The Night Sky Podcast | The Movement Of The Milky Way 10/28/18
Produced by Billy Newman and Marina Hansen
The Movement Of The Milky Way 10/28/18
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Hello, and thank you very much for listening to this episode of the night sky podcast. My name is Billy Newman. And I’m Marina Hansen. And tonight we are live again in the field in the wild that we are under the night sky in Maui, Hawaii. And we were up near a coffee plantation up the road from the Lynette Kaanapali area. And it’s cool. We have sky above us, we have a little bit of like cloud and mist and stuff over to the side. But it’s really more clear and darker than it was a few nights ago when we had talked closer to the full moon. So we probably have probably a couple hours even to tell the moon comes up tonight, I think so it’s it’s been a couple days, but it’s nice. We are under the night sky tonight. And we were going to I guess make some observations and talk about him a little bit while we’re hanging out here under the sky. So it’s kind of fun. What did we talk about last time we were talking we were going through like a bunch of the star stuff and sort of like where some of the things were, I think we talked about like the Summer Triangle. Or like some of the start like Vega and didn’t have an Altair. I wanted to talk tonight about like, how we can see the Milky Way tonight. And it’s cool right now this time in October like what you notice over there, it’s like you see that area of the sky? And so what you might notice is like what you see Taurus over there, do you see Taurus over there? It’s pretty faint, but you can kind of make it that V I’m sure after this car passes. Once the headlights again. Okay, well so Okay, look up there. Over to the east. You see the Pleiades I do see the Pleiades right so if the Pleiades at the tail of the bowl, the little tag of the tail then then the horns of the bowl are down here. So you see the V bright so that we see is all Tiburon. And then we have like the V of the bowl over there and Torah. So we see we see tourists over there. And then we see the Pleiades and then we move up here and we see parts of Perseus so we see like Capella down there in Riga, Riga. I didn’t learn my constellations. But we see Perseus up here, which we’ll get into that in a little bit, too. I want to talk about Perseus stuff. And then as we move up here, we see Cassiopeia and then we kind of move across here. And then we see the NAB and Seder and Vega. And then I’ll tear over to the side. And then we kind of move on further down toward the western horizon where we see Sagittarius. And so what you’ll notice with this is this band right here in the Milky Way. You see that out? It’s kind of like right through there. Yeah, a lot more noticeable today.
Yeah. And what’s cool, though, at this time of year is what we’re noticing is, so in the summertime, we would have been looking at the Milky Way running north-south as it rose up above the horizon. So you would look kind of appear, and you sort of see the band of the Milky Way stretch from the north part of the sky, to just the due south part of the sky. And that’s sort of the weird kind of motion that you see in the stars over the night. Is that as the kind of turn around the North Star over here? Or is it our star Verizon or star over there, my feet lower than I think. But as you see the stars rotate around the North Star, they kind of have like a circular motion to them. So they come up from the east or North East area. And then this they come up, they straighten out at the top toward their Zenith, and then they start to kind of curl back in. So that’s why some of the stars are like circumpolar like the ones that are well, at least like this, this far south, even in Hawaii, that’s a little bit different than what we’re used to at home. But like if it if it were a little bit further home, you kind of see the set of stars that sort of turn around the North Star, but they would stay up the whole time. So they’d be like up throughout the year. I think like our tourist is close to that if you’re in northern latitudes, I think like up near up in Canada or something like that, or definitely like in Alaska, you can see Arcturus, I think the whole year long is it kind of cruises around the bottom and then comes up again, similar with Capella too, as you can see that for almost the whole year, because it’s in like a part of the sky that’s just sort of stays because you’re so far north as far south. They said, I guess, seasonally, of course. So it’s kind of interesting spotting that out. But what we notice now though, and what we’re talking about is this band of the Milky Way that stretches across East-West now so we have Sagittarius really sort of over probably what’s on the western horizon where like Saturdays I think we probably can’t even see it right now. It’s probably close to down or or just in like the murk of the clouds sort of on the horizon line of the ocean. But what’s cool is Yeah, we’ve kind of moved this way, eastward, Lee. And so what we do is we move from Sagittarius, who’s what we know is a summer constellation Like a summer and sort of end the summer-fall constellation. And then we move up to this stuff that was summer constellation like Vega did NAB Seder Altair like those stars. And then we move over here to like Cassiopeia, which is one that we really kind of don’t see rise. Well, Cassiopeia is the one that’s really probably one that kind of goes around circumpolar around the North Star. Along with the Big Dipper, that’s probably like what’s most