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Hello, and thank you very much for listening to this episode of The Billy Newman photo podcast. I was just talking about terminal stuff and SSH in another podcast just a little bit ago. And I guess what I was gonna say is, how much about the channel? Do you know? Do you know any terminal tips? I was gonna try one out today, talking about it, it might be kind of tough. I’m sure that’s what you’re interested in listening to on your Alexa right now. Wait, I mean echo sorry. I was gonna mention the commands if you go to your Mac, or you go to a Unix system, as it were you open up a terminal. A couple of things you can run, it’s probably going to run bash, I figure like I’m some expert, but I think that’s the Bourne again, shall I think it’s kind of one of the more modern, sort of basic default shells that seems to run. If you run Linux, I don’t know got up. Yeah. And you probably know a lot more about it than I do already. So you know, you’re on your terminal tip for the moment, especially if you’re on a Macintosh, I guess it doesn’t work on a Windows machine, because that runs DOS, right? It’s not a Unix-based system shoot. But if you’re on a Mac, and you want to get into your terminal, and you want to move around just a little bit to sort of seeing what it’s like, I guess two commands that would get you started would be the ls command in the Bourne shell. So the bash shell. the ls command is like the list command. So when you type in LS, and then return, what you’re going to have to happen is it’s going to list the contents of the directory that you’re currently in, in text and command line. Oh, man, it’s pretty exciting. You’re gonna be excited when you see it for the first time. If you want to see some other things, I guess what you try, this is a bonus one, this is a big one, too, is CD, this current directory command. So if you want to, I guess move directories from what directory you’re at now, your root directory, let’s say and you want to move up to your pictures directory that you see when you type in LS, you’re going to type in cd space, pictures, and then you’re going to hit return and that’s going to move you to the directory of pictures. Then when you type in LS, you’re going to get a list of the contents of the directory in pictures. Wow, pretty amazing. You moved a directory in Unix and you found out on this flash briefing.
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You can see more of my work at Billy Newman photo calm, you can check out some of my photo books on Amazon. I think if you look at Billy Newman under the author’s section there and see some of the photo books on film on the desert, on surrealism on camping, and cool stuff over there. I think Yeah like I said, I like the October period, you know, it’s kind of a cool outdoor month for stuff and that’s kind of what I’m going to talk about too is kind of layering up stuff for October I’ve been trying to kind of build up the layers of clothes and the layers of like shelter stuff that I have for some of the outdoor travel stuff that I go out and do and I do it on a budget and I don’t have much stuff and like other people have a lot more experience of like just getting to try all these different pieces and see like the benefits or the kind of weigh out the pluses and minuses of different pieces. And so I’m sure it’s probably the case that like the best gear is always the best gear. It’s kind of interesting to sort of go through those checklists or you know, like kind of in your mind like seeing like what like how’s this work or what’s better for me for this thing or not. So I’ve been pretty happy to always have or for the last couple of years to have like a vortex range outlay and for a lot of outdoor stuff that I do in Oregon, later into the year that’s been like a real lifesaver for having just like a hard waterproof shell that I can like the trust that as like a good hood on it that I can keep me dry for most of the day. That along with I guess kind of like working inward like the puffy jacket makes a huge difference. And so I use a puffy jacket all the time. There are a few differences like sizes though and you sort of have to like look at the down fill layer to see what’s going to be best for you and like the climate that you’re going out to that it’s kind of weird it goes back and forth through me a little bit. So like out here in Oregon, where I am like west of the Cascades it’s sort of a mild climate a lot of the year and so I’m able to I think you’re kind of dealing with like above freezing temperatures. Most hours and on most days through the year I think like you know there’s some sections of the year where you get some heavy freezes but outside of those storm times it’s like pretty mild weather a lot of the time and if I’m going camping or doing something outdoors in the winter. Well, there are a couple of different types I definitely use it but really for a lot of like the three-season work I do. I use a light puffy jacket either because of North Face Thermal, or thermo ball, I think it’s like a like polyester-based one. It’s not a downfield, puffy jacket. But I’ve used that for maybe six years now. And I appreciate having that I think it’s great. That’s probably one of my most used insulating layers when I’m going out and I mean works great, really all four seasons with the kind of compared in these mild weather circumstances like I am here in Oregon like that paired with that shell, it has been enough for me to go out. And in almost