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Hello, and thank you very much for listening to this episode of The Billy Newman photo podcast. I wanted to talk to you today do you use a password manager? That’s a question for you. I’ve been using a password manager for just a little bit of time. There’s a few out there. I think there’s, there’s like, what is it like the file vault or like the there’s something there’s a cyst, there’s like that was a whole system in the Macintosh program. I bet that probably works. There’s one password, which does like a lot of the file or the password management for you. And then the one that I use is LastPass, which I’ve been using for a while now. And I think it works pretty well. There’s a lot of password generation that it can do. If you’re interested in trying to get some heavy top secret hashed password that you can put in there have remembered specific to each of the sites and then you use like a master password, and LastPass like one that you will remember. And then it gives you access to these secure tokens that you use to apply your hashed password to the site that you’re trying to log into. It opens up some vulnerabilities and security depending on how secure you keep that that front door to your security system. But it really does provide you some opportunities to go back in and change passwords to sites or understand what the passwords were that you did when you manage them. So definitely something to keep in mind. Keep in mind a password manager. I don’t know interesting stuff out there. There’s a little debate about Do you want a password manager? Do you want hard to remember passwords? Do you want an easy to remember password that you keep super secret? All these little variances and nuances and security in the digital age. It’ll be interesting to see how it shakes out. But right now, one of the leading trends is using a password manager. So check it out.
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You can see more of my work at Billy Newman photo comm you can check out some of my photo books on Amazon. I think if you look at Billy Newman under the authors section there and see some of the photo books on film on the desert, on surrealism on camping, and cool stuff over there.
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Really trying to do a lot of scouting stuff, which I’ve enjoyed to doing some scouting stuff through the summertime has been pretty cool. Where I’m really trying to go through some of these backroads I’m trying to like Mark spots in the map where there’s good campsites, which I hadn’t really done before. You know, it was a lot of places I’ve driven a lot, a lot of roads I’ve been on, especially, you know, like back country roads, to Forest Service roads, BLM roads, and I know a lot of good dispersed camping areas and really understand the context of how to find those areas so much better now that I’m older than when I was young. I mean when I was young, and I go camping with my dad, you know, we’d go out to Eastern Oregon we’d find some spots and they had known about this spot since you know he was a kid and he was going over there and hunting camps and stuff with his grandpa. So it’s cool for me to get to go over to those same spots and get to check out that area and stuff. But I think there’s been or at least when I was a kid I didn’t really understand that the land, like the public land rights that you have and really how those are organized like how public lands are organized and what you can do on him and then sort of how it operates. I didn’t really understand the difference between national forest land and BLM land or national Parkland and state Parkland or wilderness areas, National Wildlife Refuge areas man there’s just so many different distinctions of different things and then also just private property so I didn’t really have a clear recollection of any of those things and really a lot of time when it’s public land you can go on it but there’s some things you can’t do on it like I there may be hunt in some circumstances, like is like a national park or I think you can’t discharge a firearm inside a national park but for specifically permitted events maybe probably national wildlife refuges I think those hunting opportunities are are limited also though you can still do some things in those areas I think you have to get permitted and you have to drag tag for that location I think is what it is. But But yeah, it’s kind of interesting sort of learning about that learning how these things go and also finally getting some maps that you can use that you can kind of trust better while you’re in the back country I think that’s something that’s really helped me kind of understand where I can go and what I can do and i don’t know i mean we’ve had those map books you know, like that, that 50 page or 100 page book of Oregon and you know every every page is 25 mile map of that area is always super useful as a kind of grid out everything and show you that you know the mile by mile marking and the topography of the area, the different little roads