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Billy Newman Photo Podcast | 203 Logic Loops, Petrified Wood
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0:14
Hello, and thank you very much for listening to this episode of The Billy Newman photo backcast.

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Logic Pro 10.5 introduces live loops, this is probably one of the bigger feature updates that’s been seen in logic or in an integrated digital audio workstation and yours probably probably like 20 years or something I know it’s all seem to be about the same way you just have, you just have a multitrack environment that’s like a linear starts from zero time, and then ends at the end of your project, you know, to infinity, let’s suggest but you’re not till you’re in multiple minutes. And then in this, you have that multitrack view where you just kind of layering and stacking these different sections so that they’re they’re coming together. And so you can kind of visualize how those sounds are coming together. I think now, in opposition to that there’s programs like Ableton, which had non linear audio production development. And that’s kind of complicated to say, but I think it was a different way of visualizing the interface so that you could trigger loops in time in a measure or in a bar. And those would trigger appropriately in that measure. And then when you had that, that set up of, you know, a couple loops that would cycle through, you could trigger those on and off. And you can kind of create, create changes to whatever that that sound was. And then you could record that or or send that out. That’s kind of I don’t know, that’s a that’s an incomplete way of explaining Ableton. But the idea in Logic Pro 10 here is they’re kind of merging those two environments. So you had them both available to you and your digital audio workstation stays works station space at any time. And so the live loops, representation that we get in logic, pro 10 is this grid of kind of chiclet style buttons that you’ve become accustomed to seeing on an iPhone or something like that via this grid of buttons. And then in that, you can drop drop in loops that you have. So these real instrument loops, and the loop library that you have, you can bring those over and set those up in track locations, but you just have this block there. And the next that you can grab a different loop or a similar loop, and then drag that into the second block. And so what happens is that if you were to tab or click on that loop, you get a play button, and it would play that one loop all the way through to the you know, to the end of the loop. And then if you were to trigger that stem of loops vertically, it would play all of the loops that you would set up in that vertical column at the same time to play in time with each other. And then you would create a new creative mix of music, it’s pretty cool, it’s a really nice and fast way to kind of demo out ideas and all this time you’re not recording these ideas necessarily, you’re just kind of playing them live, starting and stopping them live. And then trying to come up with was sort of the the mix performance of how you’d want these stems to come together in a final production. And so it’s really cool, you can have your drum track in there. Or you can have a couple different variations of a drum track, if you want to go between a different a different beat, or a different velocity of rhythm during the chorus section to the verse section to the bridge, you can kind of break those pieces up. Similarly, like if you go down next to like your bass loops, you could have you know, a baseline that was started in the intro, and then change during the first verse, and then become, you know, some simplified refrain during the chorus and then kind of change out again for the for the rest of it along with the lead along with you know, whatever else or whatever the textures you want to add into your tracking, you can kind of have those laid out in these in these kind of square pads, like a drum pad sort of thing. And then as you trigger those sounds, or you can trigger horizontally to if you want the ideas, you can organize stems of things vertically that you can trigger, so you can go to those live. But if you want to mix that up, you can shut everything off, and then play those loops individually as they’ll play with each other to make new sounds. And so you can be really creative and do a lot of a lot of interesting things, I think. I think it’d be pretty cool. Learning about what I did for training stuff is so right now, Apple has. I think as mentioned earlier, the Logic Pro 10.5 system software, the software is I think $199 to purchase. If you purchase Logic Pro 10 you get this update included at no cost, which is really cool. But if you have yet to purchase logic and you’re interested in trying out or trying to learn some stuff about about this digital audio workstation versus others or whatever it might be, they’ve got a 90 day free trial going on right now. So you can go to you can go get this and then try it for the next 90 days in full service and see if you like it and so It’s definitely worth it in that capacity I think that’s kind of cool

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what’s also cool is there are 70 gigabytes of sounds that you can get in a sound library to attach to your Logic Pro 10.5 software and so with this they’re all royalty free all available to use loops and MIDI instruments and sampled instruments that you’re, you have access to create music with so it’s really cool and it’s really so much music and sound and audio and all these loops contained that you have a ton of creative options available to you and right there and that’s what’s cool is you get so you don’t really start off with a dearth of an experience once you just get this audio software It comes with 70 gigabytes of instruments of everything for you know bass electric drums, organic drums, like any kind of percussive interest instrument and he kind of synthetic, or any kind of synthesizer sound that you want to try and get you can achieve with it is really cool. So yeah, you can take those and throw it in, you can do this 70 gigabyte download of data and throw that onto an external hard drive now which is pretty cool. I think for a long time, they just had this integrated database where everything had to sit on your main drive. And I think that drove drove a lot of music producers crazy as they tried to have, you know, bigger libraries of loops and stuff, but it’s probably in part because hard drives weren’t fast enough back in the day for that sort of stuff. But now in the last many years since like Final Cut has had at video libraries on external drives, it seems like they should have made the capacity for for logic to have. Have your loop library on an external drive a little easier.