every kind of weather circumstances I’ve been in when I’ve gone out and been working or like when I was working outside a lot in the rain and trying to be outside like most days through the fall and winter, it was really fine to do that with a strong or like a good GoreTex shell that keeps you dry all the way and puffy, thermo insulating layer that keeps you warm. So it’s pretty cool, but kind of comparing that and I have like this Patagonia jacket that I think has a heavier down fill rating and that has a lot of insulation to it, which is cool, warm jackets are great. And I take that out kind of deeper into the winter. But what I noticed though, is that for a lot of circumstances, like I said three season work. And while you’re working or kind of like physically kind of exerting yourself I’ve noticed like if it’s not below freezing that is too warm of a jacket to wear. And so you kind of get to pick a little bit of like where your environmental thresholds are like what kind of environment you spend a lot of time in and is it going to be above freezing temperatures below freezing temperatures, or is it going to be hot weather temperatures like where you’re working, you know, your coldest temperatures might be 50, but you’re going up towards like the 80s and 90s pretty regularly. And that’s kind of a different environment to work into. So I’ve been kind of trying to keep an eye on that. But as we’re kind of dropping into October the outfitting stuff that I’m doing is sort of away from the heat gear stuff that I would have been using where I’m in like lighter synthetic shorts and
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trying to use lighter layers and stuff like in the winter you kind of get to layer up and stuff we just got to kind of fun sweater weather right so what I picked up last year I’m kind of excited to put some more use into it was a wool baselayer so I got a great wool t-shirt and I kind of appreciate trying to cut out some of the cotton material that I’m using when I’m going out and doing some more outdoor stuff and I guess it’s because back in the day cotton was a great revolution right you know it was a more breathable fabric and it would dry faster than other fabrics that they had available to them I guess is part of what was cool about it. But as I sort of understand now it’s one of the riskier types of fabric that you can wear as a base layer when you’re out in the woods for a couple of days or when you’re out camping or you know the talking TV shows about when you’re in a survival situation. And not only that but yeah when you’re out camping or if you were going to go hunting or you’re going to go on a couple of day photo trip in the woods and you’re just going to be living out of your truck and stuff. It kind of is it ends up being a little difficult to use a lot of cotton pieces especially if you’re going to get wet or if it’s cold and you don’t want to get wet but you do get wet and that’s a bummer because the cotton stuff just kind of stays wet and it gets cold when it gets wet. And a couple of those things just sort of lead to it being a little bit frustrating and I guess that’s where some of the survival complications have happened with people who are out in okay conditions they get hit with cold rain or wet snow and they’re in like an outer let you know their insulating layers but they’re like a cotton coating. Or like I guess tough, warm-insulated Carhartt jackets on hunting in that they got into some wet snow on the second morning. The Carhart wet pants got or the pants that were insulated. got wet from the tall grass and brush that they walked through and then the person became hypothermic because of their exposure to the cold that soaked through their pants that got them very cold I think they had to like ditch the band’s get into their sleeping bag it was synthetic and then they tried to like to warm them up with a hot water bottle in a sleeping bag or something like that out of the Jetboil but like it ended the trip I think they like they can’t continue that sort of stuff so it’s kinda interesting I like that kind of thing can go and I know people have probably heard anecdotes like that similarly in the past I’d hear like someone else talking about like a warm weather thing where I think they were going out on like a 42-day canoe trip Can you imagine that like going through some big river system and Labrador up in Canada. Wow, fun times popping out in Hudson Bay or something. Who knows. But they would go up there and they would talk about like all like the specific limitations on the type of fabrics that they would select to use because like if they got wet in the river or I think it was like cold weather or Who knows what kind of weather you’re going to get sort of circumstances where you go between hot and cold and Canada kayaking or canoeing down 1100 miles or something like that just big long trips like that and they would kind of be really specific about how like they won’t even have cotton boxers or cotton underwear because it’ll be the thing that ends up being a problem other people or another person, I think kind of there’s a lot of great ways to sort of work through this next problem, but I think someone argued that they did have cotton on them so that they could use it as a fire starter. If they needed a fire starter I suggest just bringing a fire starter or some other material like that, I think it would probably get you by a little better than, your cotton underwear. The best fire starter that I’ve used and heard about was