and stuff that even those roads. This mapmakers still got things wrong. I remember to you know, back in like, was it 2004 I think we were out in an area and In Southern Oregon near the Nevada border was a Druze reservoir somewhere south of Gearhart mountain. And I remember we were on some, some little, some little road I don’t even know if it was if it was a national forest area, I think it was just in between private and public lands as it kind of jumps back and forth in those pretty remote areas. All of it is just remote desert and forest and sagebrush and Juniper. But some of it goes into like ranch land, it’s more managed and some of it cuts back into BLM land as this as this little road sort of meander through it. But I remember being out there and noticing that the map on the page was just totally different than the map or than, you know, the real world ground truth of where the road went. And I thought oh, wow, yeah, you can’t really trust the maps to show you the information that you want to see when you need it other times too you know, you’ll see like Oh, hey, like it shows there’s a road right here. Good deal we’ll take that road Well, you know, it shows it’s on the map so you cut down there you get on the road and then it’s washed out like crazy or it’s super bumpy and like and just terrible, right? And but it’s the same green road the same label, the same marking is the road next to it that was graded and, and
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aren’t was that paved, right? It’s graded gravel, they put more gravel down, I think is what I’m trying to say they’ve, they’ve made it an easier going road to drive on. But then you get those washboard sections out there. I don’t know if you guys have been on that where you’re driving around in the Forest Service roads and those gravel roads. And I think it’s a natural process of erosion that occurs that creates these waves in the material. You know, as I think as a rainwater comes down, it sort of naturally over time generates these, these little ripples. And that’s the washboard effect that you get when you’re driving. That’s also the thing that kind of kicks your car sideways when you’re, you’re going a little too fast on a gravel road. So I started doing today I think I kicked it pretty hard side or you know, like, it’s pretty loose on the traction and it was starting to tip sideways in my truck. And so I slowed down and threw it into four wheel drive after that, and was able to cruise around out here pretty freely. But yeah, I wanted to talk on this podcast about hanging out in the Fremont National Forest and I just got finished with a huge thunderstorm that came through. It just really finished raining a little bit ago. We were kind of I think when I arrived to today at this Meadows still a few hours before sunset, so I walked around and kind of went along the perimeter of the meadow and then and then I noticed that you know, I mean it’s cloudy. It’s been kind of cloudy today, and there’s been thunderheads that have been building up over the location that I’ve been ever since I kind of came over the past the Cascades have been in like a pretty solid string of a thunderheads that have sort of coalesced into big mass over the Cascades some of it here over the Fremont National Forest river mountains these are that I meant and and yeah it seems like this section in Eastern Oregon was getting hit with a good Thunder a good summer August thunderstorm today which was kind of fun to sit through and go through it was cool if I got rained on pretty hard early when I was driving over. I thought I’d get out here and be a little bit more free of it. But it seemed like that storm kind of drifted over this way and it was sort of drifting north from here and and yeah, there’s a new system but man there’s just a bunch of lightning that was coming through and huge cracks of thunder just big deep rumbles I haven’t heard Thunder like that. And in years and years probably you know where it just kind of stays and like hangs and rolls for 10 seconds 15 seconds it seems like you know you just really kind of like whoa is Can it really still be just cracking and rumbling and rolling. And there was enough activity and if lightning activity that was going on there where you’d hear thunder. I mean, it was almost like 45 minutes there where there was just a crack and a roll of thunder almost continuously like it was a it was pretty intense. It’s It’s It’s really I think one of the more strong lightning storms I’ve been in in a while. But that’s sort of how it goes out here. When you have these higher elevations. I think I’m floating around up in the 5100 feet or so above sea level. And so it just means I’m up in the mountains where these, these thunderstorms get started, you know, they get there. They get there. I think that’s where they they’ll kind of coalesce over these big mountain tops and then float over in the hot weather. I don’t really understand the weather enough to say I know how a thunderstorm starts. It doesn’t start now. I’ve just gotten cold enough I’m trying to throw