Teepee Rings In Eastern Oregon
Billy Newman Photo Podcast | Teepee Rings In Eastern Oregon
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Hey, what’s going on? This is Billy Newman and you’re listening to the Billy Newman photo podcast for Thursday, October 19 2017. Does any of that sound right? Is it the 19th? I think it is. Yeah, it’s probably something like that. But today, I’m recording a podcast. I’m in my truck. It’s raining really hard. I don’t know. Well, I’m sure I’m sure everybody that’s on the west coast is starting to notice that we’ve had like a really cool week, two weeks, three weeks of October so far that have been really nice, or you know, generally pretty, pretty good weather. And I think even like Monday through the next week is going to be pretty nice also. So hopefully you have a good holiday weekend. coming up in just a little over a week of that. Yeah, we still get at least some dry weather before it kicks into that nasty wet rainy weather of Oregon in the winter. But it’s weird kind of trends are starting to transition back into the real fall season that we get here in Oregon with with all the water, all the rain, all the wetness and stuff but
I
don’t think I’m looking forward to it really need more summer. I think this one went by a little too fast this year. So hopefully there’s something we can do to to lighten the load and figure it out this year. But man isn’t it a drudge the next Like what? Two Three months? Not October? Probably not the first part of November but man the last? Yeah, the last half of November. I think that’s what you know, everybody says that’s why we have the holidays during that time.
But man
Daylight Savings Time ending going back to standard time super dark in the morning super dark in the evenings. I’m not too excited about any of it. But But yeah, it’s kind of a weird part with the the changing of the seasons as it’s coming in. And it’s weird being deep in the fall. Now watching the colors in the trees start to change quite a bit. You know, outside of my house I talked about a little bit. But there’s, there’s two of these maple trees. One of them goes off, goes off like it turns orange or starts to turn collars and drop this leaves about two weeks earlier than the tree next to it. So right now there’s one tree that’s a maple that’s nearly dropped all of its leaves. But then the tree right next to it is now just starting to turn its leaves like it’s I think most of its green is just starting to learn to read and then to yellow. But it’s kind of cool to get to see just these two slightly different varieties and maple trees next to each other kind of grow so differently to their understanding of the almanac, like their organisms, their species understanding of when, what temperature you know what to do. So it’s kind of a weird thing, maybe it’s the same type of tree, maybe it’s but i don’t think so i think it’s kind of a different microclimate between the two of them. And it’s a different variety. And you know, it’s interesting to in the springtime, one tree will bloom two weeks before the or the same tree that that loses its leaves early, it will bloom early in the spring when it comes around. So it’s kind of interesting when you sort of notice those little eccentricities of things in nature and how they’re their cycles kind of come at certain times. But today, I have a couple photographs to talk about that have gone up on Instagram and other places in the social media world. You can check those out at Billy Newman on Instagram, there’s a couple cool ones out there. And actually, I’m kind of happy with some of the stuff I’ve been doing. You know, I’ve been really busy with photo stuff. And it might be one of the more successful months of doing little photo things that that have been around for a while. So really happy about that part. But this last week, I made a trip out to Central Oregon, and it was still really nice. You know, we had a little bit of rain, I think out there last Thursday, Friday, and then Saturday, Sunday, we just it just brightened up a ton. It was super crisp, super bright, really cold though. I think my friend David just got out to Eastern Oregon, I think got towards Smith rock. And he said it was super cold out there too. But yeah, this trip, we did like an overnight trip out there. And I think today I just posted a photograph of something I thought was really cool. It’s one of the archaeological remains that are out in Eastern Oregon. And there’s a whole interesting history about stuff in Eastern Oregon. But the photo that I posted to Instagram and Facebook and all the other places today is a photograph of this rock teepee ring. That’s still in very good condition. It’s out in Eastern Oregon in this area in between. I sort of knew like where a dry lake bed where once just a lake would have been now what we see in our modern time is just a dry like that. But the cool thing is, is as we kind of look around you can see the remnants of an old indian camp that was really quite established in that area. I think it’s it’s just amazing to get to go see you’ll find other artifacts from Indian populations out in Eastern Oregon. Once you start looking around like you’ll start noticing obsidian ships that are on the ground or you’ll start noticing really in like some places you through a lot of Oregon through a lot of the the less developed less forested areas of Eastern Oregon there’s there’s a lot less erosion that’s taken place. Natural erosion has taken place over the last few 100 years like over here on the west side of the coast with all the deciduous plant matter that comes up. There’s a lot of turnover that seems to happen like a lot of the vegetation is going to end up hiding or overgrowing, some