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Hello, and thank you very much for listening to this episode of The Billy Newman photo podcast. Today, I wanted to talk to you about trying to find a location for a photo shoot. Now recently, I’ve been trying to go out into some of the lake areas around the Cascades, as you’re going to get into the upper cascades to try and find a location do a photoshoot with a vehicle kind of a larger vehicle inside of China to sort that out. It’s kind of an interesting project. It’s cool. And it’s it’s tough though, because you think, wow, that, you know, it’s a beautiful area there, you know, lots of roads and stuff is really nice. So of course, it’ll be easier to just go out there and take a photo. But it’s interesting, a little more complicated than that, in some sense, because you have to kind of lay out a way to get there. And really, in a lot of circumstances, when you’re taking photos as a tourist or photos as a traveler and explore using elements to just sort of occur happens to actually in the scene, you’re waiting for a moment of serendipity to happen where you know, some some kind of element of light of natural light, and then of you know, character or presence of a person and the frame and then some kind of element of color, or whatever it is that you’re trying to lay out in the in the photograph, you apply that vision that you have of it with your camera to the scene, and then you’re able to make a photograph out of it. That’s really cool stuff. But when you’re trying to set up a pre planned photoshoot with a list of objectives, it’s kind of complicated to just do that happen. stanfill Lee, you know, kind of walk around, roam about some road and try and get photographs or something fantastic. It’s a little bit I guess I found more complicated than that. Yeah, you’re like dub le Of course. So with that, I’ve been trying to go out in advance of a photoshoot coming up to try and plan some of the locations that I can get to to try and get the photographs that I’m looking for, you know, essentially just like location scouting, I suppose. But I know where the location is, but just none of them quite work, right? It’s like, you know, an area it’s a tight road. It’s like, do you just want to get off a road? Was it or how do you set it up? How do you figure what is it that you what is an element that you’ve fake? In a sense, that makes it actually more real? It sounds weird to say it that way. But like, how is it you know, if you’ve just kind of pull into a campsite, well, maybe that’s a little too compact to really shoot the scene of camping. So maybe if you went out to a wider area that wasn’t really specifically listed is that you would have a more interesting frame of reference visually to compile those elements. So I guess there’s a few things like that, that that you’re trying to throw in there. So recently, I was trying to go out to try and find a location to get something for. For a photoshoot. It was kind of interesting. It’s fun trying to figure out, but it just kind of brings up that element of like, how do you do that? How do you do production? server? How do you do like pre production of a scene that you’re going to try and get a photograph of I don’t know if anybody else out there has any experience but if you do shoot me a message I’m on Instagram at doing human and on the Internet at Billy Newman photo calm.
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You can see more of my work at Billy Newman photo comm you can check out some of my photo books on Amazon. I think if you look up, Billy Newman under the authors section there and see some of the photo books on film on the desert, on surrealism, camping, cool stuff over there. This last week, I made a trip out to Central Oregon, and it was still really nice. You know, we had a little bit of rain, I think out there last Thursday, Friday, and then Saturday, Sunday, we just it just brightened up a ton. It was super crisp, super bright, really cold though. I think my friend David just got out to Eastern Oregon, I think got towards Smith rock and he said it was super cold out there too. But yeah, this trip, we did like an overnight trip out there. And I think today I just posted a photograph of something I thought was really cool. It’s one of the archaeological remains that are out in Eastern Oregon. And there’s a whole interesting history about stuff in Eastern Oregon. But the photo that I posted to Instagram and Facebook and all the other places today is a photograph of this rock teepee ring. That’s still in very good condition. It’s out in Eastern Oregon in this area in between. I sort of knew like where a dry lake bed where once just a lake would have been now what we see in our modern time is just a dry lake bed. But the cool thing is is as we kind of look around you can see the remnants of an old indian camp that was really quite established in that area. I think it’s it’s just amazing to get to go see you’ll find other artifacts from Indian populations out in Eastern Oregon. Once you start looking around like you’ll start noticing obsidian ships that are on the ground or you’ll start noticing really unlike some places you through a lot of Oregon through a lot of the the less developed less forested areas of Eastern Oregon there’s there’s a lot less erosion that’s taken place natural erosion is taken. place over