jacket on. Now you got to live through it. I’m really camping. It’s been good. But I’m gonna be out here for two nights I think is what I’m going to do and then tomorrow a cruise out and I’ll try and hit some of these Forest Service roads for a bit. drive around. do some exploring mark a couple spots on the map. As a as I’m cruising around I think that’ll be that’ll be a good time but the I haven’t been out here before I think I’ve heard of a couple friends that have been out in this area that have done some I think they did a couple scouting trips for a hunting trip that they’re going on in the fall I think this is an area where we’re one of my friends goes I think they try and drop a tag for not this area I think it’s a drainage over from here but I think I’ve heard about this area a couple times from from people talking about it so yeah, it’s cool it’s cool spot it was out taking pictures earlier taking some photographs I’ve been working mostly probably for almost a year and a half now I’ve been working a lot with this 17 to 40 millimeter wide angle Canon lens and it’s a pretty inexpensive lens and you can get it for like 400 bucks, maybe a little less if you’re lucky and you get it on a sale time sometimes in the fall as we’re kind of ramping down toward
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what Thanksgiving I think you can get some good deals on it but that’s it’s sort of in the the $400 range I think sometimes maybe it’s more around five or something but I picked it up a couple years ago when I was starting to do some real estate photography or while I was working for Airbnb for a while where they had hired me as a photographer to go into these Airbnb plus listings and get a new set of photographs I was interested in kind of learning about how specific they wanted all this this photographs and this this really specific art style and and you know format of it and that was fine It was interesting to do for a while but but what was cool is that I picked up that lens to get in and do that work. But really after that I’ve been appreciating how much I can do with that wide angle lens and then you know 40 millimeters isn’t way different than 50 millimeters it’s certainly different for the effects of portraits and stuff but when I’m out here doing landscape stuff and I’m trying to take pictures of a lot of this stuff is kind of sketch photos to where I’m sort of going around and midday I’m taking some photos of some different things I want some cat photos and my track and my my little cooler set up in the back here and so all that’s been good in addition to that the the Astro photography stuff that I can do with it is pretty cool because it drops down to the 17 millimeters it’s an autofocus lens, it’s a sealed lens, it’s it’s pretty it’s it’s pretty good and most ways and I’ve really noticed over time that I’m not as as absolut have a mandate for me to be shooting at a really wide open f stop you know shooting in a wide open aperture almost all my photos early on were 1.8 or or 2.0 or two eight or something and I would do that really because I was trying to I was really trying to get because I didn’t have very many lenses I was really trying to get as much effect out of that boat k out of that soft background as I could so I was really trying to lean into that and get some photos with it and I noticed with my camera and equipment at the time that it just it just looked better. They just did look better when it was at you know f1 eight I think I just had that nifty 50 Nikon 50 millimeter for the longest time that’s what I did did my early trips on and did a lot of my portfolio building stuff on that but but I’ve got a different 50 millimeter lens with me now I’ve got it on my film camera in my bag right now which I need to take out too and I’m trying to finish a roll of avatar film it’s been on there for a while and I’ve enjoyed shooting it it’s cool it’s a it’s a new Canon camera to me at least I got it used on kth and spent 35 bucks on it 10 bucks to ship it and it takes a weird battery to it’s one of those 90s film cameras it has this weird it almost looks like a battery pack this it’s like to almost like to double A’s if they were a little fatter but are bonded together and this little plastic pack and then you pop that in there and shoot for a little while I guess and it runs a meter okay so I’m getting by with it but I’ve noticed the film cameras stuff it’s it’s fun to have an awesome film camera it’d be cool to have a Leica and all the lenses I wanted but a lot of the time with that you know I have good lenses I have this this new or like canon l glass that I get to shoot through and for film photos and for the variety of images or the variety of lenses i have i can i can do telephoto I can do prime I can do really wide angle all with the modern digital Canon lenses that have you know chips in them that read well that meter well that make contact with or send information back and forth or at least from the lens to the camera I think xao works that works in the autofocus stuff for the digital camera this is this