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You can see more of my work at Billy Newman photo comm you can check out some of my photo books on Amazon. I think if you look at Billy Newman under the authors section there and see some of the photo books on film on the desert, on surrealism on camping, you cool stuff over there. I’m out on a camping trip right now and I’m in the back of my truck on the tailgate at a campsite in the Fremont winnaman National Forest in South Central Oregon. Pretty sure that’s about where it would be maybe it’s still Central Oregon, I think it’s it’s still in the mountain area before you drop down into the Great Basin near the location that I was for the last podcast when I was talking about hanging out near that cabin near meadow and since then I’ve been driving kind of around through these Forest Service roads, checking out different campsites that are laid out in some areas a lot of area up here I think I think when I was looking at my watch and it says we’re about 4900 feet I think it was about 5200 feet near maybe the higher parts that I was at but yeah this is this is pretty high up here. I think it’s a little bit of snow on the ground in a spot a while back when I was driving a little shady spot that and get it been been warmed up which is weird to see in August. Not much snow out here though you know by any means. So I think I appear in the springtime in a different area kind of further down and lower and elevation and I think it was early April and I could get away is up the mountain but I think I got snowed out really quickly before it before you really even break into you know the Forest Service roads that are up here. Even even the more well traveled ones just weren’t maintained through the winter. These are gravel roads out here. It’s like a cinder cone that’s crushed up and then spread across the roads or I think further to the west, they’re still using gravel. I think I crossed over from Klamath county now into Lake County. As I’ve been making my way I think on the the map app that I’ve got that onyx off road app that I’ve been using a lot out here it’s really been a good benefit to have a road map of all these Forest Service roads and all the trails and the terrain and stuff that I’m looking around but but yeah, it really helps to kind of scan around and see what’s around you and how to get through some places. But I mean, you’ll have like just real tiny ATV trails. troublingly though, I think I mentioned they’re not really totally differentiated with notes on how bad each different road is. It’s just a solid green line that says you can drive on it and it might be a well graded gravel road. That’s why like a like a highway, or it might be a really small and brushy like overgrown powerline road that kind of cuts along a property line. That’s what I was on yesterday for about a half hour and I was thinking man, I probably would have taken that main way around if I had realized it would do this. That’s it. They get you to because it’ll be a good road for about three miles, you know, or long enough that you’re like I don’t really want to turn around, and then it’ll kind of gradually creep in and creeping more slowly as I suppose less and less people have gone out as far as that to keep the road to well traveled and maintained but yeah, you get that, that the ruts of the tires then you get the center strip where you’re getting like a bunch of seedlings of trees, these evergreen trees that are growing up about two feet, three feet or so and they haven’t really been topped off or knocked over by other trucks go through maybe there’s I don’t know higher clearance vehicles that go through most of the time. But even in this truck, it’s still just gonna scrape it across the bottom of these tiny little seedlings that are all over the place. So I don’t know It’s okay, it’s okay kind of floating around but I think I made it around like 70 miles or so from the last place that I was camping and I’m now up in the hills at an area out by a big lake. Well, I think it’s a reservoir. And I think this area, there’s like kind of a natural depression it’s only a matter of 2025 feet lower, but I think what they’ve done is they’ve dammed up an area down from here and then I’ve created a reservoir up here I think to supply water to the town and farmland that’s down lower in elevation from here which is kind of cool. It’s interesting how it’s sort of laid out like this up here but I’ve been walking around up here for a little bit and I think I’m the only person up here in this area I think there’s a like a forest service campground that’s a little ways over it’s pretty undeveloped to there’s a I think there’s like I don’t think there’s running water there.

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But then there’s a boat ramp or something that’s about it and there’s signs that give me information really out here though it’s just it’s just undeveloped camping. But there’s a picnic table at the spot a map pretty big rock pile fireplace with a fire grate over it looks like it was a hunting camp up here.

