeing how they’re laying that stuff out pretty quickly. So I think that clubhouse, in general, will pop for a bit; it’ll probably have some niche use and a community. And that’s fine and interesting, but I don’t know if it’s going to take on like mass adoption; I think many people are going to use it for a bit, it’s going to be like a fabulous bubble for a little while.
And then as soon as things kind of change over, or there’s a new, probably like, as soon as like the pandemic ends, people are more outside and stuff I think like things like these are like, at least like this kind of, like time intensive live conference call app isn’t going to be as popular of an item as it is, sort of through February March of this year. I think even still now, and it’s almost showing that it’s maybe phasing out a bit. I think I’ve seen that happened a couple of different times. It’ll continue; they’ll be like a long tail of its use for at least like a couple of years. It’ll probably seem different, you know, in time, but I remember like with mastodon that came out and like, right when it came out, there was a bunch of different instances that came up, it looked like it was going to be more, I don’t know, diverse and open platform for Twitter stuff, and it worked that way for about three weeks. It’s all twisted and took a weird turn.
And I think sort of became like a more, I don’t know kind of an alternative place to be like the seeing that some of that stuff with the clubhouse to where it either gets a lot of attention at first for sort of a broad audience, they use it for a few weeks, and then that kind of dies off. And then it’s a sort of a kind of low level and tepid use of alternative users. And that isn’t like the mainstream or exponential growth pattern that was interesting attracted to it in the first place. So then it’s just sort of like a niche product where you might have a community of people to talk to you, but it’s niche. And it’s not going to be that mainstream adoption, where you’re going to get that kind of level of exponential growth where you can grow an audience or push a product or, or sell or move some information or something like that. So it’s kind of interesting. Oh, I’m interested to see where it goes. I’ve already deleted the app from my phone. So it’s not really like a promising perspective of how much more I’m going to use it.
I thought I’d try and report on it a bit if anybody wants an invitation. I have seven invites to the clubhouse that I’m probably not having any use for, so no, tweet me your Instagram. You said that if you want to sweet clubhouse invite. Pretty cool. Yeah, I think that’s probably most of the stuff I had to talk about. In this episode, the Billy Newman photo podcasts talk about some club stuff and listen in on audio conference chats. Thanks for listening in on this audio conference chat. And check out Billy Newman’s photo comm for more information. I got some more photos and stuff going up there. I’ve got some pictures and stuff going up on Instagram, but you can check that out too.