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Well, I mean, yeah, like a stove or whatever. But if you’re trying to light a fire in the winter, having a plastic bag with Vaseline-dipped cotton swabs was like a pretty inert material. Just like having a backpack that doesn’t smell like kerosene or something. And it has multiple uses, you can use it cosmetically for everything’s our goodness if your lips chapp I hate it when it gets dry and cold and you go oh man, my pores can’t handle it. They were in a different environment. 5000 feet a difference in elevation a day ago, too much change and too much seasonal change. Now you get like, I don’t know just rough spots or dry spots or you use a Vaseline you get the cotton swabs for all sorts of different things, but they’re fantastic. If you light that up. It’s a great little flame ball and you can use that with a stack of your other dry materials to get a fire going. Even in pretty wet conditions especially if you’re kind of keeping your Firestarter material protected in some little party backpack, keep it dry and stuff that works out pretty well. And I think it works better than your underwear on a rafting trip. So but yeah, I’ve heard of that. Yeah, people, people try to not use that people try to like drop their leather belts. Like they won’t take a leather belt out into the woods either. I like having like a sturdy belt. Like what you see people like big leather boots or whatever it’s not because it gets washed, or waterlogged, but I guess because it’s maybe a weight thing. I think that’s what the idea was for, for maybe they’re like going backpacking use like a piece of nylon webbing as a belt at that time. or other stuff we’re like, I don’t know just little tricks and things of like how you kind of hide certain materials and other materials and stuff. But it’s weird how it goes. So I guess yeah, cotton stuff is sort of a go. They talk about using wool a lot as sort of like a preferred material to make it out of or down here like down stuff is kind of a preferred material. And then I also kind of hear similarly sided, bad things about sort of the petroleum developed products that you get from polyesters or nylons, or I guess like this polyester insulating foams, you get like those thermo ball insulating foam that would be in the pouches of another polyester material that makes up like the puffy jacket that I wear. For the Patagonia one that’s a downfield, puffy jacket. You have little goose feathers poking, poking out of it all the time, too. Yeah, I feel like you feel around the right way a little goose feather I’ll punch out the side and pull it out a little feather right there a little down feather, which is kind of trippy. But those I guess are like a better insulating system. Then like the synthetic kind of oil-based stuff and I guess the same goes for like sleeping bags too. If you want to get into like a sleeping bag to keep you warm. There’s something like the 15-degree bags that are well I don’t know and it has a couple of other features too. I guess it’s like light and it stretches down well and if you get it wet, you can get it dry again. Well, I guess it depends on like certain qualities down sometimes that kind of gets I think a little tricky. But the wall I guess you can get. You can get wet, you’ll stay warm and you can get it dry faster. And I think that’s sort of the benefit of the war on the animal that gets wet to you know like if you think of a sheep getting rained on all the time. I guess it’s sort of part of the fibers that don’t attract a lot of odor because it has to be on an animal all the time. And I guess it does well to not have to like make you cold when it gets wet. I guess that’s a big part of it. So a lot of the merino wool fabrics that have come out, or the merino wool blends that are with some little bit of spandex or some other kind of natural fiber product that they try and put in helps to kind of be a little bit more durable when they have those little blends. But mostly you want a pretty strong merino wool fabric. And that’s pretty cool if you’re getting sort of like a base layer or something like that. It’s A little bit more tuned for the outdoors it’s like wool sweaters or something that you can find but that’s not quite there cool old wool shirts you know like an old old Pendleton shirt or an old Filson shirt that’s like a lagers kind of wool button that would go into like a canvas jacket. I kind of think is cool but that’s sort of a different look and it used to be the technical gear layering and probably still you’d see if you get like I don’t know like a horse guide like a guided trip with a horse or a mule or something like that’s the pack in a bunch of stuff they probably still use gear that sort of similar to that without the kind of like the technical synthetic gear that you try and find it like Rei hiking places or something or, or wherever, whatever else similarly branded. But yeah, it’s cool trying to do some wool Merino underlayers and trying to work with those puffy jackets when they can