noticeable about some of those, the asterisms that make up the constellations around the North Star. But what we notice is that that’s sort of an winter constellation that starts to rise up. And then we see Perseus which is sort of a winter constellation. And then we see that stretch over there to Capella, which is part of the the winter constellations that are kind of come up. And we see it stretch over there, to Taurus and alder Baron and the Pleiades, which is sort of a winter constellation. And then after that, we’re going to see Orion. And then here in Hawaii, we’re going to get to see Sirius and proceed, and of course, but then further south of that, because we’re further south, near the equator, we’re going to get to see Kenobi has come up. And so what you’re noticing is that all of these bright stars that make up a number of constellations, these over here to the west in the summertime, and then these over here in the east, are winter constellations that are coming up. And so we’re that fall point right now, where now we’re going to start seeing these winter constellations in the Milky Way, these bright stars that are here, sort of bend up, and then they’re going to start to point toward the south again. And that’s where we kind of get that rotation of the stars throughout the year to come through. Does that make sense? A little bit? Yeah, I know. I remember noticing it from past years.
Yeah. So what’s cool about this time of year, and then I think, like another time, when we were out in Eastern Oregon, we were hanging out late at night on a camping trip with Robert in the springtime. In March. Remember that and we went out, we looked out on the sky. And we could kind of see sort of on the horizon we were looking at and kind of making note of the stars we could see. And it was sort of this same circumstance in reverse, where you get to see summer constellations, and winter constellations and sort of how they’re all on this band of the Milky Way. by a certain time of year, the fall. And then now more than later, the springtime, you get to see kind of a different view of them than maybe we are used to during the winter, or during the summer where they’re they’re kind of rotated east-west along the axis. It’s kind of cool. It’s interesting checking it out. So the thing I wanted to point out as one of the winter constellations was Perseus up here, do you see this one up here? So we see like, it’s kind of hard to spot a little bit. So there’s Cassiopeia which is the W four we see here, and then out sort of from Cassiopeia. This way is the constellation of Andromeda is to Cassiopeia. Yeah, it’d be easy to Cassiopeia as we kind of lead out a little bit, that’s gonna be like, the constellation of Andromeda. So up there is gonna be the Andromeda galaxy, which I think we had spotted and talked about before. And then over here, like, so down, there is Capella, though, we can spot and that’s, it’s like that star and then DC like those. You see probably one star, and then there’s a third star over there. And then a fourth, but there’s like a little like kind of curve shape right there. And that’s like the constellation that Capella isn’t, but up here is Perseus. And so I guess it’s the head of Perseus over toward, I guess it would be the west side. And then you kind of come down. And then out. along this stretch over here is where Perseus is the hero holding up the head of the Medusa. And so that’s that side over there. Do you see that? on the east side? Yeah. On the east side. So I think it’s I think it’s the star, that bright star there i think is Merv, fac. Like Mar, fa K, I’ll probably screw up these names. And then the brighter star that’s kind of out to the side is Oh, Satoshi star. Hey, that’s our second one tonight. Thanks, you see it, no shooting stars. So that so the first thing is Murphy back. And then the other one out here is like our goal. And I think our goal was like an Arabic word. Because like a bunch of the star names are Arabic. I think our goal was one that meant head of the ghoul. And so that’s sort of related to like Perseus and how it’s Perseus holding up the head of Medusa, which is pretty cool. So it’s just kind of an interesting way of thinking about that constellation. But yeah, so that’s the constellation of Perseus over there. It’s kind of neat. And then we see like the Pleiades over there like that little bit of a Dipper, a little cluster of stars, which is like the tail I think was mentioned earlier of Taurus the bowl. And then so Taurus is in the Zodiac line. Well, I think after that it’s like was like Taurus and like, Gemini and cancer are kind of all over there. And then we’re gonna see like Leo, I probably got this out of order just now. And then what if you were going to, I guess rotate that up, like up here a little higher? Do you see these two stars up here? Says the Pleiades down there. And then there’s like these two stars that are a little closer together up here. northwest of Pleiades, what would that be? It would be or just west west of the Pleiades and just a little south. So the Pleiades and then it’s these two stars? I see. Yeah. So that is the constellation Aries up there. And so it’s like Aries the ram that’s in that spot. And so that’s like another one of the constellations that’s in the zodiac sign. I think that’s the one that would be in the sun during the month or maybe it’s April. Does that sound right? And April and Pisces before that, which is going to be kind of over here, I guess is like the constellation of Pisces, the two fish. And then is it Aquarius and Capricorn?