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I see I see a couple log poles that are stretched across a tree it probably 12 feet and eight feet or so. I think that’s what they use when like in the fall when they start doing their when hunting season comes into effect and I think this area gets a little more flooded out with with people that are drawn tags to go mule deer hunting and I think if they if they fill their tag then they’ll use these poles to I guess like prep the meat as it as it get it back into camp but it’s a cool little camp it’s a big area too. It’s It was a swing to it was like a rope swing with a wood board at the bottom that you sit on you can swing around a pine tree up here a lot of pine trees wood as it lodgepole pine. So that was called I think that’s what I saw on a sign that said this is an experimental for us and they’re gonna test scenarios, you know regrowth of lodgepole pine I think I see what they’re talking about they’re just real straight real thin not a lot of curvatures and stuff so I figure like what they do is all right like a lot of the the I don’t know why are your poles that we see here are from trees like this pretty exciting. Wow paint I’ve been walking around out here it’s still a good bit of trees in this area but a little bit further out for me like I was saying is that lake bed but it’s really dry right now there’s kind of like a creek flowing through part of the center of it. I’m sure they probably fill it up in the winter time. I got to remember it’s August two and if I remember right, it wasn’t a heavy rain year. Is it true? It seemed really rainy this winter but if I remember them talking about the watershed, they’re still talking about how it’s sort of a drought year again. Take a sip of my cold coffee that I made up earlier. I got my aeropress hat with me and then I picked up another jet boy Have you had one years ago. Jet bows are like one of the best camping inventions that have been around for a while if you don’t have a good portable stove and you’re going out a lot it really makes things a lot easier and a lot more comfortable but I’ve gone without making a fire anytime this year than in the summertime out here I keep seeing signs as I’ve kind of learned in the past to that during fire season there’s there’s really like no no good way or at least no legal way to have an open fire pit you know like a rock pit with some logs in it I think is frowned upon up here I think we’ve had a lot of forest fires and stuff up here from from stuff like that but but yeah, I’ve really kind of tried to avoid making campfires before circumstances where I feel like I’d really need it in the wintertime I have more fun with that sort of stuff but what I’ve noticed the most with with camping for multiple days and setting up camp fires is that is that you really get sweaty and you get dirty a lot faster Your clothes are kind of impregnated with the smell of like a wet smoke and stuff in the and I’ve not really appreciated the way I feel with that. So So yeah, I’ve kind of found that by doing just a couple lighter things and also by following the fire regulation rules. I can kind of stay a little bit more comfortable while I’m out camping and stuff so I’m not really in the back country I’m not doing like a big, big expedition hike backpacking deep into the wilderness or anything, I’ve got my truck here, I’ve got a cooler, I’ve got a stove and all that stuff but then even when I’m out camping or backpack and stuff, the Jetboil is just like it’s a pound or glass or so I know it’s great. It’s just an easy thing to carry and, and, and travel around with. So yeah, lit it up this morning, made my coffee I got my arrow press with me, which I think is probably my preferred camping coffee making method. If you haven’t had an arrow press, it’s probably one of the the easier and