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try to work with well I have a soft shell that gets a lot less useful than it used to be. I used to try new soft shells all the time but I just kind of go with the wool, the wool base layer, The North Face kind of wore you know like a warmer temperature-rated puffy jacket and then have the gore-tex layer over that. picked up a hat this year. That’s pretty cool like in that boots. I had a couple of different sets of boots for the October stuff before it gets really heavy in the season and before it gets like real wet or rainy. Now while I’m kind of doing some of this lighter outdoor stuff I have like a pair of heavy leather boots that are super cool for some of that deeper hiking stuff that you get into especially after it’s wet and rainy and stuff but really for a lot of the light season stuff and sort of summer spring stuff. I have these Nike s FB boots, it’s like military boots I picked them up in brown like a desert tan color. And then I also picked up a similar pair, the underarm remakes and so they’re kind of like a lighter, more athletic shoe from the base but they have like kind of tall neck that goes up to like your mid-upper ankle there. And so it’s not like a real table or like it’s not like galoshes they’re not waterproof they’re kind of vent on the sides and they dry out they’re kind of like a synthetic material that dries out pretty quick when you do get it wet but it also has like a good bit of tread and you can get them wet get them dry and wet. I think they kind of made for
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an okay dry environment that’s sort of where I use them most of the time is you know hiking around for any of this kind of lighter duty forest I was nice because they’re light boots like with those other heavy leather ones like just the soles of the boots seem like they pound each you know you kind of like feel it the first couple days you getting back into the use of them during the season where you’re like man my feet are like four pounds heavier it seems like each just kind of like walking with a weight on it. So it’s nice to have one of the newer sorts of higher tech boots that don’t have the same kind of ankle support as a thicker leather boot does or they don’t have the same kind of heel support. I like to talk about like those you know thick, like like a two-inch heel or something that like one of those white boots has. Or if you get like Red Wings they have like a real deep, thick heel that you can use to kind of stomp in and cut in on some hiking stuff, and for these yeah it’s just kind of like a good sort of smooth walking boot and you get some ankle support from that that tall neck but it’s sort of fabric so that it seems like it you’re just it’s a light boot as seems like you’re ready to you know run and you can do like an athletic maneuver and these pretty well and it doesn’t seem like the boot is going to be too heavy to slow you down not right for every circumstance like if I’m going in a deeper area. It’s cool it’s nice to have like the kind of protection of a steel-toed leather boot. But like the normal s sfbs I think are not steel toe I think I think these Under Armour ones though are and then there are steel-toe versions that are out there. But that does seem to I’ve kind of run into a few circumstances where after some of the more woodsy stuff it seems like having the steel toe has helped a lot to keep my feet protected and stuff and if you hike in a lie you got to get to watch out for blisters and stuff too. One of the big things I’ve noticed to help that is like really breaking in your shoes with three weeks or more but three weeks of like pretty near full-time use to start getting them broken in or to get kind of the feel the break the crease, the kind of the fabric kind of working together in the way that it’s going to fit around your body and stuff. But yeah, it seems like it takes about three weeks to sort of get those issues broken into a spot that that ends up being comfortable for longer trips and longer where I had like a pair of chocos and this Draco’s, they were great you know that you don’t wear socks if you don’t like to buffer it with wool socks or something. But I remember I think working with those for like, three weeks or so at first your feet man. They will Rub raw. Yeah, yeah they’ll you’ll get some hot spots with the webbing on those chalk as it’s like this really kind of tough webbing but after like three weeks or so like after you kind of wear your foot into it so that it’s kind of strong enough to deal with it. And you also start breaking in the rubber of the boot or the rubber of that foot for the shoe. It’s you it’s your foot. But once you get that all kind of broken and I was able to hike for miles and miles in those and have no rub problems at all. I think I did. I think I did the whole hiking trip up to the summit of the paintbrush divide and the cascade Can you know, like the Teton’s chip I talked about sometimes Yeah, I did that whole hiking trip with the Tetons in early, mid-late September. Probably right around now. But I did that trip in the Tetons with just those black shakos that I had that had like kind of that boot shed bottom and I did great through that whole trip I did like a 42-mile trip down the lower road that was like a hiking backpacking trip so you have a background backpack on the got these little river shoes on and you’re hiking away on the trail and yeah, a lot of the times if you’re not really in shape for it man, those will just rip your feet up pretty badly and I’ve seen it affect people’s trips before you know like where their shoes just like really start to bite in on them. And it happens fast. As soon as you get like a hot spot or something it can be just a quarter mile or another mile and then like that problem has been exacerbated a lot so as soon as like gets bad boom man gets bad fat or it starts to degrade fast and then once it’s gone it’s gone on for a while you know it’s bad. And it can cause some mobility problems when you’re out there. So I think kind of to kind of deal with some of that stuff. We’re kind of breaking them in earliest at school, which is what I’ve been trying to do with some of my shoes. But yeah, trying to get outfitted for this stuff in October. It’s been kind of fun, trying to work out the layers