is autofocus Yeah, it’s an autofocus digital camera. It’s sending information back it’s working Yeah, that makes sense. Yeah. So it’s it’s cool like and that’s something I didn’t really have available to me for a long time. You know, I think when I’ve probably on this podcast if you go way back in the archives I’m talking a lot about film with a Nikon f4 you know, I mean that just had autofocus. I was done. First camera I like 88 to get autofocus period. So it’s cool to have that in a more flexible way now, but what I’d remember talking about in the past that was that I had like limited options with glass all the time, I didn’t really always have the lenses that I would have preferred. And so I’ve kind of made a collection of that now with this canon stuff, I got a Canon camera. And so I can throw all those lenses on and have that same flexibility that I have with my digital set. But just with this, this film body that I get to shoot a roll through so I kind of saved the film stuff for when it’s a thing that I want. But what I’ve noticed though, for a little while, is that I missed a lot of those moments and I ended up just having the
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the nor, you know, the regular digital camera with me with a bunch of my other gear when I’ve been going out and trying to kind of just take the camera with me and then I’ll leave the bigger bag back at the truck, so that I’m not really carrying as much stuff with me. I’ve also started cane, like what am I here in the woods and stuff I’m carrying that binocular harness with me, which is kind of cool, you can get them in different sizes, but it’s sort of like if you imagine like a backpack, but what they do is they strap on to the front so it’s right on your chest. And what you can do is fill is put like a pair of binoculars in there. So you can pull them out and then scatter around with your binoculars do some glassing and then pop them back into your into your harness and then kind of carry on with whatever you want to do. But if you leave that empty without the without the binoculars, if you have a smaller camera rig, probably like a mirrorless or a Sony camera, you know like one of those Sony A 6000s man, if you were a backpacker, and you had a Sony A 6000 and this, this front carry like binocular pack, you’d be really sad that would be like all the camera bag that you’d need. In fact, really if I’m thinking about ever doing some like over you know some longer backpacking travel, where I just have to pack everything in a way it’s gonna be something I’m more conscious of. And I think that’s really like the way to go is I’ve kind of been thinking about it a little bit it’s like get to get a lighter camera or I mean it’d be great to like carry like a 360 camera you know, if you’re going up somewhat later those are almost nothing as it is anyway but but if you’re carrying like an SLR or something that you want to try and do some some more controlled photography with you had something like a, an A 6000 from Sony or an a seven, seven or three or whatever it is something that size with a lens attached to it, you know, that could fit in one of these binocular hearts is harnesses and carry kind of route on your front and then you see something and we take it, pop that open right on your chest, pull it right up to your eyes, got straps on it in the harness, pull it right up to your eye, it’s ready to shoot, and you can take photos of it or take photos, you know as quick as you want to. So it’s kind of a cool process. If you’re out hiking a lot for what I’m doing. I have my binocular harness, but it’s got binoculars in it. And I’ve been kind of going around and trying to do some bird watching stuff while I’m out here. And so cool Hawk was posted up who’s looking at me, that’s about all I’ve seen so far. So I coyote the other day. That was cool. I’ll talk about that later that but
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because I had those binoculars in there, and I’ve been kind of going out on these, these shorter hikes and stuff that I’ve been trying to go around and like, just kind of watch them stuff or watch land and kind of keep an eye out. But I just had the camera on my longer strap on my side with that 17 to 40 millimeter lens. And that’s worked really good. And it’s been a pretty flexible kit for me to go around and take a bunch of photographs with so it’s pretty easy, pretty lightweight to work with. And I can kind of move back and forth between those things strapped around my neck, you know, it’s not everything just hanging around my neck with a lanyard. It’s all kind of put somewhere or packed in somewhere. So that’s been kind of cool. But it was good going out and taking some photos tonight, I was trying to get some of the i didn’t i didn’t get any lightning in the camera. Though the lightning stone kind of passed as soon as it was getting really dark enough to do like a long exposure kind of thing where I could I could sort of catch something, something spark and otherwise, you know, you gotta you gotta beat the lightning bolt