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I don’t know it’s been it’s been fine to make a single cup of coffee. Now if you got like four people and you want a lot of coffee the same time. And that’d be a great solution. It’s pretty tough. You can kind of do one cup of coffee at a time for me out here. It works great. You can throw in a scoop it’s kind of like plastic. I think it’s made by aerobie you know that you know when you were in elementary school and you play frisbee, it was like an arrow B frisbee they make like frisbees, I think they’re like a plastics company and they try and find different uses for these plastics that they’re creating. So I guess in some high temperature plastic and it’s a coffeemaker Wow. So you get these little filters you throw them in you can probably look it up online to figure out what an aeropress is But yeah, I filled up my coffee and stuff and made my cup and my camping cup and threw some half and half in there that I had it in the cooler and it’s already it’s already cold so it’s okay but other camping tools that I found super useful was like saying I don’t really have a heater or I don’t have a fireplace that I’m using or you know like a fire ring or I’m not bringing wood with me through this time here but what I did pick up is is just like a portable propane heater. I’ve seen these used by a couple other people before but it’s sort of the size of a briefcase or so and it’s it takes one of those this portable green propane pans you can pick up for three or four bucks at a store and you throw that in there yeah light the pilot light and then it’s got this like ceramic pad that throws off heat so it’s great to have and that’s really like my fireplace replacement as exciting as that sounds but it’s pretty safe working really well been really stable and easy to use but yeah I got my tailgate down and I’ve got that like heater going in at night it’s a it’s about as good as a fire you know you don’t have any of the the exhaust or the smoke or stuff coming off of it. So it’s a nice clean heat source and stuff and it’s fun to if you want to move you’re like oh, you know, I like my camp. But let’s walk out over here like what I did last night is I shut the heater off while I was after I made dinner and I sit at my truck and then I walked out probably about 100 yards into that open area as you get near the edge of the lake bed. And then I sat down over there and then kick the heater on again. Boom. I’m set up and hanging out and warm and yeah, it gets cold up here at night. Really I think the last last couple of days have been kind of chilly well at least like yesterday was pretty cold for I don’t know a day in August. You think it’d be you think it’d be a hot one but but yeah, it was pretty pretty cool. Yesterday, I think it was probably like 73 degrees as a high It was really comfortable or I appreciated that as opposed to the heat like I was I was knocked out by the heat. I think it was like around 100 when I was out in the john de area a few weeks back and man Yeah, it was just wiped out but that but it was 100 degrees. I’m driving around my truck with the windows down and I have AC in this thing. Just like I have this mask right? It’s a gator. Yeah, everybody’s got a mask nowadays. So I’ve got one of these gators, and I would just constantly be like dunking that in ice water. And then like using that to cool off but man Yeah, throwing that around your neck when it’s covered in ice water is a great way to cool off anything that was you know, like some, I don’t know some some like gimmicky product back in the early 2000s was something like that where you you’d fill up like some something wrapped around your neck and it had ice cubes and water in it. You go on a walk and stay cool in the summer. Now that’s super cool coffee. But yeah, having this heater out here has been great going out to anywhere you want setting up a chair, set up a heater, it’s a pretty comfortable way to do some stuff and it works well for doing some photo stuff too because you can just kind of take off from where you’re at, take a camera bag, take this little heater and then set up your tripod sit down set it became a staff get your shots ready for like that evening time. Because you can sit there pretty comfortably and just you know stay warm and stay pretty comfortable and I wouldn’t really take it too far out you know if I was if I was traveling pretty far, but if it’s if it’s just kind of like a short, short little jaunt down to about where I’m fishing or where I’m gonna be taking some photos. It seems like it’s been working pretty good for that sort of stuff, but But yeah, kind of fun. Having a A couple of things around brought to bear a few other things, but I don’t know, I’ll probably get into the other camp stuff later. It’s been pretty smooth though, keep it out here and traveling around I’ve been trying to do some more rockhounding stuff. I was learning about some of the privileges that you have on public lands to do rock counting, it’s cool you can look this up yourselves too but but I think there’s

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like rock counting. It’s like the hobby of going around and collecting interesting rocks that you find you know out while you’re traveling around and so legally you still get to pick those things up from public land areas, unless there’s some specific restriction in that area. But But yeah, you can go around and do rock counting all you want so i think it’s it’s most common stones that you can you can just pick up with no, or you know, just you’re right on public land to pick up the Roxy compact. So it’s been kind of cool going around and picking up appearances in a bunch of city and in raw form and stuff, which is pretty cool. coming across some Jasper’s some agate supports some petrified wood. That’s been cool. I think last week, I found a chunk of petrified wood when I was walking around and I thought, Hey, nice, cool like this. And there’s some areas in Oregon, where there’s more of that than than others. I think it was part of part of the land development of how I guess how much wood would have been trapped quickly under mud Is that what it is, I don’t know, there’s some there’s some like specific process of how petrified wood gets created from really old trees. And you know how that that mineral change happened. So I was learning about agate to agates from wood. Also, I didn’t really understand this, I think agates from when, when a piece of wood is buried in lava from a volcanic flow. someone that knows about rocks really would probably be able to tell me more quickly. But I think from something I was understanding recently, if you don’t listen to it, check out the meat eater podcast is a bunch of really good stuff on there. I think it’s hosted by Steve rinella. And they normally have like some really good guests on to talk about. Most of the time, it’s through the focus through the lens of like hunting trips and stuff. But really, I’ve learned so much about like outdoors outdoor management.