the last few 100 years like over here on the west side of the coast with all the deciduous plant matter that comes up. There’s a lot of turnover that seems to happen like a lot of the vegetation is going to end up hiding or over growing some of the older encampments or establishments that were made. I mean, right now I’m in the Kansas Valley. I’m in the Willamette Valley where the calapooia Indians were, I’m sure out here in front of me in this big field out toward the Willamette River. There’s tons of Indian artifacts, tons of old indian casts, but none of that’s really visible because of all the deciduous organic material that’s been developed over here. over the many hundreds of years since it’s been that there was an Indian population in the area. Now what’s interesting about Eastern Oregon is that because it’s way more remote, there’s very few people out there there’s very few people to disturb a lot of things and really, sagebrush doesn’t grow very fast. Things don’t really move around very fast out there I was there I think maybe more than a decade ago and it was really almost the same as it is now very little has changed out there. You know, there’s no new house, there’s no new development, maybe maybe a fence around the thing. That might be it. But it was really cool. So you get out to this area, you hike out to a spot then you can really see all over the ground. It’s just a ton of black obsidian shocks, these unworked pieces of black obsidian that were carried in by people and then dropped there at some point. And all these pieces were used, I think in the in the in the camp to chip out arrowheads and a chip out of the tools that they would use but it’s really cool. This TP ring is really the only one there’s a few teepee rings like a few smattering of like, piles of rocks, this teepee ring was really the one that was that was the most established still it was most upright still. And you wonder like how far back to these go like how far back to these, these stones that were laid into the ground go but they were using sort of like as a foundation for for the tent or the height of the teepee that they they would have established there. And then they would you know, work out of it. And they worked out of it on a bluff and then they would look out over the hill to the Lake area. And yeah, I don’t know, they just have a whole system out there. But it’s really amazing when you really start to, to come in and sort of understand the layout of the land and where people would sort of go and it’s very interesting man surreal really to get out. And like be in a spot like that, or sit in a spot sit in the center of the teepee ring where you know, there’s people, other men 1000s of years ago that were doing work and trying to survive out in really what is now a very harsh environment. And back then was still probably quite harsh, at least in the hundreds of years ago. But man if you start going back 1000s of years, even a few 100 years ago, I guess 500 years ago a lot of those dry lake areas out in Eastern Oregon really still had at least a marsh or at least a wetland or, or something like that. I mean like similar to summer Lake now you know parts of the year strive parts of the year, it’s filled with water. So it might be a quite a bit more like that now, but I think in the past, it was really
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it was it was just accepted that there was going to be some amount of water in in the lake bed all year round, instead of it being you know, a dry lake bed. And I think it’s I think it’s supported by the watershed of a few creeks that are in the area. And and in that area of Eastern Oregon, there’s really I don’t think there’s really that many, that many drainage is that really go all the way out toward the coast. So I think there’s a few parts that are like land black watersheds, where the water flows into an area and then and then kind of pools up and makes a large lake there. And well, I know like there’s the Klamath lake and then that runs out to the Klamath River. So that that ends up getting out to the, to the ocean, but I don’t know if like places like goose Lake, or, or just like these inland lake areas, I think they’re just fed by the body of water. And I don’t really know if a lot of that would actually get back out into the water cycle to head back out toward the ocean, and then you come back up or something. So it’s kind of interesting thinking about just some of the old watershed stuff that used to be out there, how populations used to try and try and work around all that. You know, like you go to a place like fort rock and you read some of the signs. And you look at how back in the Pleistocene area there that whole region out there was part of, I think, what’s called a Peruvian lake. It’s like a prehistoric Pleistocene era lake that really took up a huge amount of land out in Central Oregon, really what we think of now is just a large desert area covered with sagebrush, there’s really very few land features was actually just all underwater. The land feature of Fort rock that we’ve used visualized now, I think came about geologically during the Pleistocene era era before before the before the Ice Age and and probably a while back before that, but during that time, it was underwater. It was under a lake bed and so that’s where you get that formation is it was underwater, and