with your shatter finger. And that’s a pretty tricky task to do. I think that’s how they do it. You know, when you get those, you get those like magazine photos back in the day of a powerful lightning bolt striking. I don’t know the center of a road or something like that. It’s what they’d show, you know, some kind of power lightning bolt, but the way that they would do that stuff is I think, I think it was like it was dark out, you know, are pretty dark out. And so they’d set the camera up for just a cycle of long exposures and then they would just kind of let it ride you know, so they’d have a couple seconds to expose the image to whatever you know would work. And then it was going to have that rolling so that when when a bolt of lightning did strike, and it would be captured and you could go through that collection of captured or you know, how is it that when a lightning bolt would strike the ground, the camera would have already been exposing for a photograph because it’s just cycling the shutter on a four second exposure, let’s say something like that. And so you know Takes a four second exposure stops, processes for a second, it takes for second exposure stops processes for a second. So I think that’s how they did some of that stuff where they, they kind of anticipate it’s been a couple minutes, let’s take a frame now. And then it’s just going to be an event in the future. So we don’t know if it’s going to happen or not, we’re going to wait for this event in the future when we boom, see a lightning bolt and in that light then exposes the sensor or the film and the camera. And then you’re left with an image that has that lightning bolt represented in the frame when you’re shooting on a tripod or something like that with with like a short cycle, long exposure. And I thought that was pretty cool. But I didn’t really get a chance to get all that stuff set up before the storm kind of passed me by I did get a lot of cool handheld stuff that was that’s great if the thunder heads and stuff and really unfortunately just in the location that I met a lot of and I guess maybe for the better, but that lightning storm didn’t pass right over my head, it was still a little ways away. So I could see the lightning bolts cracking through the trees can out in the distance more, a few they stretched across the sky pretty good too. It’s just a big old, you know, from from east to west, it was like a big old chunk of boulders crack all the way across the sky. It was cool.
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So I got some photos of the thunderheads, the sunset, the the big field out here, it’s cool. It’s a nice area. But I was also thinking about some of the other stuff that I want to be doing tomorrow. So I’m out in the Fremont National Forest, I’m going to be heading I think, maybe south from here, and I’m going to try and explore a couple areas that are still open. Or I guess it’s all open publicly, this is like a pretty large contiguous section of national forest land here. And really like that’s a big part of Oregon overall, right? It’s like 53%, public lands. It’s cool. Yeah, if you look at a map, you’ll see the cities and you’ll see like the highways and stuff. But if you have the right map, it’ll show you where the BLM land is and where the different national forest are. And it’s cool, this whole area, the Northwest is just, there’s a lot of public land that you get to use. And there’s a lot of open area that you get to go to and, and yeah, now that I’ve got a good map of the outdoor off road, roads and some of the terrain and stuff with some good notes, and I’m able to kind of move around and get out to a lot more places than I had before. So it’s been cool. The app that I’m using is the on x off road app, it’s, I think 2999 a year. And so pitch that out, picked up this app, and then you can download offline, these, these really detailed off road maps that are supposed to show you all the trails, you know, even just walking trails, all the roads, all of the like the pieces of information you’d need for kind of moving around in the back country and really as surprising as it is as remote as a lot of these places are people go Yeah, you know, it’s also public land is managed by the, the forest department forest Forest Service. Yeah, I think a lot of us that’s managed by the Forest Service, the BLM stuffs managed by the BLM. And that’s why these roads are as good as they are or maintained. And that’s why I like when trees are down on these mountain roads, you know, someone has to go through the beginning of the year and cut all those out, rip them out, filling the potholes, all that sort of stuff. So all these areas are, are known about and you know, kind of managed in a pretty significant way. In fact, I think, more so to come in the future. I think they just announced yesterday or the day before that they’ve passed the great American outdoors Act, which I really don’t know the first thing about or, or what it does or doesn’t do or what it puts in or leaves out. But I think part of my understanding is that it’s supposed to