184 Using Smugmug And Flickr – Scheduling Content
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Hello, and thank you very much for listening to this episode of The Billy Newman photo podcast. I wanted to talk a little bit about the smugmug purchase of flicker had you guys heard about this, it was sort of an interesting piece of photo news that I wasn’t really sure if I had gotten to yet in any other piece of previously recorded media. But what I thought was interesting about it was that smugmug, a smaller company, kind of in the Bay Area, I think north of the Bay Area, if I understood right where it was, you know, a smaller team they’ve been around for, say, what, 11 years or so I guess I’d used them maybe seven or eight years ago. And it was interesting to hear that, that they had gone ahead and purchased what had been for the last decade, the ownership of a larger company, you know, the system of flicker, the social media network, and kind of media sharing site for photos of flicker that was owned by Yahoo. And it was interesting now that Yahoo is going to be sold off to parts of Verizon, I think, then I guess that this piece of flicker was up for sale. And so it was purchased by the much smaller photo showing company smugmug. And I’ve used smugmug. Before for some, some like personal elements. When I was trying to learn how to how to do like online selling of photos where you know, I’d have to, I’d like, I’d take photographs at upload into smugmug. And then people could find that photograph and then make a selection to purchase that in some some size works really well for like wedding photographers that don’t want to worry about print packages or the other problems like that. But it is a premium service that costs a good bit of money. That won’t be the case with Flickr. However, Flickr as I understand is going to remain a photo sharing site and a photo kind of social network where you get to comment and like and share and, and you know, share your own photographs and your own content. So I think that’s what’s gonna be really cool about it. And it’s good to hear that you know, there’s at least still a strong competitor brand. What now remains is just Instagram for a lot of the social networking around photographs. But an interesting piece, it’s cool to see that smugmug is going to be taken care of Flickr. You can see more of my work at Billy Newman photo comm you can check out some of my photo books on Amazon, I think you can look at that Bitly Newman under the author’s section there and see some of the photo books on film on the desert, on surrealism, camping, and cool stuff over there. Really, I’m trying to figure out some time to get on the eastern Oregon and make it to a few of the more distant spots that I haven’t been to in a while. And it’s a tricky time of year because it’s like, I don’t know what it is. So what am I saying? When it’s real cold in the winter, some of the pastureland stuff isn’t really out but it’s real cold so like the ticks aren’t out as much the mosquitoes high desert mosquitoes Yikes. They’re not out as much some of those things go a little easier when it’s colder early in the year and then later when it’s more towards summer it’s a little bit easier with the environment that you’re dealing with it’s not as harsh or extreme or cold you know you’re not freezing all the time. But there’s like a few other harsh conditions of heat that you have to deal with so there’s kind of like a few different pockets that you can hit and right now it’s difficult to because you know it’s like it’s it’s it’s the more wet season over there you know it’s not raining now the snows probably melted off but Moodle yeah there’s like a bit of rain that’s still falling this time of year. Some of the areas out there they dry up real fast in the summer so you’d normally find the beaches trial and out there this time of year with a flat like low lying area it’ll kind of turn to this this Marsh or like sometimes a lot of these areas it almost looks like a lake or something you know it’s like a one foot it’s like one foot deep or you know one or two or three inches deep for most of it maybe maxes out at six inches deep at the center and or just these areas that turn real marshy and then after a week or so you know that water sinks to the ground and just grass rises up from that but the same year it can be real real tricky out there and some spots down and then you have the ticks get really bad. And it seems like April and May be part of may two not a big fan of those. or other weird little stuff out there guys remember find like a scorpion out there in Eastern Oregon. Like a real like a tiny one. I was probably like three inches, three inches or so Saturday night with a flashlight as a guy that’s out here and another scorpions. I don’t need to see any of that stuff. But yeah, we’re trying to find some time to go out to Eastern Oregon, but the Whether it’s tough is kind of turned a little bit so that might be a week or two. Before I do that