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And then you know, including stuff like this, like rock counting and geology and all sorts of like intersectional ideas that are about the outdoors and outdoorsmen ship. So really appreciated kind of some of the things I’ve learned from that. But one of the things that learned from that from an episode I think maybe back in early May was about some rock counting stuff that they were doing where they were going out looking for agate. And I think they were out in the Yellowstone valley where they were looking for agate, one of the things that they explained is from from one of the the old Yellowstone eruptions, there was a flow of magma that covered a forest or you know a lot of trees. And then what would happen is that once that wood was encased in magma, the wood the carbon would would burn away, and then it would leave a pocket where that wood had been. And then over a long amount of time, water groundwater would seep into that pocket, and then evaporate out. But as it would seep in, it would bring a certain set of minerals in it. And then as that mineral deposit would build, it would build an agate. And that’s how you get these agate stones. I have this one at home. That’s this, it looks like it looks like an onion almost or like if you’ve ever seen the cross section of a really big piece of hail. It’s sort of like that, where it’s got all these different layers to it that have been created at different times at different stages as it developed. But it’s pretty cool that Yeah, going around and try and find some agate. And really cool stuff are really really cool colors really cool. Like, just the clarity of some of them is awesome. It’s really cool. I think a little further out from here. You can start finding opal, which is cool. I don’t think I’ve really found a lot of opal. I’ve heard a lot about that. And I think I think it’s more common and more popular like out in Nevada, I think like north western Nevada is pretty common for finding opal, or deposits of opal rocks in that area. And that’s sort of similar to an agate at least and look have that kind of clear crystal Lee look of a rock which is always fun to find. But I’ve been traveling around up here, and it’s got a high country up here. But I’ve been traveling around and yeah, trying to do some rock counting stuff, trying to pick up some different things and you really can find a lot if you’re keeping your eyes to the ground and picking up pieces and chips and chunks of different rocks and stuff and you kind of collect through them and see what you got and what you want to keep and stuff but as I was understanding The rules are rock counting, you can get into I think it’s 25 pounds of rock a day from BLM land across Oregon and I believe it’s 10 pounds of rock per day from national forest land really that’s a lot of rock also in addition to that you can pick up 125 pound or more specific specimen from I think each location so like if you find like one big rock that’s 50 pounds or 30 pounds or something like that you can you can take that rock as well and not be in violation of your rockhounding picking limits pretty pretty fun but it’s cool Yeah, you can go around and pick up a lot of stuff and I think it’s with a maximum of 250 pounds collected from each each property management location through a year so you can pick up 250 pounds of rocks over the course of a year and I think you can’t do that in a day I suppose. Some of the information sort of sort of states both things so I’m not really sure which one it is but from what I understood from from looking at the National Forest Service website I think there’s some information about rockhounding in Oregon and and some of the areas that I was going to be I was 25 pounds a day on BLM 10 pounds a day on national forest land at night and yeah, that’s cool that’s a lot you can also go around and pick up firewood which I didn’t really know about you need like a permit in some circumstances if you’re trying to collect it commercially. But if you’re collecting it for private personal use even just like home use there’s a lot of wood that you can pick up from managed public lands some of them I think there’s like some specific areas where they want you to be doing that and some specific areas where they don’t want you to be doing that.

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I think if it’s well I’m not sure not all downed would but I think if if if it’s down and it’s collectible I think you can collect that in a lot of areas so yeah, I went through like in the springtime I went through an area of BLM land and I filled up my truck with with a bunch of logs that had been taken down and I think stacked up in an area and yeah I just loaded up my truck and I have firewood for a while you can get like a I think you can get it’s a limit similar to the rock counting server you can get like a couple cords of wood a year and collect that for personal home use I think if you’re trying to sell firewood then you have to go through the BLM or the Forest Service to get a permit for the area where you’re going to be doing wood cutting I’ve only just picked up down wood that you pick up kind of like for campfires that they’re like you know if you’re going around trying to pick up firewood for camp it’s kind of a similar process to that I’m not really like cutting down on fresh trees and aging them but but there’s there’s a qualification for that too You can go around and if it’s a specifically designated area for that kind of thing. You can go around and actually you know use a tool and cut down a tree and process it and take it home and cover up your stump or something like that and you know naturalize the stump that you cut but but yeah there’s there’s a lot of stuff you can do out on public land I wasn’t really quite quite aware of in every way but yeah it’s been cool being out here doing some rock counting stuff trying to find some some cool pieces really a lot of obsidian is what I’ve been finding which has been fun a lot of a lot of like volcanic rock stuff out here and some of them are cool you know but they’re not that like they’re not like a gem or anything it’s just like you know a basalt stone from a volcano. But it’s cool yeah these Rock County stuff has been pretty good you can check out more information at Billy Newman photo comm you can go to Billy Newman photo.com Ford slash support. If you want to help me out and participate in the value for value model that we’re running this podcast with. If you receive some value out of some of the stuff that I was talking about, you’re welcome to help me out and send some value my way through the portal at Billy Newman photo comm forward slash support you can also find more information there about Patreon and the way that I use it if you’re interested or feel more comfortable using Patreon that’s patreon.com forward slash Billy Newman photo