change some of the funding mechanisms that go into supporting the the maintenance of these public lands that are out here across the country, but really significantly out here in the western states. So it’s, it’s pretty cool. I think, before that it was like, well, we should spend, you know X amount of money, but there’s a more important place for that money to go. So it wasn’t like a guaranteed amount. Sort of what I understand so if I understand it correctly, there’s like I think they said $3 billion a year of mandated funding for projects. I think here in the back country, BLM land, Forest Service land and like national wildlife refuges and stuff so pretty cool. But yeah, I think that’s going to Well, maybe we’ll see a change in that I think it’s supposed to better fund the operations of BLM and forest service people as they’re going through and trying to get these areas ready for, for the public to be using more regularly. So it’s cool. I think it’ll mean a lot over the next few years or what maybe we’ll see how it how it kind of transforms Some of the way that these these areas are managed I think maybe it’s more for mine I probably shouldn’t even speculate. I’m not sure at all, but it’s pretty cool. I’m excited about being out here and doing some camping and stuff dealing with this thunderstorm. I think it’s one of those things where by the morning you know it’s going to be or at least well I was looking at the weather it should be mostly cloudy, partly cloudy, mostly sunny tomorrow for a while so I think that’s pretty cool. I’m excited to be hanging out do some cabin stuff, do some podcasting I’m in the back of my truck right now like I was saying it was raining earlier after this thunderstorm so I got that canopy on my truck and I’m nice and dry nice warm, kind of feels like I’m just inside somewhere so it’s it’s a cool cool rig having the foil drive having the canopy on the back having your staff and your sleeping area just kind of set it back there and I’m ready to go. So I’ve been having a good time being out here and it’s been pretty good. Pretty good trip so far I so appreciate you guys checking out this podcast from me I’m gonna do a couple more podcasts while I’m out here on this camping trip and I’ll I’ll try and try and set up a little backlog of them on my website I think it’d be a good idea now I kind of take their breaks and stuff from it.
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You can check out more information at Billy Newman photo comm you can go to Billy Newman photo.com Ford slash support. If you want to help me out and participate in the value for value model that we’re running this podcast with. If you receive some value out of some of the stuff that I was talking about, you’re welcome to help me out and since value my way through the portal at Billy Newman photo comm forward slash support you can also find more information there about Patreon and the way that I use it if you’re interested or feel more comfortable using Patreon that’s patreon.com forward slash Billy Newman photo I wanted to talk today about some stuff that I’ve been doing this last week for the last few weeks I’ve been talking about some outdoor stuff and some things kind of related to the the lockdown pandemic stuff but I kind of change change what I was talking about a little bit for this podcast but I wanted to get into was some of the training stuff I’ve been looking into around Logic Pro 10.5 that has just come out recently and I thought it’d be kind of cool to go over a little bit of an overview of some of the new features and stuff that are there and some of the stuff that you can do with a digital audio workstation and and why why bother talking about it but I think it was about about a year ago or so. I was talking about setting up the studio in the house that I met here and how I was getting the PC computer ready to go is an older one. I think like something from some desktop I had around from from 2010 or 11 or so. Yeah, yeah, about that time. And I remember getting that computer set up with a I think it was like Windows 10 on it. And then I was using I think the same audio interface USB out into the computer and then I had downloaded I had downloaded sonar, the new version of sonar that you can get for free. I think it had been owned by both cakewalk sonar. And then I think Gibson had bought out cakewalk. And so it became Gibson sonar, and then I think Gibson decided that wasn’t going to be part of their business anymore. So I think they just kind of shut it down, essentially, but then sold that off to band lab comm band labs, I think my Internet’s another internet company, they have kind of a simplified digital audio workstation app that you can use to kind of create a demo or something like that. But what they’ve done is they’ve gone through I guess and had purchased probably for a relatively inexpensive price or I don’t know I assume since they’re just they’re just keeping it and kind of partly maintaining or you know, doing a bit to maintain it. But they took the sonar Platinum program, the full digital audio