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you can check out more information at Billy Newman photo comm you can go to Billy Newman photo.com Ford slash support. If you want to help me out and participate in the value for value model that we’re running this podcast with. If you receive some value out of some of the stuff that I was talking about, you’re welcome to help me out and send some value my way through the portal at Billy Newman photo comm forward slash support, you can also find more information there about Patreon and the way that I use it if you’re interested or feel more comfortable using Patreon that’s patreon.com forward slash Billy Newman photo. Yeah, this summer, I’ve been trying to do a lot to work to get together some new photos, some new stuff to try and kind of build a base, and then move from there a little bit. But I’m really excited to try and put up a bunch of the older portfolio photographs that I have. And I was really happy to work on the website a lot this summer, I kind of redesign a bit of that, you check that out tell you anything about it’s a billynnewman photo.com. And I try to strip out a lot of the unnecessary parts, and I’m trying to kind of hone it down a little bit. So it’s a little cleaner, but it’s gone. Well, I’ve tried to set it up a little bit more. So it’s stream based, if that makes sense. You know, we’ve kind of moved toward like the Facebook stream, the Twitter stream, the Instagram stream. So I’m trying to kind of move it to where, like I talked about on the podcast before where a lot of the media stuff that I put together, the video clips, the photographs and stuff that wherever they do end up going whatever sites I am populating, like flicker and Instagram and Facebook and all the rest of it. That’s kind of what’s shown on the website, or you know how the websites kind of try and automatically pull that stuff and ingest that into the website. So I don’t have to do it as much. And that’s kind of been fun. Actually, it’s kind of been cool doing that. But the thing that I need to do, the part that still left is I need to go through my photo portfolio, kind of the long term portfolio of images I haven’t I’m trying to go through and select what would be good to show the work that I’ve done so far. And I’m trying to do that in a way that’s more developed than I had before I’ve gone through and I’ve selected, I’ve kind of picked the photos that I like a lot. But I’ve tried to do a couple different things. And hey, another truck. Man, that looks like a few tons of gravel in the back. So what I want to do, though, with the photo stuff, and what I’ve kind of been trying to work out a little bit is to go through Instagram or to go through Facebook and to try and select my favorite photographs, but then also just select the ones that have been sort of chosen by the market. So you know, that idea that I’m trying to go for what what do people actually like of the pictures that I take? What are the ones that people seem to connect with the most. So on one level, I’m trying to find all those photos. And then I’m trying to sort of remake those photos or re edit them or you know, kind of re republish them in a way that looks sort of new. And that’s cleaned up a little bit in the way that I can I can edit and create stuff now. So part of the stuff is that and then the other part is to sort of learn what people like of the photos I’m making that I want to go out and try and make more of that. Or try and dig in a little deeper on on the part that seems to get the most traction or that seems to be seen as the most valuable. So what are those, like what I’ve noticed?
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Well, yeah, what I’ve noticed anecdotally so far is that the low light stuff, or the Astro photography, the night photography, the landscapes, where there’s stars matched in the background seem to really perform really well. And I really love trying to take those photos and I know a lot about how to lay out the stars that I would want in that foot or you know, I know where the stars are, I know how to cut a line some of the landscape stuff out that I know how to expose for us. So that’s a part that I’d really like to get into and push for more of what seems to be a draw the photos that I take. But on the other side of that too, I really want to do more, more fine art photography, that’s what I really liked, and was kind of drawn into when I first started taking photos, even way back on film, before I knew how at all but I really liked the fine art side of it, where you could go through and try and put the nicest elements together or, you know, try and put a landscape together. But I liked that side of it a lot more than the product or production side of it. In in a sense at least. And I’ve always been really interested in the fine art photographers that are out there, or the fine art landscape photographers where you see some of the advanced kind of work that they put together some of the ways that they’re able to put real pieces real elements into a photograph, it’s always seemed so cool, when you’re really able to be in tune with that sort of stuff. And I just always loved the old landscapes and you know, old Fine Art images from the past. So that’s the stuff that I’m trying to get into. But organizing this stuff has been interesting. So I’m trying Use this program called Scrivener. And maybe I talked about it before or maybe a while back, I talked about it. But Scrivener is kind of interesting. It’s this. And I talked about it yesterday, no, but it’s this writing application that I’m trying to get into. And it seems like it would take a few tutorials to really figure out it’s a little bit more in depth, hey, gravel truck, it’s a little bit, it’s quite a bit more in depth than something like Word. Even though Microsoft Word is sort of an industry standard that everyone has sort of learned on for the last 1520 years, it really is a little bit more specific to like an essay for at least the way I’ve learned it. But it’s more specific to the essay format of word processing, where you’re trying to get a page accomplished, and you’re trying to edit through that or you’re trying to edit through kind of a single document. And Scrivener is sort of laid out in a way where there’s a few more pieces on the side of it, where it’s really supposed to be a research applicant, or you’re supposed to kind of compile