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But the holidays were kind of an interesting time because I ended up sort of thinking a lot about what But well, what photographs are, you know, I’m getting a little bit older now. And I think there’s there’s sort of like a change in the vision that I have of the way that I kind of think about photographs or you know, what, what is their purpose? Why are we making them and in a big way, like maybe propagated by the Instagram culture or the sharing content creation culture that sort of seems to be out right now, especially for those you know, photographers or artists, I think they feel the pressure to be content producers now, and that maybe is a little bit of a different job than the photographer or the real artists, that kind of person. And so I’ve been trying to sort of think about that a little bit. And then and sort of taking a look at the trends of Instagram and my art is what I need to pursue. And a lot of the time I sort of noticed this, and even in my images, this like super sharp, super crisp, everything has to be perfect or edited or meaningful and dramatic and these images. And what I’m noticing a little bit especially as I review my older images is the photographs that I’m drawn to. They’re the photographs that represent the truth more, they’re the photographs that kind of have
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I don’t know what it is really but they have a little bit more of an essence of reality. Or maybe it’s its reality, but it’s also a little bit of grit to it to like this happened it was magical. It was interesting, I liked that surrealism in the photographs that I take and I have for a long time but there’s a little bit more and I’ve always I think a lot of stuff I’ve done kind of pushed for the Unreal. And some of the stuff that I’m kind of noticing the last couple of years as I looked at like the photographs and how they change this sort of how that shifted from the Unreal of landscapes of the world. You know kind of trying to select things about landscapes You know, when they have unusual colors to them, or unusual dynamics or phenomena like clouds or weather or water or something like that makes it sort of feel like a different look or a different image than like what we’d see midday at noon if we looked at the same thing. So I think that’s still part of photography but one thing I was noticing through the holidays and reviewing a bunch of my old photographs was how much the stock value of, a photograph goes up over time, over one year, it’s a bit over a few years, it’s a bit more, but over a decade, you get, you get to see the change that happens in time, you know, I get to see, like much younger relatives. And these photographs took 15 years ago than they are now and it seems like kind of an obvious point or seems like something everyone should know. But really, there’s a huge amount of value in the photographs because they capture something at the time that it was and you get to hold on to that after their people or the moment or the event or the experience changes. Certainly, notice as I’m getting older that life does sort of change, it changes, then it’s an obvious kind of the point of fact that everybody’s sort of known about for a long time. But in my naive sense, I’ve been so focused on photography or image creation or on the product making something that’s kind of crisp and sharp and perfectly usable today. I don’t know if I was thinking so clearly about how the nostalgia factor or how the value of something you know, from a family or just sort of a small moment that’s captured this, this more real, how that escalates in value over time. And like coming at these photos, 15 years later, even like seven years later, from some of the stuff that I had, it’s really interesting to see, like, wow, like I took a ton of photos of this type of topic. But I didn’t, I didn’t take as many photographs that sort of represented my artistic experience in my life. For that humanity, I want to try and show more of that in the photographs, the humanity that kind of the way you feel about a photograph. And I think that’s so much about what a photographer is there to do is sort of being able to kind of pick and select which moments to capture and which ways you’re going to be able to share that stuff in the future that’s going to become more nostalgic, more meaningful, or just a way of kind of knowing Oh, this was part of my life. Wow, that’s cool. So I’ve been trying to think about some of those ideas around photography for the new year a little bit but along with that I’ve been going through the last like 15 years of photos and in my big super catalog that that collection of Lightroom photos I made that’s kind of trying to pull in every phone photo, every phone video every different camera I’ve had since 2002 I’m trying to get all those photos together, put them in there I think it was like 120,000 images something like that which isn’t that many photos for someone that’s been doing stuff for a long time. But I went through those and I tried to like punch those down to a lot of the Select so out of the images that I kind of want to keep from and I was trying to pull