of the older encampments or establishment that were made. I mean, right now I’m in the Camus Valley in the Willamette Valley where the calapooia Indians were, I’m sure out here in front of me in this big field out toward the Willamette River. There’s tons of Indian artifacts, tons of old indian casts, but none of that’s really visible because of all the deciduous, organic material that’s been developed over here. over the many hundreds of years, since it’s been that there was an Indian population in the area. Now, what’s interesting about Eastern Oregon is that because it’s way more remote, there’s very few people out there, there’s very few people to disturb a lot of things. And really, sagebrush doesn’t grow very fast, things don’t really move around very fast out there. I was there, I think, maybe more than a decade ago. And it was really almost the same as it is now very little has changed out there. You know, there’s no new house, there’s no new development, maybe maybe a fence around the thing. That might be it. But it was really cool. So you get out to this area,
you hike out to a spot, then you can really see all over the ground. It’s just a ton of black obsidian sharks, these unworked pieces of black obsidian that were carried in by people, and then dropped there at some point. And all these pieces were used, I think in the in the, in the camp to chip out arrowheads and a chip out of the tools that they would use. But it’s really cool. This tip ring is really the only rule there’s a few TP rings, like a few smattering of like piles of rocks, this teepee ring was really the one that was that was the most established still it was most upright still. And you wonder like how far back to these go like how far back to these, these stones that were laid into the ground go but they were usually sort of like as a foundation for for the tent or the height of the teepee that they they would have established there. And then they would you know, work out of it. And they worked out of it on a bluff, and then they would look out over the hill to the Lake area. And yeah, I don’t know, they’re just a whole system out there. But it’s really amazing when you really start to, to come in and sort of understand the layout of the land and where people would sort of go. And it’s very interesting man, surreal, really to get out. And like be in a spot like that, or sit in a spot sit in the center of the teepee ring where you know, there’s people, other men 1000s of years ago, that were doing work and trying to survive out in really what is now a very harsh environment. And back then was still probably quite harsh, at least in the hundreds of years ago. But man, if you start going back 1000s of years, even a few 100 years ago, I guess 500 years ago, a lot of those dry lake areas out in Eastern Oregon really still had at least a marsh or at least a wetland or, or something like that. I mean, like similar to summer Lake now, you know, parts of the years drive parts of the year, it’s filled with water. So it might be a quite a bit more like that now, but I think in the past, it was really it was it was just accepted that there was going to be some amount of water in in the lake bed all year round, instead of it being you know, a dry lake bed. And I think it’s I think it’s supported by the watershed have a few creeks that are in the area. And and out in that area of Eastern Oregon, there’s really, I don’t think there’s really that many, that many drainage is that really go all the way out toward the coast. So I think there’s a few parts that are like land black watersheds, where the water flows into an area and then and then kind of pools up and makes a large lake there. And, well, I know like there’s the Klamath lake and then that runs out to the Klamath River. So that ends up getting out to the, to the ocean, but I don’t know if like places like goose Lake, or, or just like these inland lake areas, I think they’re just fed by the body of water. And that don’t really know if a lot of that would actually get back out into the water cycle to head back out to the ocean and then you know, come back up or something. So it’s kind of interesting thinking about just some of the old watershed stuff that used to be out there, how populations used to try and try and work around all that, you know, like you go to a place like fort rock and you read some of the signs. And you look at how back in the Pleistocene area there, that whole region out there was part of, I think, what’s called a Peruvian lake. It’s like a prehistoric Pleistocene era lake that really took up a huge amount of land out in Central Oregon, really what we think of now is just a large desert area covered with sagebrush, which really very few land features was actually just all underwater. The land feature of Fort rock that we’ve used, visualized now, I think came about geologically during the Pleistocene era, era before before the before the Ice Age and, and probably a while back before that, but during that time, it was underwater. It was under a lake bed. And so that’s where you get that formation is it was underwater, and then it kind of eroded around it this aquifer
and lava