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data, different documents of text research or photo research and kind of put that together. And then you’re able to sort of assemble a larger writing project from there, which I think is kind of interesting. Like I figure like book authors would use a writing program like this to work on their character outlines. And their story outlines their plot summaries, and then they would work that into the manuscript that they would make into their book later. So I just think it’s kind of an interesting way that they seem to be going, or that the program is built to sort of go about it. So I’m trying to get into that and do it well, but one of the aspects I’m trying to do is to put in all the portfolio photographs that I have, into this Word document, and then sort of sort those photographs, and write about those photographs a little bit to see which photographs really seem to connect with me, or connect and connect with an audience the most and then also have photographs sort of have a story associated with them, I love that. Like, if you would follow me for this for a second, you would kind of see that there’s a difference between the photographs that are going to be the most monetizable, the ones that you can make money from like, let’s say portraits, let’s say business portraits for some company, you could get, you could get some money for that. But you wouldn’t really want to post that in your portfolio of work necessarily, you’d want to like, at least in my case, what I’d like to do is show some photos from the imnaha River Canyon, like where we were last week on our photo trip. So you kind of want to move into that stuff. But you don’t, it’s not gonna be the same sort of thing, like those landscape, fine art photos, or just, you know, the landscape, travel, adventure, tourism sort of stuff, that’s all gonna be on one side of it. And then the other is going to be, you know, senior portraits, business portraits, event photography, wedding photography, that sort of stuff. So there’s sort of two sides of, of a portfolio. One of them’s a photo product that’s valuable for money. And the other one’s a, an art piece that’s valuable because of its aesthetic. And those are sort of different things that you’ve kind of, as a photographer, you’re trying to build both of those up at the same time, it’s sort of like two different routes that you have to work on at the same time until they sort of merge together and unify. So just got him an interesting part of it. And that seems to be part of the process that I’m in right now is trying to figure that stuff out. So some weeks, it’s, I’m working really hard on the aesthetic side of the photography. And then some weeks I’m working really hard on the monetizable compensation based side of the products that I want to try and build as a photographer that’s in business, right. And there are those are interesting challenges. But I guess it’s been doing it for a couple of years. And it’s kind of fun, at least to get to still be doing it. So a couple things that I’m trying to do is I’m trying to go through and build a new Lightroom catalog of all the photos that I’ve taken this year and all the photos from the last couple years so I can organize those and do a little bit of what I’m talking about. So I have this kind of tighter collection to maybe the top 100 Top 200 Top 50 some number in there of of well laid out photo essays and stories with an image you know, that’s kind of what I’m trying to get to especially for like the the social media content side of it, I want to try and have that ready to go with a higher frequency almost all the time. So I’m trying to get everything kind of pre produced right, does that make sense? One all the portfolio photos pre selected and then ready for me to go if I want to if I want to post those, I get those out on any given day. So it’s interesting, it’s kind of a cool project. I worked on it a little bit. I’ll work on it a little bit here and there when I can but that’s another part that’s kind of tough. I mean, gosh, I haven’t even finished my website yet. Which I guess the last part is still just this I need to it’s kind of what it’s been waiting for is I need to finish the selection of the portfolio and then I can build the portfolio gallery and put that up on the website. But so far, it’s been working great just to send the y’all over to Instagram. I think that’s where most of the stuff goes. That’s where all the current content goes. Anyway Thanks a lot for checking out this episode of The Billy Newman photo podcast. Hope you guys check out some stuff on Billy Newman photo.com a few new things up there some stuff on the homepage some good links to other other outbound sources. some links to books and links to some podcasts. Like this blog posts are pretty cool. Yeah, check it out at Billy new Ninja photo.com. Thanks a lot for listening to this episode and the back end
184 Using Smugmug And Flickr – Scheduling Content