workstation, multi tracking tool, and they made it free for people to use and for people to get but I think it’s only a Windows only program so you got to have got windows 10 to to run it. So I did that. Yeah, and and Sona was a program that I had worked with before for doing some some studio multitrack and stuff I think years ago probably around like 2012 2013 when I was when I was working with some Friends to set up some studio equipment stuff was cool, we had like a big sound craft ghost that was laid out. And then we had a bunch of a bunch of channels kind of running into that from from the microphones that we’re using to track this band. And then that all went into a pretty old computer was amazing what it could do, you know, for just a, it was probably like a two gigabyte of RAM, you know, smaller hard drive 2004 or five, six era PC computer probably didn’t need that much, right. There’s something about that time. But that’s what we use. Yeah, that’s like all we had all we had with us, we had a, I think it was like a PreSonus audio interface. And then we got like, like an eight channel audio interface. That was really cool. You know, we had like eight digital audio channels coming into the interface, which means we could track the live channels into sonar at a time. And it didn’t even pick up, you know, even on that old machine. And so it was interesting how that that architecture work to do some editing stuff, but sonar is what I had been using before. For some stuff, really audition, Adobe Audition is what I’d use most for some of this kind of more simple radio broadcast style stuff. And that’s what I had learned to use when I was at when I was at a radio station doing an internship years and years ago, back in 2008, right, Summer 2008, they did that. And they used Adobe Audition version 1.52, to do all their radio production edits. And yeah, I remember, I remember going in taking calls with the production guy, or somebody calling in to do like a,
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I think they would do like a water level report is really interesting radio at that station, now you can figure but they would have like this, I don’t know, suddenly, you know, it’s it’s 1245. And here’s your local water level report for July 28, or something. And then it would be some lady that would call in from a department that would measure this stuff, and she would give her water report and the production guy, you’d record it, and then produce that and then it’d be prepped to go out on air later. You know, it’s like a spot that a DJ would trigger upstairs. And so we kind of walk through using audition to do those steps. And so learning that as a program was probably the first one that I’d done. We should prior probably goes back to high school before that when I was doing editing stuff but but sonar, back to sonar was some of the stuff that I’ve used. Probably a good bit more for the for the music, you know, like trying to like track a band or do like multi tracking projects. But so yeah, that’s what it used to be. That’s why I thrown on this windows 10 PC to do some audio production stuff for this podcast workflow that I was trying to get into. And it’s cool, it works really well. But But I stopped using a computer A while ago, I think the the the windows 10 computer that I’m talking about had a power supply go bad, which could be replaced pretty easily and is on a to do list of mine. But since then I really just been relying on kind of like I’d mentioned, just recording, recording onto the device. And then using Adobe Audition to do the post production work on my Mac Book, which is kind of interesting, it’s just a more, it’s just a better workflow is that for the for the most part, so I’ve been kind of sticking with that. But recently to get to the point, as you are all excited. Logic Pro 10.5 has come out no logic, as yet to be mentioned in this podcast Logic Pro is the program that was produced by Apple as their professional digital audio workstation. And so there’s GarageBand, which probably a lot of people have some experience with. And GarageBand is sort of the trimmed down simplified home user version of a program like, like Logic Pro, and they’ve done that intentionally I think it’s the same team that generates the two programs and if you if you look at them, or you look at their interfaces, and you look at their the types of access, you have to things that you really do see a familiar similarity to it. Which is cool. So if you’ve used something like GarageBand in the past for home projects, you won’t really have as big of a difficulty moving into a more professional digital audio workstation environment, like Logic Pro 10. So I think it was Logic Pro 10 just you know, 10 zero, it came out on or product 2013 or so I think that was that was sold for 200 bucks. So it was like a purchase price of 199. And then since then you get the point updates for free or you know, as included with your original purchase. So just recently, I think they’ve been like 10.4 before this and then now they’ve moved on to 10.5 and 10.5 I