or a lot aquifer magmatic, met at a certain time and made this big ring, this big guy. It’s big fort rock style formation. And that’s still what’s out there now, but it’s really amazing when you get out there and you go see it and then you kind of start to rack in with the perspective that this all was once underwater. This is like an inland sea And then, after the ice age or before the Ice Age, there’s some evidence of kind of, well, I don’t know. Who knows. But there’s evidence to show that the Clovis people, the Clovis tribes, which I think were the ones that at least in modern archaeology have been identified as the group that was first to come over the land bridge first to come into the Northwest and populate parts of the West Coast and into the south and onward and such. But I guess these Clovis people had had like a specific type of way of building their tools or stone tools that they would use. And that’s a bit of a way that you can track some things. If you do find an archaeological artifact, you can kind of identify by the technique used to build the stone tool. Like there’s, there’s different measures, I think one of the oldest ones is looked for is fluting. And that was a technique used by the Clovis people where they, they were sort of making an arrowhead or spear point, really spear points, I don’t know, if they had had flying bows and arrows at that time that far back, but they, they build these spear points, and they would flute the end the bottom of it. So like, if you were to imagine that it would be kind of this concaved slope, that was those sort of dremeled out of the bottom base with a rock so that you could you could kind of fit that down in the center of a stick really, and then and then wind that up. So you kind of make both ends, kind of taper off to a point and then you would jam one end into the stick and then wrap it and then you know, put SAP on it or, or whatever you can do to fasten it down. But I guess that was one of the techniques that was used early on. And that’s one of the things that they look for, when they’re trying to find really old populations in Oregon. Sometimes it’s fluid. And that doesn’t always mean that it’s really old, though, I suppose. But I guess there’s like handfuls of it a different technical or technological generations of stone tool building out there. And you can kind of tell a little bit, but it’s very fascinating stuff. And man, was it not amazing to get out there and to really recognize it, you know, I was around a natural human manmade, while a semi natural but man made artifact of a home or of an establishment that’s as Oh, I don’t know how old it is. Maybe it’s as old as early Rome, late Rome, who would know how old it is in comparison to Europe? I’m not really sure maybe it goes back even further than that. It seems like there’s population in that area of Oregon for 1000s of years, I think was it the piute that was out there could be different, but I know the pie you the pie, you were south of that area, the pie, you were in Lake County, I think like through heart, mountain, alvord, Nevada, the mount here area, all of that was pie. So maybe this was still in the pie section. But I know that that really, you know, like what we’ve noticed in the last few 100 years, if you were to look at the changes of the map, even within the United States over the last, say, Take 600 years, not even 7000 years, think the last 600 years of the United States of America and then look at all the different maps that would be the territorial ranges of those people who ended up being in power during that time. It’s really interesting to see and to kind of take note to how something that seems permanent, or seems to have the nature of permanence in it when you speak about it like the that was the range of the pie you Indian. Well, was it for 600 years, or for that long? Did it move around? Did they have? I don’t know territorial engagements. Was it really that many of them? Were they there all the time? I don’t know any of that information. So it’s got an interesting when you sort of think about it, but it could have been any number of large groups of people that probably would have no idea they were called the pie you Indian. But all really very interesting stuff. And man was it so cool to get out there and see, see a real a teepee ring. It’s really fun. It’s one of the the cooler pieces of archaeological artifacts that I’ve run into. I mean, you know, you see Patrick glyphs, you see a lot of things, but really, you know, you were sitting in the home of someone that lived 1000s of years ago, that lived out in the same place that that I do now. Yeah, really fascinating stuff, but had a blast going out there and getting to check it out. It was really, and I just I love I kind of love this stuff with the with the story with the background to it, where you kind of get to attach some thing that you recognize with it with, with what you get to talk about what you get to show with it. So I thought it was really cool story. It was it was really fun to get out there and go see it and remembered it from years ago. I think I’d seen it about 10 or 1112 years ago. And I think I tried to go back to it, but I didn’t really see how to or where
it was and I wasn’t really sure it’s not something on the map, as they say. So I think that’s most of everything for the billing human photo podcast. You
can check out a few of the other photos that have gone up on Instagram in the last couple days. I think there’s a couple of good ones. Maybe I’ll backtrack and talk about those in the next podcast but this was pretty cool. I’m glad I got to talk a little bit about some of the stuff out in Central Oregon. Some of the the old legs out there and man some of the cool artifacts that you can get to find but but yeah, that that teepee ring is pretty rad. It’s cool to see hope you guys get a chance to check it out at Billy Newman on Instagram. Billy Newman photo comm if you want to check out more of my stuff, and yeah, I’m gonna be doing some networking events this week. I’m gonna start talking to people who knew that was part of business, right? Anyway, that’s it for this episode of the billion human photo podcast. On behalf of nobody. Thank you very much for listening to me talk to myself in the rain in my car. Bye