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couple updates with some of the stuff that I’ve been putting together you know I gotta get so I gotta get so tripod. It’s kind of cool. I don’t know if you guys know about that. There’s there’s a couple different tripod manufacturers seems to be the popular ones in the United States amongst the pro photography crowd. But I’m sure there’s lots of other stuff out there and I know you know, they go It gets hyped it gets hyped too much there’s a lot of stuff there’s a lot of stuff with three legs that works great for tripods but I was on Craigslist I was looking around as per reason I found this super good deal on this vintage gets out was this one built in France I think since then the the they moved to Italy. I think now they’re in Italian brand like you’ll say Made in Italy. These older ones it says Made in France think it’s like gets hopper name is a German guy. So it sounds like gets harbor. But yeah, it gets turned into gitzo as the tripod name when they started started doing that, but I got this weekend performance tripod, it’s this kind of silly, small travel tripod, I think it’s about 18 inches tall or so. And it’s got these these steel legs it’s got an extendable set of aluminum tubes that run out and it gets real flimsy like when you get it above waist height as a tripod. So it seems like it’ll be kind of an interesting sort of backup travel tripod but it’s real sturdy, or you know it’s real set it’s a good so it’s a good tripod, it’s well manufactured even though it’s you know 35 years old and I think it’s probably made in the early 80s and I bought it from this this old hobbyist photographer guy out here in Oregon I got it for a steal I was thinking that primarily that’s a big reason to pick it up is if I buy it for the price it’s listed that I could list it now and get more than that much money I could flip it and get you know a good return on the investment that I put into it I could hang out mess with the tripod for a week or two, put it up online have that thing sell and I could make more cash off of it than what I paid for it you know the cool thing also is I got this you know the setting gets a legs those are nice but with it and kind of the secret prize that might almost be worth more than that is I got this this leads lights like it’s that kind of side like a name and brand. You know there’s the Leica cameras but I guess a lot of their gear maybe even some of their other stuff is kind of sort of bought or half bought or bought out it was there’s two guys there’s like the like a guy and then there was this lead sky, this l le AI Tz guy. And they both kind of own like, so there’s sort of these these kind of confused names around some of the stuff but it’s this, this leads, ball hat, this tripod ball head and it’s really nice, it’s kind of this, this brushed aluminum finish on it, it’s got the ball head on the top with this wing that that swings closed to lock to lock your tripod wherever you put it, but it looks like a really tight, nice little full tripod setup. especially great for a traveler or someone that was shooting with a light film set up it would be awesome. So I know it’s a little bit of the away from the direction that I’ve been moving with some of the photography equipment I’ve been procuring recently, but it feels kind of good, it’s cool, having a vintage gets a tripod around and it feels good to you that I could sell it or I could make some bucks back from it if I needed to. But it’s kind of fun having that second tripod around I’ve been trying to think of more more long exposure more fine art landscape stuff. And you know I think maybe mentioned a minute ago in the US there’s like there’s two big tripod brands there’s there’s man Frodo, which is what I bought the last few times around. Right now I have a set of carbon fiber, what is it like the mag fiber set of legs for my man, my man photo tripod, and those are great, those are like the best tripod legs, they’re outstanding. And then I’ve got this photo head that goes on top of it, which is acceptable, but it’s got that three way locking head, I think I really want to get something a little simpler, more like a ball head or something. It’s just a little bit more flexible for some of my needs. But really, it’s just this quick release plate system that’s on top of the main photo. And it just really doesn’t seem to work for me all that much. I guess it does enough. It works as much as I use it probably more than that. Maybe I can just throw that like a ball head on there. Doesn’t seem to match up super well. But if I if I get a chance to I guess why not. So it’s kind of cool to mess around with that. I’ve been a fan of like the the gitzo tripod brand stuff for a long time. And I think it’s kind of kind of cool to mess around with that. But the way that they’re built it’s just super sturdy. It’s cool. Thanks a lot for checking out this episode of The Billy Newman photo podcast.

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