then it kind of eroded around it this aquifer and lava are locked aquifer magmatic I met at a certain time I made this big ring this big guy Big fort rock style formation. And that’s still what’s out there now. But it’s really amazing when you get out there and you go see it. And then you kind of start to racking with the perspective that this all was once underwater. This is like an inland sea. And then, after the ice age or before the Ice Age, there’s some evidence of kind of, well, I don’t know. Who knows. But there’s evidence to show that the Clovis people, the Clovis tribes, which I think were the ones that at least in modern archaeology have been identified as the group that was first to come over the land bridge first to come into the Northwest and populate parts of the West Coast and into the south and onward and such. But I guess these Clovis people had had like a specific type of way of building their tools or stone tools that they would use. And that’s a bit of a way that you can track some things. If you do find an archaeological artifact, you can kind of identify by the technique used to build the stone tool. Like there’s, there’s different measures, I think one of the oldest ones that’s looked for is fluting. And that was a technique used by the Clovis people where they, they were sort of making an arrowhead or a spear point, really spear points, I don’t know, if they had had flying bows and arrows at that time that far back, but they, they build these spear points, and they would flute the end the bottom of it. So like, if you were to imagine that it would be kind of this concaved slope that was those sort of dremeled out of the bottom base of the rock, so that you could you could kind of fit that down in the center of a of a stick really, and then and then wind that up. So you kind of make both ends kind of taper off to a point and then you would jam one end into the stick and then wrap it and then I don’t know, you know, put SAP on it or, or, you know, whatever you can do to fasten it down. But I guess that was one of the techniques that was used early on. And that’s one of the things that they look for when they’re trying to find really old populations in Oregon. Sometimes it’s fluid. And that doesn’t always mean that it’s really old though, I suppose. But I guess there’s like handfuls of different technical or technological generations of stone tool building out there. And you can kind of tell a little bit, but it’s very fascinating stuff. And man was it not amazing to get out there and to really recognize it, you know, I was around a natural human manmade, well, a semi natural but man made artifact of a home or of an establishment that’s as Oh, I don’t know how old it is. Maybe it’s as old as early Rome, late Rome. Who would know how old it is in comparison to Europe? I’m not really sure maybe it goes back even further than that. It seems like there’s population in that area of Oregon for 1000s of years I think was it the pie you that was out there could be different but I know the pie you
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the pie you were south of that area. The pie you were in Lake County, I think like through heart Mountain alvord, Nevada, the now your area. All of that was pie. So maybe this was still on the pie section. But I know that that really you know, like what we’ve noticed in the last few 100 years if you were to to look at the changes of the map, even within the United States over the last say take 600 years, not even 7000 years, take the last 600 years of the United States of America and then look at all the different maps that would be the territorial ranges of those people who ended up being in power during that time. It’s really interesting to see and to kind of take no to how something that seems permanent or it seems to have the nature of permanence in it when you speak about it like the that was the range of the pie you Indian. Well was it for 600 years or for that long did it move around? Did they have I don’t know territorial engagements was it really that many of them were they there all the time. I don’t know any of that information. So it’s got an interesting when you sort of think about it but it could have been any number of large groups of people that probably would have no idea they were called the pie you Indian. But all really very interesting stuff and man was it so cool to get out there and see see a real a teepee ring. It’s really fun. It’s one of the the cooler pieces of archaeological artifacts that I’ve run into i mean you know you see Patrick glyphs, you see a lot of things but really, you know you’re sitting in the home of someone that lived 1000s of years ago that lived out in the same place that that I do now. Yeah, really fascinating stuff but I had a blast going out there and getting to check it out. It was really, it I don’t know I just I love I kind of love this stuff with the with the story with the background to it where you kind of get to attach some thing that you recognize with it with with what you get to talk about a week to show with it. So I thought was really cool story. It was really fun to get out there and go see it and remembered it from years ago. I think I’d seen it about 10 or 1112 years ago, and I think I tried to go back to it but I didn’t really see how to or where it was and I wasn’t really sure it’s not something on the map.