think is probably the biggest, as noted by, you know, plenty of new sources. As noted as as one of the most significant feature updates that logic has had probably in years and years. I mean, I think this is the first time that they’ve gone through and removed updated some of those legacy items that have been in there since 2003 or four or five You know, it was just some of these legacy products that were that were originally put in there as including their interfaces to it looks like a 2002 interface for for like there’s these synthesizer interfaces where these these weird knobs that you have to these were just rotating features of the interface it looks like it looks ridiculous, I don’t know any other way to explain it it’s it’s pretty wild for some of the some of the stuff that’s just remained in computer computer systems for a long time but for 10.5 to try to go through and update a lot of that stuff. And it’s really interesting there’s a lot of cool new features in logic 10.5 so logic is real similar to sonar which is I guess kind of why I mentioned it at least through my experiences similar you guys would probably think it’s similar to what people that are listening probably actually some Well, no one’s listening What am I saying if someone were to bother to try to find some information out about logic and they ended up listening to this podcast they probably have had some information about it or they would be coming from from an experience with avonds Pro Tools and Pro Tools is like the industry standard for multitrack and DAW software and I’ve never used it I’ve never opened Pro Tools I’ve never seen Pro Tools you know in in its process at all i don’t know i did a couple videos or something but yeah I have no I have no experience working in Pro Tools in and I don’t know I’m not a fan of of avid software overall you know for Pro Tools or for
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or for the avid system of video editing stuff either i’m just i’m not i’m not really that interested in that kind of stuff that they put together really for prices stuff too It just seems kind of kind of over over done a little bit so so I’m pretty happy with with some of the other the other more available tools that are in the consumer computer market I mean I think it’s like 800 bucks or something still to get to get abbotts Pro Tools and I think that in the past it was you know insanely more than that even we you know kind of proprietary back in the past it was more difficult now I think m audio is a partner with Pro Tools and so in the past if you had Pro Tools, you have a lot of proprietary Pro Tools, audio interfaces that you had to use if you wanted to set up your studio to work seamlessly with the Pro Tools software. Now I think they’ve made a deal with em audio which is sort of like a less expensive audio interface manufacturer they’ve had like interfaces and microphones and you know they’ve got like an array of I think they’ve got like some studio monitors they’ve got some interfaces they’ve got like keyboards is a big one that they’ve got I’ve got a keyboard over here from them audio and what is it yeah am audio but less expensive. They make Pro Tools interfaces which is cool now so they’ve got a partnership with Pro Tools and I think that they’ve been trying to make that more accessible to musicians probably because it’s become a more competitive market with but really with like logic Logic Pro i think i think the industry standard stuff is I mean it always seems like more secure that it should be it doesn’t it doesn’t seem like an absolute that Pro Tools should be the digital audio workstation of engineers across the world but for whatever reason it’s just kind of taken over and and as those people you know are still still in those positions i think that’s that’s just what’s taught in audio recording school is like a standard even though there’s a lot of other good other good services and choices out there. I think I’ve seen sonar and logic taught a lot too so I don’t know they’re they’re definitely competitive and as I’ve been hearing more this there’s there’s produced new music producers that are coming out saying oh yeah, I do a lot of a lot of my work and in logic and there’s you know, there’s a whole class of music producers that are logic based producers or sonar based producers or, and I seems to kind of rotate around every couple of years for for who’s doing water, you know, who wants to look cool. people that use Pro Tools one of the cool probably a lot of them back to back to old Logic Pro 10.5 here’s the good stuff. So thanks a lot for checking out this episode of The Billy Newman photo podcast. Hope you guys check out some stuff on Billy Newman photo comm a few new things up there some stuff on the homepage, some good links to other other outbound sources, some links to books and links to some podcasts. Like this blog posts are pretty cool. Yeah, check it out at Billy numina photo.com. Thanks for listening to this episode and the back end. Thank you next time
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