Or is it the other way around? Well, guy, well, there’s Capricorn out there, but where, but where Mars is. And then I think it’s moving into Aquarius over here. And then it’s Pisces over here. And then Aries over here and then Taurus over there. Hmm, maybe I’m getting that right. But it’s cool. Good to see some of the stars out here. I think it’s kind of neat. Yeah, that’s causing the lineup. Yeah, yeah, definitely. It’s cool. Getting to see him like in a line like that. And yeah, getting to make some observation is pretty fun. Yeah, it’s really interesting getting to go through and see how some of the Milky Way constellations are lined up here, east to west as we see it now. And then out some of these Zodiac constellations are kind of lined up just a little askew south of there now. And it’s kind of interesting seeing how the zodiacs are with a path of the stars and the stars, pardon, the path of the planets and the sun sort of intersect with the area of the Milky Way over there. And then they do it again, as as the sun goes around and intersects with the Milky Way over on that side where you get over toward towards Scorpio, and Sagittarius on the other side. So it’s kind of interesting, sort of seeing how those two bands sort of come around and intersect with each other a couple times a year. I just think that’s kind of interesting to sort of spot out a bit. But yeah, it’s cool getting this spot out. Like Taurus over there and the Pleiades starting to come up. I’m excited for some of these winter constellations to come up. And I’m excited to get to see some of the stuff that can Opus and some of the Southern constellations that we can’t really see from the mainland United States.
Me too. I’m really excited to have like a whole year of getting to see constellations move through in the southern or more southern
hemisphere to be really cool. We have to make a trip to the southern sky Marina. That’d be so fun. I want to see a hole. I’d be so disoriented. I noticed. Yeah, it’d be really fun. Yeah, I think you would just see like a bit like how we see the like the constant like the Zodiac constellations that summer, like how we see Scorpio on our southern Horizon, we would see it on our northern horizon. Wouldn’t it be wild? Like you’re so turned around? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, cuz I orient myself at night, at least, like so much. But like, Oh, yeah, I know that. I know that when I see how that comes up, and you’re just kind of familiar with it, because it’s your home. But yeah, once you move into the southern sky be it’d be totally different in a way, I guess. So I want to see the Large and Small Magellanic Clouds. I’ve heard about those before. I’ve never really seen them. I’ve seen like pictures and stuff I’ve done, but it’s like, it’s like two little chunks of the Milky Way galaxy, that are separated from the Milky Way galaxy. And so it’s like this little kind of clump of the Milky Way look, but just like Out, out and off and the southern hemisphere. Oh, interesting. Yeah, that’d be really neat to see. Yeah. Yeah, I think that’d be really fun. But I think there’s a pretty pretty deep southern sky. And yeah, it’d be really fun to get to spot some of that stuff. But so that’ll wrap up most of our stuff. I think we’re gonna come back for a Halloween episode soon. I think we have a couple cool things to talk about, that we’ve been learning about in relation to how the whole day of Halloween exists in relation to the calendar. I think that’d be really cool to talk about. So, on behalf or excuse me, I guess we’re gonna wrap up our podcast now. So thank you guys very much for listening to this episode of the night sky podcast. My name is Billy Newman, and I’m really handsome and we will talk to you again soon on Halloween. Bye