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Couple of things I wanted to talk about were some Mac apps today, I’ve been trying to sort of set up my mac book to be I guess configured with a few more utilities and a few more pieces of software that make it a little more functional for me. So I want to try and talk about those a little bit today. But one of them was I stat menus, it was this application that I’d heard about. Maybe over a year ago, I’ve been using it a lot when I was trying to render some 360 footage and a lot more like video footage, I was just using a computer like the whole day to do that. It’s this program is that menus is really good for adding in a bunch of information like a bunch of system information to your computer right at the top of the wizard bar at the top, you know, like the Apple menu and your time and your clock and stuff, right? If you get a bunch of a bunch of information about like your disk space, your network speeds, uploads and downloads, your CPU and GPU. It’s pretty interesting, I like to get into check it out. And kind of when you have a bunch of graphs that sort of indicate when or how much how much of a system is going toward that task at that time. So right now I’m doing an upload to Amazon photos to try and get a backup of all my images up there. And I’m looking at the network monitor and and so showing me like a history of my network upload speeds over the last 24 hours. And I see like there’s a big dip before like 5am while I was running overnight, and then now it’s back up like two maybe 3x what it was before. So it’s an interesting kind of monitor like how, how your speeds are that sort of thing. When I was running, rendering video out, it was cool, because you can see like the temperature sensor sensors inside of the computer. And in addition to that, you could see like the hard drive space that was left on eciu drives including your externals, and you can see how fast the CPU and GPU are working. So I’ve been using this app a lot for kind of the system process, monitoring stuff, it’s cool, I’ve been enjoying it, it’s kind of fun to to get used to. In addition to that another one that I’m checking out is probably one that a lot of people have heard of before, but I think it’s called magnet magnet, I think it sort of reproduces the functionality that you get, I think started back in Windows seven, where if you pull a window to the edge of the screen, it’ll sort of snap to the edge of that side of the screen or oral snap to BS split pane window. It’s kinda interesting how it works, but I like I like how it works on Windows. And I am have been sort of frustrated in the past that I don’t have that kind of utility in the Mac OS system. So you know, just windows are sort of built to kind of float all over each other. And I did kind of like that part of windows or even back in my experience of working windows, which is in a way I work with a computer now I have like seven windows up right now. The windows, I really always go to full screen application almost all the time. So it’s kinda interesting, that workflows rate changes over time. What else am I working on? Oh, Amazon photos, that was another one that I guess I’m kind of going through right now sort of lean into another side of it. But I’ve been using Amazon photos for a while and the Amazon drive system, I did have some backups or not even really backups for the photos, backups of the photos, as well as because it’s the dngs and it is the JPEG images, I think you can put video up there also. But that takes up paid storage space. So for photos that you can put as many photos on the cloud as you want with your prime membership. And I think I put like probably almost 100 gigs of photos up there. So it’s cool, you do have access to all of your images in that library of images you have online like I can pull it up on my phone in an app and I can pull it up on the web or in a few other places. So it just gives me an accessibility to my images. So I hadn’t really had before to every image and that way at least that’s kind of cool that you know, I do see that I have access to all of those photographs. Bigger than that I really need to go through and make more functional collections of smaller sections of that so that I have just a lot of the photos I would need to use set up and a high quality system that are more accessible to me that’s still that’s still a little piece that it isn’t really quite as tight as I would like it within my photo business. But I’ve been using Amazon photos to make up backup of everything if almost everything’s already there. But it can incremental areas, like as you go, you need to get all the new stuff up there. So I’m trying to put up a bunch of the stuff that I’ve had for the last couple months when I haven’t really been able to put a sync backup to the Amazon photos. cloud backup. The cool thing is though, is I’m trying to work with iCloud a little more in addition to that, and so I’ve been setting up the iCloud
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put it in Finder, so I can access my iCloud data there in Finder from multiple computers and from my phone, which is cool. But on my phone in my files app, I was going in there and I put in, sadly, the Amazon drive application on my phone, I had my files application sort of show that I can go to my Amazon photos files there from my phone. So without even going to the Amazon photos application just from my files app, I can go through and browse all those photos folders on the cloud and then pull up and view those images. I thought that was kind of cool. Or it was just interesting to see like Well, yeah, I can jump to each any data photos that I want back in time because they’re all backed up now and more accessible. So So I think it’s pretty cool. It’s a it’s a free service when you pay for a prime membership. So I guess the proper way to say it is it is it is a premium service that is included with your prime membership, which seems to be pretty valuable. A lot of the time. I like the Amazon cloud services and cloud storage services, which I’m trying to get a little more into, like I was mentioned, I think it’s I think it’s 11 or 12 bucks a year for 100 gigabytes of storage space on Amazon drive. Thanks a lot for checking out this episode of The Billy Newman photo podcast. Hope you guys check out some stuff on Billy Newman photo comm a few new things up there some stuff on the homepage, some good links to other other outbound sources, some links to books and links to some podcasts. Like this blog posts are pretty cool. Yeah, check it out at Billy numina photo.com. Thanks for listening to this episode and the back end like you next time.
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