out a lot of good photos but but photos that were kind of irrelevant to me for this sort of future moving forward catalogue of stuff I want to get rid of like product photos or word photos that are hundreds and 1000s of photos even that kind of fill up space and memory in the catalog I’ll keep those definitely but those will be backed up on another hard drive but what’s active to me what’s in my library currently I want to be like the last I think I’ve talked about this for like the last two years or so photos and whole in total so I can get back to that library and edit any one of those raw files that have but for stuff that’s older than two years like 2015 and before I kind of want to pair those down a little bit so that I’m a little bit more specific and unable to get to those photos that were selects a little bit faster and then especially for older stuff like pre pre 2010 or so I want to around really have those pared down to like the the 100 photos I actually you know I need to have around two to get to for for whatever kind of stuff I need to do. But it was cool that going through the old photos and you just kind of do it in this pretty quick way you know this is a star This is a two-star kind of thing. So you kind of punch through those pretty fast and then and then I have another round to do or I’m going to try and punch it you know from one star to two stars those are going to be what I keep for a while and then from that I’m going to try to render that down to select all the three-star photos all the that’s kind of like I would take this photo and sort of put it under review and then and then my system at least is a little bit of the four-star five stars zone that’s for this is going to be published or this is going into the portfolio or as content sort of thing. So yeah, I’m gonna try and push on that stuff a bit more and get some photographs sorted for the year but is cool going through all of these old trips that we’ve done all those different places that we’ve gone to and of course I’ve seen well one thing I’ve noticed is good lord how bad at Photoshop I was. And I want to say that I’m going to put a little blame because I remember this happened at the time but I want to put a little blame on how god awful my laptop monitor was like a 2006 2007 2008 laptop monitor just had no color gamut against what we know now in like modern o l or LED Retina Display monitors like Apple puts out or like any kind of modern LED, more color accurate monitor that we have now but I was looking at it and there’s like it’s just so muddy. There are few colors that it can represent. So you have to push things a little further out of the gamut, or at least I did at the time, kind of not understanding what I was compensating to. So I look back at some of these photos and go, Oh, I would never make it this yellow and green in a modern world. So it’s kind of interesting what you know, whatever was going on, or whatever I was thinking about at the time visually, that sort of drew me to that place. But it’s interesting to see like how that changes, how your aesthetic sort of changes, and also a little bit of how your tools and calibration systems changed and sort of seeing like, wow, off was that way back, then. So all stuff that you kind of learn and you get better at and it’s interesting, at least to the benefit, you get better over time. And like a decade later, I see changes in the kind of creative or the style that I would lay out just if I started working, you know, out without actually having to try and implement a style, you know, try and lay with Oh, I’m going to make a photograph that’s black and white, and of events and personal or something, instead of trying to go out with, you know, a set intention of that which you should or could in any set of photos. But if I just go out and am shooting what I am drawn to the photographs that are capturing get in the way that I kind of perceive what they look like, and how I want to show them to people, that’s all kind of changed and evolved. And it seems like my choices in that are better than they once were. But it was interesting to just kind of seeing like, man, how many years and years and years, it takes me taking photographs before any of these photographs really got good or got to the point where they were more than snapshots or more than just kind of data collection sort of thought of myself as an archivist for a long time where we’re like the job wasn’t really to be a photographer where it was editing to select like a moment and character and sort of like nuance between things that have like an emotional pole to them, I didn’t really understand that type of composition stuff, I just sort of understood the camera mechanically functioning is a light capturing tool. And so that was like that was probably the first four years of photography was sort of thinking about it like that, like I’m capturing data of reality. And then that’s going to be processed into something else later. And it wasn’t really for years until I understood like emotional vision or you know, like having some way to kind of tie the way you feel to the way that you see something and that was interesting kind of learning about how some of those things work and it’s still such a long road and I still have you know, no, no real understanding no real experience in that by anybody that’s trained just self-taught. Little Billy out here and nowhere Willamette Valley So yeah, that’s some of the stuff about making selects.
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